BILLieve85 Posted December 27, 2021 Posted December 27, 2021 1 minute ago, Buffalo Barbarian said: Did you read the game threads today ? Has nothing to do with that. We need another guard. JA17 is great. He will make any slot guy look great. Please do not fall for your nonsense 1 1 Quote
Mango Posted December 27, 2021 Posted December 27, 2021 I think after Cole being so vocal this year and bringing more guys with him like Davis, this staff will work to reward somebody like McKenzie who got his shot early in camp, and balled when Beasley bailed on his teammates. People have been ripping on Sanders all year. Rightfully so. But as long as your WR2 and WR3 are at risk of missing 10 days minimum at a time, you have to keep bringing in guys like Sanders to mitigate the risks. It paid off today. 1 1 Quote
Saxum Posted December 27, 2021 Posted December 27, 2021 19 minutes ago, Buffalo Barbarian said: So sick of fans saying we should get rid of Beasley and keep McKenzie. Here is an idea , keep them both and play them at the same time on some plays. Why get rid of a good player when you can get rid of the worst player on the team, when the offseason comes. And this goes for all positions. Cole and McKenzie play different positions. Cole plays inside and pariah; McKenzie plays outside and distraction. 1 2 Quote
pennstate10 Posted December 27, 2021 Posted December 27, 2021 12 minutes ago, Buffalo Barbarian said: Get rid of somebody else, you dont get rid of a pretty good player because another is better after the catch. Beasley has come up big for us and gotten many first downs. Id get rid of Stevenson before Beasley. Yawn Beasley still has reliable hands and gets separation in zone. but he’s lost a step or two, doesn’t separate consistently in man, has become a team nuisance, and costs about 5x as much as mckittrick. NFL cap is a zero sum game. You can’t have everything you want. 2 Quote
Saxum Posted December 27, 2021 Posted December 27, 2021 After Bills-Dallas Thanksgiving game teams started paying attention to Cole more. Now teams will pay attention to McKenzie more. 1 1 Quote
FireChans Posted December 27, 2021 Posted December 27, 2021 8 minutes ago, 716er said: 33 year old back-up slot receiver ain't worth a $7.6 million cap hit. He’s not the backup because one dude had one good game. 2 Quote
716er Posted December 27, 2021 Posted December 27, 2021 Just now, FireChans said: He’s not the backup because one dude had one good game. In 2022 Cole shouldn't be penciled in as a starter. 2 Quote
FireChans Posted December 27, 2021 Posted December 27, 2021 1 minute ago, 716er said: In 2022 Cole shouldn't be penciled in as a starter. Should he be pencilled in as the backup? no. Quote
Andy1 Posted December 27, 2021 Posted December 27, 2021 I’m all for keeping Beasley if he is a positive influence on the team and if it works financially. I trust Bean and Mc D as they know more than any of us. Quote
billsbackto81 Posted December 27, 2021 Posted December 27, 2021 Isaiah really showed me something today. He's not as shifty in the slot as Beasley but his separation and speed create more YAC than Cole. 1 1 Quote
BILLieve85 Posted December 27, 2021 Posted December 27, 2021 16 minutes ago, Buffalo Barbarian said: Did you read the game threads today ? So how much do you resign McKenzie for. What’s your offer? Quote
BillsFanForever19 Posted December 27, 2021 Posted December 27, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, Buffalo Barbarian said: So sick of fans saying we should get rid of Beasley and keep McKenzie. Here is an idea , keep them both and play them at the same time on some plays. Why get rid of a good player when you can get rid of the worst player on the team, when the offseason comes. And this goes for all positions. Why? Because he's getting old, beat up, and has been largely ineffective this season. Not to mention his being fined 6 digits for habitually not following league rules (which could have contributed to other issues with this team) and continues to be a giant distraction, going out of his way to publicly feed the media fodder. When we needed him the most, his "personal choice" made him unavailable to us. But, MOST importantly, as opposed to this season where it would cost us more to cut him than keep him, we would save $6.1 million dollars in cap space by releasing him next season. When you need a lot of help at other positions and guys need to be cut to make cap space - he seems a no brainer. Especially when you're getting the production we're getting out of Diggs and Davis and Sanders and McKenzie are both free agents. Of which, you can pay both (or their replacements) less than that $6.1 million and have more left over for other positions that are less stacked. Would you rather have Cole Beasley or McKenzie and Sanders plus more? Again, no brainer. Edited December 27, 2021 by BillsFanForever19 1 2 Quote
BigAl2526 Posted December 27, 2021 Posted December 27, 2021 I don't have a particular desire to be rid of Beasley, but the reality is he's an older player, and the older he gets the more unfavorable the cost - benefit ratio becomes, unless he's willing to accept a very team friendly deal the next time around. That means a shorter contract for fewer dollars, and less money tied up in bonuses. Quote
SirAndrew Posted December 27, 2021 Posted December 27, 2021 14 minutes ago, 716er said: 33 year old back-up slot receiver ain't worth a $7.6 million cap hit. You also have to assume that a small receiver might start breaking down very quickly at 33 years old. I’ve loved what Beasley has done with us, but he’s not a guy I envision playing into his late 30’s. Paying him could be a mistake based solely on that. 1 Quote
McBean Posted December 27, 2021 Posted December 27, 2021 I know one thing. Isaiah McKenzie better never leave the field again when healthy. He’s a beast and we finally unleashed the kid today. Playmaker. Lightning in a bottle. Speed. He’s a serious weapon and HAS to be on the field from Now on. No excuses…looking at you McDermott. 1 1 Quote
oldmanfan Posted December 27, 2021 Posted December 27, 2021 Bill Walsh used to say you’d rather release a guy a year too early vs. a year too late. May be applicable to Beasley. 2 Quote
Ray Stonada Posted December 27, 2021 Posted December 27, 2021 Josh Allen today: “We can't look at what made us go in the past. We have to figure out what makes us go in the future and [McKenzie] was an absolute beast on the field.” 3 1 Quote
Andy1 Posted December 27, 2021 Posted December 27, 2021 41 minutes ago, oldmanfan said: Bill Walsh used to say you’d rather release a guy a year too early vs. a year too late. May be applicable to Beasley. I think that may be the scenario this off season. McKenzies stock is rising. Beasley is declining. Then consider the off the field stuff… 1 2 Quote
SCBills Posted December 27, 2021 Posted December 27, 2021 Due to Beasley’s age (and cap constraints), I think you’ve got to move on after the season and sign McKenzie to a multi-year deal. Very different players, but both play the same position. I love Cole, and what he’s meant to this team, and Josh Allen’s development.. but McKenzie is younger and has some serious dynamic ability in our offense. 1 Quote
Since1981 Posted December 27, 2021 Posted December 27, 2021 (edited) It’s all Josh folks and some Diggs I great QB can make any WR look a step better than they are (both bees and McKenzie) Edited December 27, 2021 by Since1981 1 Quote
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