Defense: let’s grade and comment your grade

[Ethan in Cleveland]

1 hour ago, atlbillsfan1975 said:

Well they were a lot better than the Pats D. Today the Bills beat the best OC, the refs, and the Pats. 

The refs? 

[atlbillsfan1975]

Just now, Ethan in Portland said:

The refs? 

Yes, every time you play NE you also play the refs. 

[Captain Caveman]

1 hour ago, buffalojedwardo said:

defense is soft and lacks a pass rush 

 

I feel like we're in a place right now where we can either rush the passer, or have gap integrity and not give up big chunks in the rushing game.  It's not great to have to pick between them, but in most games being able to do one or the other (with this offense) will be fine.

[Ethan in Cleveland]

Just now, atlbillsfan1975 said:

Yes, every time you play NE you also play the refs. 

Enlighten me. I must have missed all the calls that should have gone Buffalo's way today that didn't.  

Let's see they called holding on the Pats on a Jerry Hughes rush. They picked up the flag on Hughes roughness. They called two taunting penalties against the Pats. 

I saw a couple close PI calls that they let go both ways. They didn't call Dawkins for a hold on Allen's 4th down run. 

Williams was 8 yards downfield blocking on the Knox TD pass. That was the correct call. 

Help the rest of us that don't see the bias that you do.

[97bills]

1 hour ago, Kellyhero68 said:

Defensive line has no pass rush moves. Straight bull rush most of the time. Where is Groot and Boogie? 

Rookies, that stud from Dallas doesn’t come often. But I get what your saying 

[Saxum]

1 hour ago, Italian Bills said:

Today the defense had a poor performance. My grade is C-

 

Subject does not match poll.  Grade D- or you could argue for an incomplete.

[atlbillsfan1975]

8 minutes ago, Ethan in Portland said:

Enlighten me. I must have missed all the calls that should have gone Buffalo's way today that didn't.  

Let's see they called holding on the Pats on a Jerry Hughes rush. They picked up the flag on Hughes roughness. They called two taunting penalties against the Pats. 

I saw a couple close PI calls that they let go both ways. They didn't call Dawkins for a hold on Allen's 4th down run. 

Williams was 8 yards downfield blocking on the Knox TD pass. That was the correct call. 

Help the rest of us that don't see the bias that you do.

Judging by your posts, I don’t have enough time or energy to enlighten you. 

You sounds like a sore loser right now. Are you a Pats fan or a Bills fan who wanted the Bills to lose so you could say “I told you.”?

Edited December 27, 2021 by atlbillsfan1975

[SydneyBillsFan]

I wonder what our team sack total is this season? I am guessing we are bottom 10 in the NFL.

 

It needs to improve.

[Freddie's Dead]

WTF, I'll give them an A.  They held the Cheats to 21 and won the turnover battle.  If that third Cheats scoring drive worried you, it took like 10 minutes and the Bills D made them earn every inch.  MacHeath just isn't consistent enough to overcome the Bills in the lead.  By making them earn every inch, and not giving up any huge plays, the Bills D just choked the life out of the Cheats.  Complementary football guys.

[LeGOATski]

B- 

 

The good: Pass defense. Coverage was great. Blitzes worked. They got turnovers when they needed them. Mac Jones looked thoroughly confused at times.

 

The bad: run defense. DEs, LBs, and DBs all were undisciplined at times. They could not hold the line or keep the Pats RBs out of the end zone.

 

Overall, they held the Pats offense to below their scoring average and won the game.

[thurst44]

Is this a joke thread? We just beat the Patriots in Foxboro and held them to well below the yardage average for both them and the NFL. They are still the #1 defense by many metrics, including the one commonly used in the NFL. The D held the Pats to 3 & out on first drive, and definitively so, giving the offense the chance to take the lead. The only three drives the Pats had were about as far from easy as possible. Defense gets an A from me. It did what it needed to do in one of the unfriendliest environments in the NFL, and held the team under the average amount of yards and points and never put the team in any serious danger of losing.

 

Criticism is fine, but why are some people coming here to negatively post against the team after a win over the Patriots in Foxboro that puts the Bills in a spot where they have an insanely good chance of winning the division? I'll never get this mentality.

 

 

1 hour ago, newcam2012 said:

Not right now. The time is to enjoy the win!

Also, how in the world is the Bills defense was terrible anyone's main takeaway from this game.

Edited December 27, 2021 by thurst44

[JoshAllin]

They need to work on the 4th and short plays

[NewEra]

Do people really have an issue with our pass rush today?  Ridiculous.  We were moving macnchz off his spot and made him uncomfortable the entire game.  The patriot OL is a solid group and they got worked today.  Our D played just fine. The pats were 1/10 on 3rd down.  We forced 2 picks and Levi dropped a 3rd. 

 

B+

[GoBills808]

Run defense doesn’t matter when Josh Allen has time to throw the football

[Mango]

Edmunds had a lot of difficulty shedding blocks today. Early in the game Harris picked him up 1:1 in the backfield. No chip. Didn’t go low. Squared up and stopped Edmunds in his tracks. But pass rush machine, or something…. 
 

I really want to like Edmunds more than I do. I don’t want to get rid of him. But also don’t want to pay him. 
 

 

 

[FLFan]

Lots of confused people on this thread.

[ganesh]

Matt Milano had a less than average game than he usually plays

[HoofHearted]

34 minutes ago, Mango said:

Edmunds had a lot of difficulty shedding blocks today. Early in the game Harris picked him up 1:1 in the backfield. No chip. Didn’t go low. Squared up and stopped Edmunds in his tracks. But pass rush machine, or something…. 
 

I really want to like Edmunds more than I do. I don’t want to get rid of him. But also don’t want to pay him. 
 

 

 

That’s by design. If you are an interior rusher and you lose your first move you are a low box player and coached to hold the LoS until the QB steps up into the pocket. It’s the edge rushers job yo set the high box and force the QB to step up. The play you’re referring to has a stunt between Edmunds and Oliver where Oliver twisted off of Edmunds rush and came through Scott free because Edmonds did his job.

Edited December 27, 2021 by HoofHearted

[716er]

B

[LABILLBACKER]

Still no pass rush

Still no big plays from Edmunds 

Still over-persue 

Yet somehow were still top 3 in many defensive categories.....

Bend don't break.