nucci Posted January 10, 2022 Share Posted January 10, 2022 6 minutes ago, Wayne Cubed said: Doubt that happens, the word is Watson wanted to go to Miami because of Flores. ahh, did not know that...but doesn't Ross want him? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJS Posted January 10, 2022 Share Posted January 10, 2022 (edited) 1 hour ago, Nitro said: The Dolphins draft poorly. That is on the GM. Three years and no playoffs will get a head coach fired. But some head coaches are more involved in drafting and bringing in personnel than others. Maybe Flores has been super vocal on the specific players he wanted and the GM can say "hey, I gave him the guys he wanted." Not sure, but it is plausible. Edited January 10, 2022 by MJS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nitro Posted January 10, 2022 Share Posted January 10, 2022 2 minutes ago, MJS said: But some head coaches are more involved in drafting and bringing in personnel than others. Maybe Flores has been super vocal on the specific players he wanted and the GM can say "hey, I have him the guys he wanted." Not sure, but it is plausible. I can not envision any coach pounding the table demanding Tua being drafted. He was damaged goods. We may never know. So good point by you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCOrange Posted January 10, 2022 Share Posted January 10, 2022 17 minutes ago, Greg S said: Nothing official but here in the NYC area their is speculation(media) that Judge may get the boot. Gettleman is definitely out. Yeah, I'd be surprised if Judge keeps his job. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted January 10, 2022 Share Posted January 10, 2022 20 hours ago, sullim4 said: The way Flores handled the Fitz/Tua situation last year is enough imo to show him the door. Tua is no franchise quarterback, but I think the flip flopping there killed any confidence he had. Wat? The Dolphins won 7 of their last 8. Tua looked pretty confident there. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted January 10, 2022 Author Share Posted January 10, 2022 15 minutes ago, Nitro said: The Dolphins draft poorly. That is on the GM. Three years and no playoffs will get a head coach fired. If the GM had drafted better they'd have made the playoffs. He has wasted a lot of high picks and Flores has done well to go 19-14 the last two years IMO. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheFunPolice Posted January 10, 2022 Share Posted January 10, 2022 1 minute ago, DCOrange said: Yeah, I'd be surprised if Judge keeps his job. Keeping Joe Judge would be so depressing for Giants fans. It's like "we're going to keep him until we fire him in the middle of next season." Just do it now. The guy is terrible. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
34-78-83 Posted January 10, 2022 Share Posted January 10, 2022 Maybe removing Flores allows the GM to pull in more of a scumbag coach who will be fine with bringing Watson (if all the 24 allegations are true) on board to the team? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CincyBillsFan Posted January 10, 2022 Share Posted January 10, 2022 1 minute ago, 34-78-83 said: Maybe removing Flores allows the GM to pull in more of a scumbag coach who will be fine with bringing Watson (if all the 24 allegations are true) on board to the team? Urban Meyer is available! 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eball Posted January 10, 2022 Share Posted January 10, 2022 Ok, so when Frazier leaves who is with me on them bringing in Flores for the D? 10 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheFunPolice Posted January 10, 2022 Share Posted January 10, 2022 15 minutes ago, Wayne Cubed said: Doubt that happens, the word is Watson wanted to go to Miami because of Flores. Plus, do any of these QBs think about going to and winning Super Bowls? All you hear is that guys like Rodgers and Watson want to join the stacked AFC divisions. Why not go/stay in the NFC where there are like 3 legitimately good teams? AFC West alone has 3 good teams if Rodgers goes to Denver, plus the Raiders are plucky. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nitro Posted January 10, 2022 Share Posted January 10, 2022 6 minutes ago, DCOrange said: Yeah, I'd be surprised if Judge keeps his job. His only defense is he had no QB after Jones went down. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wayne Cubed Posted January 10, 2022 Share Posted January 10, 2022 10 minutes ago, nucci said: ahh, did not know that...but doesn't Ross want him? I'm sure he did, because Flores did. Ross is also a massive Michigan fan. Got buildings named after him in Ann Arbour. Sooooo he might make a run at Harbaugh... again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nitro Posted January 10, 2022 Share Posted January 10, 2022 5 minutes ago, GunnerBill said: If the GM had drafted better they'd have made the playoffs. He has wasted a lot of high picks and Flores has done well to go 19-14 the last two years IMO. He coached his behind off and got the most out of the talent. Seems the GM has the ear of the owner Flores will not be unemployed for long. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Hindsight Posted January 10, 2022 Share Posted January 10, 2022 1 minute ago, Nitro said: His only defense is he had no QB after Jones went down. They ran a QB sneak yesterday on 3rd and 9. Their backups are that bad 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wayne Cubed Posted January 10, 2022 Share Posted January 10, 2022 1 minute ago, TheFunPolice said: Plus, do any of these QBs think about going to and winning Super Bowls? All you hear is that guys like Rodgers and Watson want to join the stacked AFC divisions. Why not go/stay in the NFC where there are like 3 legitimately good teams? AFC West alone has 3 good teams if Rodgers goes to Denver, plus the Raiders are plucky. Yea, Rodgers would be an idiot to leave the NFC North. Look at that division. Leave that to go to face Mahomes, Herbert and Carr??? Get out of here. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BarleyNY Posted January 10, 2022 Share Posted January 10, 2022 43 minutes ago, BarleyNY said: Tough to fire a coach that went 8-1 in his last nine games of the season. Such a turnaround from their 1-7 start. They have to give him another season to see if he can keep that momentum going. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Junction Posted January 10, 2022 Share Posted January 10, 2022 17 hours ago, Bangarang said: His scheme is vastly different to what McD runs so I wouldn’t count on it. Their schemes aren’t as different as they look on the surface. They’re philosophically very similar (limit big plays and force mistakes), especially with the backend where there’s a lot of disguised zone coverages. The big difference in the secondary is McD/Frazier use more robber and cover 3 than Fangio. Front seven is where the bigger differences are seen. Fangio likes to have 1-2 D linemen 2-gap and free up linebackers to make plays…. However, neither are big Blitzers and love to simulate A gap pressure with safeties and linebackers in 43 under and nickel. Fangio though tends to cater the front seven scheme to available personnel though, so he’d adapt if he had to. I think McD and Fangio could blend their defenses together pretty easily. I doubt that Fangio comes here though. It’s more likely that he latches on with an offensive HC to maintain autonomy, and he didn’t screw the pooch enough to need a career “reset”. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnBonhamRocks Posted January 10, 2022 Share Posted January 10, 2022 Any other defensive firings match our scheme for potential Frazier replacements? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ridgewaycynic2013 Posted January 10, 2022 Share Posted January 10, 2022 18 minutes ago, TheFunPolice said: Keeping Joe Judge would be so depressing for Giants fans. It's like "we're going to keep him until we fire him in the middle of next season." Just do it now. The guy is terrible. Just setting up extra Twinkies in the canteen. Judge won't be able to resist. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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