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2 hours ago, Scott7975 said:

 

I think you are making the same mistake many a Bills fan, including myself, have made with their QBs.  They show a little promise so we think its just a matter of growing and getting more help.  I just don't see anything more than a game manager in Jones.  He is a young Fitzpatrick IMO.  Good enough to win some games and keep the fans and the team interested but not good enough to win it all without the 85 Bears defense.

 

I mean I could be wrong but I don't think so.

Fitzpatrick has moxie. 

 

Jones is Drew Bledsoe with a noodle arm. Maybe a little more mobility. Not much. 

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1 minute ago, May Day 10 said:

Hey, just wanted to check if Jackson dropped an interception?  Didn't see it posted

That's what I'm saying those are the breaks of the game, I mean if Diggs doesn't drop that touchdown in the first game we sweep the Patsy's this year. I have no idea why the pats fan keeps bringing the drop up. Dude dropped it same as Levi did in the endzone, that's life in the NFL. The better team clearly won today dropped int or not.

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Posted
2 hours ago, Bob in STL said:

He is nothing like Fitz because he doesn't gun-sling the football.  
 

That said, in the safe cocoon of the Pats* organization he is a decent game manager.  He does not make a lot of mistakes, he makes the easy throws.  
 

He plays like a Tyrod Taylor type of player, maybe a Ryan Tannehill at his highest level.  

Disagree.  Fitz was good because he was smart.  He understood every offense and read the defense well.  What he lacked was arm strength.  Mac is smart and understands the Pats offense and what they are asking from him.  What he lacks is arm strength.  

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Posted
44 minutes ago, HappyDays said:

 

Yes, and they were wrong. The one thing you want to see from a rookie QB is improvement as the year goes on. I haven't seen that from Jones. The last two games were two of his worst this season. The comparison I would use is Joe Burrow. Burrow also came into the league with a middling athletic profile. But he showed off that lethal accuracy last year and improved his decision making as the year went on until his unfortunate injury. Jones is kind of the same guy he was on day one. He is already a decent game manager which is commendable... I just don't see the upside to move beyond that.

I'm not disagreeing with you. Comparing Burrows to Jones isn't really fair though. Burrows by all accounts and hands down was and is a much much better QB. 

 

Secondly, my point is what do you expect Pats fans to say? Of course, they are going to be hopeful and see the positive things in Jones. The Pats fan summed it up pretty well. 

Posted
2 hours ago, Ghost_002! said:

 

 

No there isn't. Pats fans are not envious of the bills QB in anyway. Good job on the win. They split. Cool with me.

Why aren't any Pats fans envious of the QB in anyway? 

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4 minutes ago, BillzFreak said:

That's what I'm saying those are the breaks of the game, I mean if Diggs doesn't drop that touchdown in the first game we sweep the Patsy's this year. I have no idea why the pats fan keeps bringing the drop up. Dude dropped it same as Levi did in the endzone, that's life in the NFL. The better team clearly won today dropped int or not.

 

If I had a dollar for every time I sat there after a Patriots game on a Sunday night making myself feel better by telling myself that the bills really could have won it if Whitner held onto the interception, or if they called Brady for grounding the one time,  or if McKelvin didn't fumble, or if Donald Jones didn't drop it, etc... I could probably buy a video game

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Posted
1 hour ago, PatsFanNH said:

Bills. Got gashed by Harris a lot this game. (Over 108 yards 3 TD’s and 5.7 yards a carry)  It hurt not having Stevenson (the 2nd back) not saying it changes the outcome because the Pats D couldn’t stop Allen & Co.

 

I agree to early tell if Jones be good , bad. Or great. I think for a rookie year where you put your team in a spot to tie or take the lead late in the fourth if your D makes one stop in every loss is pretty good for a rookie.  (Fumble by Harris, missed FG, D unable stop Dac with 35 seconds, down by 8 to NO, 22-17 to Indy, and today 26-21.) My point is right now he doesn’t seem to poop himself when it’s pressure time in the fourth. 

 

This is why having a strong run game doesnt mean much unless the defense is the 85 bears.  As soon as you come up against an offense that can score, the running game means nothing.  You guys literally killed your own clock with 7+ minute drives.

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Posted
3 hours ago, PatsFanNH said:

I disagree with you there. He is a rookie who has to adapt after teams know what he likes to do. If he can adapt he will be fine. 
 

I was much more disappointed in the D than the O. Sorry not forcing at least one punt is unacceptable.  (I literally yelled at the TV when Jackson dropped that INT thrown right to him with 7 minutes left.   I had to apologize for teaching my 7 year old nephew a new bad word lol)

That’s about what my reaction was when Levi Wallace dropped an INT through his hands.

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Posted (edited)
10 minutes ago, Scott7975 said:

 

Are you telling me that you wouldn't trade Mac Jones straight up for Allen right now?

 

 

Of course...But that doesn't mean we need to be envious of him or the bills. 

 

Some here don't want to put things into perspective n get offended when others do...I try to keep it as logical as possible. I can't act like the sky is fallen after every lost.

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Posted
1 hour ago, PatsFanNH said:

I predicted a shoot out as I didn’t expect either team stop the other. I was half right. They probably score 28 if Jackson doesn’t drop a dang easy INT.. so I wasn’t terribly far off, I also did the prediction before I knew Bourne would miss all week of practice and Agalor be gone and we wouldn’t have Stevenson.. I probably would have said 28 lol… (I kid I love my team so I over guessed)

Don’t forget Buffalo dropping a TD pass on 4th down, having a TD called back by penalty, or Levi Wallace dropping an INT.

 

Or Buffalo not having 2 of its top 4 WRs, or then losing a starting OL during the game.

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13 minutes ago, Scott7975 said:

 

This is why having a strong run game doesnt mean much unless the defense is the 85 bears.  As soon as you come up against an offense that can score, the running game means nothing.  You guys literally killed your own clock with 7+ minute drives.

We didn’t need the ‘85 bears D we just needed one that made the Bills punt 1 or 2 times.  No team is going to win a game their D doesn’t make one punt happen. 

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