Gabe Davis on covid list

[Jauronimo]

1 minute ago, Max Fischer said:

it may soon be moot but the article doesn’t say Dawkins is officially out. 

I have not seen anything official from the team so I'm holding out hope he plays but its not looking great for our offensive line on Sunday.

[HappyDays]

5 minutes ago, FireChans said:

Cole and Gabe’s decision didn’t really make a difference then

 

Of course it made a difference. They had to be tested every single day whether they had symptoms or not. If they had been vaccinated they likely would not have tested positive even if they had contracted the virus.

 

And by the way a lot of the vaccinated players that ended up on the covid reserve list happened before the change in protocol. Now that they are rarely testing those players their advantage has increased substantially.

Edited December 24, 2021 by HappyDays

[Utah John]

26 minutes ago, Alphadawg7 said:

I’m vaccinated and boosted.  I have COVID right now and got it from my friend who is also vaccinated and boosted.

 

People need to stop thinking the vaccination keeps you from getting it or spreading it, that’s not at all what it does.

 

Yea it can reduce the odds of getting it and spreading it, but new variants lessen that.  The vaccination purpose is to significantly reduce the chances of getting severe reactions that require hospitalization or death.  It improves recovery time as well and shortens the window in which you are contagious to others.

 

So the breakout going on in the NFL has nothing to do with unvaccinated players.  Anyone and everyone can, and is, spreading it. 
 

However, if you are vaccinated the time to return to the field can be shortened versus unvaccinated because your timeline of how long you can be contagious to others is shorter.

Good post, but the purpose of the vaccination is actually all of the above, and more.  For the individual, it reduces the odds of getting covid in the first place, and if the virus still gets a foothold the vaccination significantly reduces the chances of severe reactions including hospitalization or death.  And it improves recovery time and the window when the individual is contagious to others.  Pretty much what you said.

 

The benefit goes way beyond that, to contributing to protecting the health of countless others and to reducing the rate of spread and the extent of spread of the virus overall.  

 

As to your statement that the breakout going on in the NFL has nothing to do with unvaxxed players, that's not really clear.  Because delta and omicron are more transmissable, it's possible that some percentage of the new cases (maybe a majority) are from vaxxed players getting and spreading the virus -- but we don't know what that percentage is, since many of the vaxxed players still won't get covid at all, and whether the unvaxxed players are the ones spreading to everyone.  

 

The right thing to do would be to test everyone, all the players, coaches, and staff, every day.  I think the league is afraid to do that because of what they might find out.  They really might have to cancel games, or even the rest of the season.  That would cost many millions of dollars, of course, so they're doing the ostrich thing and NOT testing everyone every day.

[dgrochester55]

1 hour ago, Blainorama5 said:

Um....  don't believe I mentioned politics anywhere in that response.  If you are projecting political themes onto it - that's on you my friend.

Sure buddy.   It was political, you know it and I know it.

[Bob in STL]

29 minutes ago, Bangarang said:

I’ll allow it

Thanks.  You never know.  Maybe this team will rise up and overcome the adversity.  

[Protocal69]

6 minutes ago, RobbRiddick said:

It'll be a miracle if we don't get massacred. 

 

Josh is going to have to have his game of the season to win this now. I hope he just takes off running every time there's nothing open. To hell with staying behind the line of scrimmage, looking for a deep pass and risking a sack, just take off and try and get those first downs.

This game may provide glimpse into what life will be like in a few years when Josh Allen contract kicks in and we can't afford to keep everyone. These are the type of games and situations to show Josh is worth the huge contract down the line which of course I feel like he is

[Solomon Grundy]

@Alphadawg7, one of you had to come across an unvaccinated person somewhere. Variants are possible due to unvaccinated people. This virus could've been eradicated if people would've masked up, social distanced and got vaccinated. Period!! 

[FireChans]

9 minutes ago, HappyDays said:

 

Of course it made a difference. They had to be tested every single day whether they had symptoms or not. If they had been vaccinated they likely would not have tested positive even if they had contracted the virus.

 

And by the way a lot of the vaccinated players that ended up on the covid reserve list happened before the change in protocol. Now that they are rarely testing those players their advantage has increased substantially.

They have been tested everyday and not been positive until week 16 when vaccinated and unvaccinated players both have been coming up positive around the league like flies.

 

So yeah, it didn’t matter dude. People raging in this thread have a personal problem with Beasley and Gabe.

Edited December 24, 2021 by FireChans

[Bob in STL]

13 minutes ago, RobbRiddick said:

It'll be a miracle if we don't get massacred. 

 

Josh is going to have to have his game of the season to win this now. I hope he just takes off running every time there's nothing open. To hell with staying behind the line of scrimmage, looking for a deep pass and risking a sack, just take off and try and get those first downs.

BB will likely have the DEs set the edge, forcing him up the middle where the likes of Boettger/Morse/Bates/Doyle will have to play better than they have all season. 
 

 

[Dopey]

Ouch. 

Let's go Knox ?

[FireChans]

35 minutes ago, Alphadawg7 said:

Always was.  Not one time ever has the vaccine been touted to keep you from getting it 100%.  Just like the flu shot doesn’t guarantee you won’t get it.  
 

If people want to listen to fake biased media or social media to get a different impression, well that’s on them.  
 

But at no point has it ever been the case that the vaccine makes you immune to COVID.  

That’s weird, because the initial Pfizer study’s primary conclusion was 95% protection against infection.

 

https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/nejmoa2034577

Edited December 24, 2021 by FireChans

[Joe Ferguson]

Just letting you folks know that Duke Williams is currently Covid free.

[oldmanfan]

11 minutes ago, FireChans said:

That’s weird, because the initial Pfizer study’s primary conclusion was 95% protection against infection.

 

https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/nejmoa2034577

Yes.  And 95% isn’t 100%

[Weatherman]

11 minutes ago, FireChans said:

They have been tested everyday and not been positive until week 16 when vaccinated and unvaccinated players both have been coming up positive around the league like flies.

 

So yeah, it didn’t matter dude. People raging in this thread have a personal problem with Beasley and Gabe.

They put themselves before the team.  It appears that nearly every unvaccinated player (except Star) on the Bills roster is unavailable this week for the most likely division deciding game.  It’s clearly a massive disadvantage to have players that are unvaccinated on your roster.  

[HalftimeAdjustment]

1 minute ago, oldmanfan said:

Yes.  And 95% isn’t 100%

 

And the follow up period in that study was not 6 months.

Just now, Weatherman said:

They put themselves before the team.  It appears that nearly every unvaccinated player (except Star) on the Bills roster is unavailable this week for the most likely division deciding game.  It’s clearly a massive disadvantage to have players that are unvaccinated on your roster.  

 

What about the Saints? Or the WFT? Or Cleveland?

 

 

[oldmanfan]

1 minute ago, HalftimeAdjustment said:

 

And the follow up period in that study was not 6 months.

 

What about the Saints? Or the WFT? Or Cleveland?

 

 

The point is the vaccines, especially the mRNA ones, worked very well against the initial and delta strains.  Not as much against omicron it would appear.

[BuffaninSarasota]

21 minutes ago, Solomon Grundy said:

@Alphadawg7, one of you had to come across an unvaccinated person somewhere. Variants are possible due to unvaccinated people. This virus could've been eradicated if people would've masked up, social distanced and got vaccinated. Period!! 

So variants are possible due to unvaccinated people, huh? Any data to support that claim?

[Casey D]

7 minutes ago, Buffalo619 said:

It’s like we live in a clown world. Common sense out the window. 

I have to agree.

[Dr.Sack]

10 days for Davis. 

[Alphadawg7]

42 minutes ago, Jauronimo said:

No, it was 99% effective in preventing Covid.  Until 6 months later it was largely ineffective.  And that was never the intention.  Lets not pretend this was the plan all along.

I guess you missed the part about new variants