Boston Globe tough on Belichick

[ChronicAndKnuckles]

The Patriots achieved far more than what was expected of them prior to the season and I think the fans should be a little more thankful. Mac Jones has looked pretty good his rookie season and the defense is top notch. I don't think they'll go far in the post-seasom, but at least they have something to build on. Honestly, I hope they suffer a little more. 

2 minutes ago, Gugny said:

 

Flutie sucked.  That was an era of a wasted defense.  Comparing the Flutie Bills to any Belichick Patriots team is laughable. 

 

Flutie didn't "suck." He was just overhyped. Indeed the most polarizing figures in Bills history other than OJ.

[Generic_Bills_Fan]

6 minutes ago, ChronicAndKnuckles said:

The Patriots achieved far more than what was expected of them prior to the season and I think the fans should be a little more thankful. Mac Jones has looked pretty good his rookie season and the defense is top notch. I don't think they'll go far in the post-seasom, but at least they have something to build on. Honestly, I hope they suffer a little more. 

 

Flutie didn't "suck." He was just overhyped. Indeed the most polarizing figures in Bills history other than OJ.

I don’t think they did really…they had a good defense last year even with a few important Covid holdouts.  They were an average qb away from being a good not great team which is exactly what they are.  The whole pats hype train thing just doesn’t add up to me…idk how nfl analysts weren’t talking them up as an afc east competitor pre season.  7 win team missing some defensive standouts and with a starting qb that literally can’t throw the ball last season was about right results wise too.  Pats are exactly what I expected 

Edited December 29, 2021 by Generic_Bills_Fan

[Da webster guy]

36 minutes ago, MJS said:

That's just not true at all. If you win, you keep your job. If you lose, you lose your job. Whether or not you are entertaining, or a good interview, or have a sense of humor, or anything else is irrelevant. For a coach, it is only about winning. That's the only thing that will save their job.

 

All those things you said are literally the LEAST important thing about their job. Yeah, some coaches are more personable, and that's nice. Good for them. I like that McDermott answers questions and isn't a jerk to the media, but McDermott knows that being a nice guy in interviews is not his job and will never save his job. He knows it comes down to building a winning team and winning football games. Period.

 

As for Belichick? Yeah, I don't like him. His interviews are stupid. But I respect him as a winning coach, all cheating scandals aside. And he will have a job in New England, or for almost any other team in the NFL, for as long as he wants because of what he has accomplished on the field, regardless of his bad interviews.

Yeah you're missing my entire point, of course a head coach needs to win to keep his job.  This thread was about reporters being tough on Bill and I made the comment that he has zero social skills and more than one beat reporter has told Chris Brown it sucks dealing with the guy as your full time job.  

 

Some coaches win AND handle themselves off the field with charisma and a little humor, and it's more enjoyable for everyone.    That's all.  I think McD is pretty good in that regard (getting a little more loose as the years go on), Reid is the king, Arians too.  Here's a good link for Bruce https://www.azcardinals.com/video/the-best-of-bruce-arians-funniest-moments-of-2013-12396112

[Ghost_002!]

They did not have a good defense last year, their record indicated that and by the time their season was over they were so badly decimated with injuries. They were using safeties as LBs.

 

I know it's better to only pick out those certain posts and articles about the Patriots.

 

But overall the team is doing just fine after just two years..

 

Bills should have the more talented roster. They were building it while the Patriots still had Brady.

 

Just like when the pats were on top. The division should be the Bills until someone beats them out.

 

Edited December 29, 2021 by Ghost_002!

[Big Turk]

They simply got beat by a more talented team with a far better QB and except in a crazy weather game, the result would likely be the same 9 out of 10 times.

Edited December 29, 2021 by Big Turk

[Just in Atlanta]

Incredible 

 

They got beat by a better team with a significantly better QB

 

 

[JMF2006]

8 hours ago, Shaw66 said:

Wow.  Here's something the Globe said yesterday or today.

 

 

 

But he was a genius just 3 weeks ago

 

I guess his team got fat and lazy with the bye and dropped 2 straight

 

Or the reality....that they were beating some teams without their best players and Indy and the Bills are far superior teams

 

[RobbRiddick]

The guys on WGR said it best the other day - the Pats fans and media think they're the biggest character in the NFL movie and just assumed they'd dominate for another 20 years after Jones had a couple good games.

 

They need to realize that they're just another team now and will have good seasons and terrible seasons like everyone else. Like spoiled children who have never been told "no" they can't handle not being the best year in, year out. I'm interested to see how many of their fans stick around once they have a few losing seasons in a row. I think a lot of them will jump ship to the the Chiefs or whoever

[Utah John]

The Pats are a good, B+ team.  The Bills are an A team.  Belichick deserves credit, not praise, for pulling together a team that's as good as it is, including a long win streak with a rookie QB who lacks an above-average arm.  I think the Pats ran out of patsies and now have to play tough competition.  

[All_Pro_Bills]

57 minutes ago, Utah John said:

The Pats are a good, B+ team.  The Bills are an A team.  Belichick deserves credit, not praise, for pulling together a team that's as good as it is, including a long win streak with a rookie QB who lacks an above-average arm.  I think the Pats ran out of patsies and now have to play tough competition.  

Patriot fans need to accept that the Bills now have Josh Allen.  Super hero franchise QB.  A QB I wouldn't trade for any other QB right now.  If you wanted to genetically create a QB with superior physical ability, mental aptitude, toughness, emotions, and leadership skills you'd come up with Josh.  No amount of Belichik kryptonite was going to stop Superman on Sunday.  Surround him with a supporting cast of some very good offensive players (but still upgrade the o-line!) and its a lethal offensive group when it's working.  Add in a coaching staff and front office that hits more than it misses.  Add it all up to a worthy and potentially dominant adversary. 

That's what their fans will be looking at twice a year for the next 10 years.  So back at ya.  Deal with it.  We had to.  But that is over for us.  Going forward they'll be licking the white dog poop!

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Edited December 29, 2021 by All_Pro_Bills

[BuffaloBill]

10 hours ago, Shaw66 said:

Wow.  Here's something the Globe said yesterday or today.

 

 

Music to my ears.  They got lucky in Buffalo because the conditions played into their hands. At the same time, if Jackson makes that pick on JA we may have been discussing a different outcome in Foxboro. Buffalo was a little bit lucky on that play. 

6 hours ago, Gugny said:

 

Flutie sucked.  That was an era of a wasted defense.  Comparing the Flutie Bills to any Belichick Patriots team is laughable. 

 

 

Are you a Flutie fan?  

 

[CSBill]

What a strange world we live in, several TBD posters defending Bill B.

[Gugny]

6 hours ago, ChronicAndKnuckles said:

The Patriots achieved far more than what was expected of them prior to the season and I think the fans should be a little more thankful. Mac Jones has looked pretty good his rookie season and the defense is top notch. I don't think they'll go far in the post-seasom, but at least they have something to build on. Honestly, I hope they suffer a little more. 

 

Flutie didn't "suck." He was just overhyped. Indeed the most polarizing figures in Bills history other than OJ.

 

We can agree to disagree.

 

I know that his patented 55-step drop-back, running around in circles, then scrambling for a 1-yard gain excited a lot of people.

 

Me?  I thought he sucked.

[Greg S]

[HOUSE]

Oh, I see the Bills were lucky to catch the Patriots defense napping....Typical Boston BS

[Doc]

6 hours ago, JayBaller10 said:

Arguably the greatest QB in the history of the game will mask a lot of the HC’s deficiencies. Belichick is possibly the greatest defensive coordinator the league has ever seen, so it was a match made in heaven. But make no mistake, had Brady been drafted by another team, there would be NO talk of Belichick being the greatest HC ever.
He owes 75-80% of his credit to Brady, that was the guy who was actually on the field making clutch throws in tight Super Bowl after tight Super Bowl.

 

Yup, been saying he's the greatest defensive mind in NFL history.  And had Brady to be the offensive mind.  

 

6 hours ago, Gugny said:

Flutie sucked.  That was an era of a wasted defense.  Comparing the Flutie Bills to any Belichick Patriots team is laughable. 

 

He was a gimmick that the NFL figured out within the span of a season's worth of games.  Plus he was near the end of his career when he returned to the NFL.

[Ghost_002!]

2 hours ago, RobbRiddick said:

The guys on WGR said it best the other day - the Pats fans and media think they're the biggest character in the NFL movie and just assumed they'd dominate for another 20 years after Jones had a couple good games.

 

They need to realize that they're just another team now and will have good seasons and terrible seasons like everyone else. Like spoiled children who have never been told "no" they can't handle not being the best year in, year out. I'm interested to see how many of their fans stick around once they have a few losing seasons in a row. I think a lot of them will jump ship to the the Chiefs or whoever

 

 

Sounds like your post and local radio station is generalizing alot here.

 

 

[RobbRiddick]

3 minutes ago, Ghost_002! said:

 

 

Sounds like your post and local radio station is generalizing alot here.

 

 

 

I'm sure you're one of the super loyal Pats fans

[clayboy54]

3 hours ago, RobbRiddick said:

The guys on WGR said it best the other day -

Since when have the guys on WGR ever said anything "best?" They're all a bunch of whiney fools.

[Hapless Bills Fan]

12 hours ago, Shaw66 said:

Wow.  Here's something the Globe said yesterday or today.

 

 

 

NE sports media and the Patriots have been a "chicken little" bunch for years.  The idea that "Belichick deserves to be put under a microscope, because his team is falling apart in December for the second straight year." when he's trying to adapt and adjust to the loss of a first-ballot HOF QB is preposterous.

 

Last year he was dealing with a bunch of opt-outs and limited cap space.  This year he's dealing with a rookie QB who is learning the game. 

 

Those guys are spoilt, spoilt rotten I tell ya.

 

Microscope, phoooie