Adam Posted May 3, 2005 Share Posted May 3, 2005 What happened in Oklahoma is typical ESPN turning race into a storyline- yes a storyline. I think Vince McMahon runs ESPN now. I dont condone use of that language, but they saw another opportunity, just like when Rush Limbaugh made that comment last year (What was he doing on that show to begin with). A casual conversion in private, and they turn it into news. Anything for a buck ESPN, anything for a story. A guy with a crystal clear record ruined in 1 night, just so ESPN can afford to put another pepi machine in the newsroom. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Like A Mofo Posted May 3, 2005 Share Posted May 3, 2005 What happened in Oklahoma is typical ESPN turning race into a storyline- yes a storyline. I think Vince McMahon runs ESPN now. I dont condone use of that language, but they saw another opportunity, just like when Rush Limbaugh made that comment last year (What was he doing on that show to begin with). A casual conversion in private, and they turn it into news. Anything for a buck ESPN, anything for a story. A guy with a crystal clear record ruined in 1 night, just so ESPN can afford to put another pepi machine in the newsroom. 326509[/snapback] Glad someone here sees the light about that crap station Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OnTheRocks Posted May 3, 2005 Share Posted May 3, 2005 What happened in Oklahoma is typical ESPN turning race into a storyline- yes a storyline. I think Vince McMahon runs ESPN now. I dont condone use of that language, but they saw another opportunity, just like when Rush Limbaugh made that comment last year (What was he doing on that show to begin with). A casual conversion in private, and they turn it into news. Anything for a buck ESPN, anything for a story. A guy with a crystal clear record ruined in 1 night, just so ESPN can afford to put another pepi machine in the newsroom. 326509[/snapback] i despise ESPN. it has gotten to the point that the only time i have that network on is when my favorite Baseball team happens to be on, and when they have an NFL game on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill from NYC Posted May 3, 2005 Share Posted May 3, 2005 What happened in Oklahoma is typical ESPN turning race into a storyline- yes a storyline. I think Vince McMahon runs ESPN now. I dont condone use of that language, but they saw another opportunity, just like when Rush Limbaugh made that comment last year (What was he doing on that show to begin with). A casual conversion in private, and they turn it into news. Anything for a buck ESPN, anything for a story. A guy with a crystal clear record ruined in 1 night, just so ESPN can afford to put another pepi machine in the newsroom. 326509[/snapback] What happened? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curse Of Rusty Jones Posted May 3, 2005 Share Posted May 3, 2005 i despise ESPN. it has gotten to the point that the only time i have that network on is when my favorite Baseball team happens to be on, and when they have an NFL game on. 326516[/snapback] ESPN is now like MTV, they both have lost interest in covering what their stations were made to do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark VI Posted May 3, 2005 Share Posted May 3, 2005 What happened? 326609[/snapback] http://www.boston.com/dailynews/122/sports...ason_bef:.shtml I realize he said it off-camera. Still isn't a bright move in this hypersensative PC world. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted May 3, 2005 Share Posted May 3, 2005 I love this country. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Plastic Cup Posted May 3, 2005 Share Posted May 3, 2005 So the guy's career is ruined for speaking a single word? Gee, I'm so glad that the PC forces are out there teaching us how to be "tolerant" of one another. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RuntheDamnBall Posted May 3, 2005 Share Posted May 3, 2005 So the guy's career is ruined for speaking a single word? Gee, I'm so glad that the PC forces are out there teaching us how to be "tolerant" of one another. 326756[/snapback] Your argument doesn't hold any weight. I'm sure people are tolerant of this coach as a white man. They don't have to be tolerant of his actions. I think most people know what that word means out of the mouth of a white person, and I'm sure you do, too. It was at the very least stupid for him to use it, and it rightly made him look stupid. What the hell does race have to do with this, anyway? He could have just said "some players are idiots, my players are smart" and it would have meant the same thing he meant to say. I wouldn't want my kids playing for a guy who said stuff like this, and I would want them to call him out on it and refuse to play if he did. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alaska Darin Posted May 3, 2005 Share Posted May 3, 2005 There are times when PC is OK. This is one of them - IMHO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Plastic Cup Posted May 3, 2005 Share Posted May 3, 2005 Your argument doesn't hold any weight. I'm sure people are tolerant of this coach as a white man. They don't have to be tolerant of his actions. I think most people know what that word means out of the mouth of a white person, and I'm sure you do, too. It was at the very least stupid for him to use it, and it rightly made him look stupid. What the hell does race have to do with this, anyway? He could have just said "some players are idiots, my players are smart" and it would have meant the same thing he meant to say. I wouldn't want my kids playing for a guy who said stuff like this, and I would want them to call him out on it and refuse to play if he did. 326829[/snapback] My argument that a guy doesn't deserve to have his entire career ruined over one stupid comment doesn't hold any weight? On what planet? Wouldn't a two game suspension been sufficient here? Hasn't everyone pretty much agreed by now that trashing Al Campanis' career over his infamous Nightline interview was an overreaction? Once again, the left shows the true meaning of 'tolerance' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alaska Darin Posted May 3, 2005 Share Posted May 3, 2005 My argument that a guy doesn't deserve to have his entire career ruined over one stupid comment doesn't hold any weight? On what planet? Wouldn't a two game suspension been sufficient here? Hasn't everyone pretty much agreed by now that trashing Al Campanis' career over his infamous Nightline interview was an overreaction? Once again, the left shows the true meaning of 'tolerance' 327068[/snapback] Seriously, I doubt this was the only time this particular gentleman has used that phrase - it's more likely that it's the first time he got caught. I'm about as un-PC as anyone but there are certain positions in society that are subject to much closer scrutiny and this guy was holding one of them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RuntheDamnBall Posted May 3, 2005 Share Posted May 3, 2005 My argument that a guy doesn't deserve to have his entire career ruined over one stupid comment doesn't hold any weight? On what planet? Wouldn't a two game suspension been sufficient here? Hasn't everyone pretty much agreed by now that trashing Al Campanis' career over his infamous Nightline interview was an overreaction? Once again, the left shows the true meaning of 'tolerance' 327068[/snapback] No, your argument about tolerance doesn't hold any weight, sorry if that wasn't clear. If the guy's career is ruined, he ruined it with his mouth. Nobody else did that for him. My point is, how can the definition of 'tolerance' include the use of the "N-word," which by its very nature is an instrument of intolerance? I've said everything else I wanted to say about this already. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted May 3, 2005 Share Posted May 3, 2005 No, your argument about tolerance doesn't hold any weight, sorry if that wasn't clear. If the guy's career is ruined, he ruined it with his mouth. Nobody else did that for him. My point is, how can the definition of 'tolerance' include the use of the "N-word," which by its very nature is an instrument of intolerance? I've said everything else I wanted to say about this already. 327084[/snapback] Free speech, baby. It's the same set of rights that allows arseholes like Farrakhan and Sharpton to speak out against whitey. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Plastic Cup Posted May 3, 2005 Share Posted May 3, 2005 Free speech, baby. It's the same set of rights that allows arseholes like Farrakhan and Sharpton to speak out against whitey. 327097[/snapback] Oh come on, they are just expressing the frustration inherent in the black experience in America. No intolerance there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RuntheDamnBall Posted May 3, 2005 Share Posted May 3, 2005 Free speech, baby. It's the same set of rights that allows arseholes like Farrakhan and Sharpton to speak out against whitey. 327097[/snapback] And where are they in the public eye? Neither has a very favorable public opinion. And neither is employed by an educational institution as a coach. The guy was free to say what he said, and he is free to pay for it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alaska Darin Posted May 3, 2005 Share Posted May 3, 2005 I'm having a hard time understanding the defense of this guy by parading losers like LF, AS, and JJ as examples. Not a strong argument. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Plastic Cup Posted May 3, 2005 Share Posted May 3, 2005 Seriously, I doubt this was the only time this particular gentleman has used that phrase - it's more likely that it's the first time he got caught. I'm about as un-PC as anyone but there are certain positions in society that are subject to much closer scrutiny and this guy was holding one of them. 327074[/snapback] Clearly he should have kept his mouth shut, but I can understand what he was trying to say, which was that 'ni---r' is a term to describe a subset of people who are scumbags, and shouldn't be intended as an insult to all blacks (even though many people would say that it is). I get his point, but what I find silly is that as soon as the PC crowd hears the "N-word" come out of someone's mouth, they ignore whatever context it was used in and rush to string up the offender. I just think it should take a little more than an un-PC comment to trash someone's career, even if he was an idiot for saying it and should have known better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted May 3, 2005 Share Posted May 3, 2005 I just think the whole thing is ridiculous. It's a word. An insult, but a word nonetheless and it gains more power the more taboo it is. No one should lose a job over it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RuntheDamnBall Posted May 3, 2005 Share Posted May 3, 2005 Clearly he should have kept his mouth shut, but I can understand what he was trying to say, which was that 'ni---r' is a term to describe a subset of people who are scumbags, and shouldn't be intended as an insult to all blacks (even though many people would say that it is). I get his point, but what I find silly is that as soon as the PC crowd hears the "N-word" come out of someone's mouth, they ignore whatever context it was used in and rush to string up the offender. I just think it should take a little more than an un-PC comment to trash someone's career, even if he was an idiot for saying it and should have known better. 327121[/snapback] It was not the worst context in which the word has been used. That doesn't make it a good one. I just think given its history it should be deleted from the vocabulary. It serves no good purpose. Whatever the context of the word, it will always have a certain ugly subtext. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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