Dion Dawkins, Stefon Diggs named to Pro Bowl

[Ray Stonada]

Tyler Matakevic??????

 

[Doc Brown]

The same panel that selects the all pros should also select the pro bowlers.  Especially since the fifth year options on rookie contracts are tied to the voting.  Jackson ahead of Allen (and Burrow) is ridiculous.

[Giuseppe Tognarelli]

 

[Ethan in Cleveland]

20 minutes ago, AlfaBill said:

Yes it’s sad. When you watch a Ravens game the tv crew are very careful I how they critique him. He’s not just a runner. Look at that great read and through. Bla bla bla. They’re afraid to call him as he is. 

What is he? He is a former MVP. He is a winner. He carries his team. Jusy like Allen does. 

When Josh runs its ok but when Lamar does it is somehow different? Are yards gained different for white QBs compared to black QBs? 

I can't understand how Lamar is voted to probowl over Allen this year. It makes no sense. But the comments about Lamar not being able to pass is just racist bull####.  Allen has about 4K more yards and 14 more passing TDs than Jackson, but Jackson has 13 less INTs. They are both great QBs that carry their teams. 

12 minutes ago, Ray Stonada said:

Tyler Matakevic??????

 

I know. What a joke. Any street free agent LB can do what he does. Hell he isn't even the best special team guy on the Bills and I'd cut every one of them to save money for next year.

[AlfaBill]

9 minutes ago, Ethan in Portland said:

What is he? He is a former MVP. He is a winner. He carries his team. Jusy like Allen does. 

When Josh runs its ok but when Lamar does it is somehow different? Are yards gained different for white QBs compared to black QBs? 

I can't understand how Lamar is voted to probowl over Allen this year. It makes no sense. But the comments about Lamar not being able to pass is just racist bull####.  Allen has about 4K more yards and 14 more passing TDs than Jackson, but Jackson has 13 less INTs. They are both great QBs that carry their teams. 

I know. What a joke. Any street free agent LB can do what he does. Hell he isn't even the best special team guy on the Bills and I'd cut every one of them to save money for next year.

I didn’t say he could not pass. What I said was if you listen to the color commentators during a ravens game they pick their words carefully. They’re afraid to really criticize him for fear of being labeled as the ‘guys who think black QBs can’t pass’. That’s all. I think it goes as far as MVP voting. 

[BillsFan692]

1 hour ago, Utah John said:

I think this Seifert guy is dead on.  Exactly right.  And next year, the Bills will have a better O line (we assume) so Allen will be able to return to MVP performance levels. 

Allen is having better season the last year tho.. maybe -- too early to call it but looks like it could.

[The Wiz]

25 minutes ago, Ethan in Portland said:

What is he? He is a former MVP. He is a winner. He carries his team. Jusy like Allen does. 

When Josh runs its ok but when Lamar does it is somehow different? Are yards gained different for white QBs compared to black QBs? 

I can't understand how Lamar is voted to probowl over Allen this year. It makes no sense. But the comments about Lamar not being able to pass is just racist bull####.  Allen has about 4K more yards and 14 more passing TDs than Jackson, but Jackson has 13 less INTs. They are both great QBs that carry their teams. 

I know. What a joke. Any street free agent LB can do what he does. Hell he isn't even the best special team guy on the Bills and I'd cut every one of them to save money for next year.

I actually blame Mahomes for not being black enough for these votes 🤣

[Norcalbillsfan]

We should be rejoicing, Allen poyer Hyde Milano Knox bass all playing with a chip on their shoulder rest of season? I'm all for it.

Though Josh is statisticly better than lamar in so many categories, and lamars backup just brought life back to a lame duck offense but ya send him to the pro bowl cuz has a few cool runs every few weeks.

[BuffaloBills1998]

47 minutes ago, Ethan in Portland said:

What is he? He is a former MVP. He is a winner. He carries his team. Jusy like Allen does. 

When Josh runs its ok but when Lamar does it is somehow different? Are yards gained different for white QBs compared to black QBs? 

I can't understand how Lamar is voted to probowl over Allen this year. It makes no sense. But the comments about Lamar not being able to pass is just racist bull####.  Allen has about 4K more yards and 14 more passing TDs than Jackson, but Jackson has 13 less INTs. They are both great QBs that carry their teams. 

I know. What a joke. Any street free agent LB can do what he does. Hell he isn't even the best special team guy on the Bills and I'd cut every one of them to save money for next year.

It’s not racist it’s a fact. He can’t read defenses, if his first or second read isn’t there he takes off running. To me Jackson is a better version of Tyrod Taylor. Many will disagree but that’s what I see. To quote Don Shula regarding David Woodley… He’s an athlete trying to play QB. Defenses have figured him out, he’s not consistent nor is he much of a threat anymore. Defenses this year have blocked his running lanes and have forced him to be a QB( something he isn’t) hence the high INTs this season for him. 

Edited December 23, 2021 by BuffaloBills1998

[Process]

38 minutes ago, BillsFan692 said:

Allen is having better season the last year tho.. maybe -- too early to call it but looks like it could.

Could care less what the stats say, Allen and the offense are no where near as good or as sharp as they were last year.

 

Regardless, he is still having a 10x better season than Lamar and the pro bowl selections are obviously a joke.

[par73]

No point in getting worked up over Pro Bowl voting-- it is just a popularity contest. Dawkins' inclusion says it all.

[Nelius]

I don't understand Allen at all but I'm even more confused by Dawkins. Obviously rooting for the guy to be Pro Bowl caliber but I thought he's looked awful this year, just not right, as if he's either injured/sick or out of shape or even both.

[BillsFan692]

3 minutes ago, Process said:

Could care less what the stats say, Allen and the offense are no where near as good or as sharp as they were last year.

 

Regardless, he is still having a 10x better season than Lamar and the pro bowl selections are obviously a joke.

I dont know about that. 

 

Tennessee game JA has ball on 2 yard line.

Bucs game JA has ball on 7 yard line

Patriots game JA has ball on 3 yard line opt for over time...

 

Bills are "inches" away from being a dominant team on so many levels... just how it goes some time. We won all the close games last year, we have lost some heart breakers this year.

 

Doesnt make us "unequivocally worse". We are just skewed in our perceptions by the only stat that matters -- Ws and Ls.

 

The details on how you get those Ws and Ls matter though

[Utah John]

2 hours ago, 78thealltimegreat said:

In the Titans and Bucs games was he or was he not the best player on the field? The end 

Sure, I agree with you.  But for people outside Bills World, what they remember is the W or L.  

[Like A Mofo]

Dawkins horrible? Not by a longshot.

[Buffalo Ballin]

Congrats to Stephon Diggs and Dion Dawkins. They earned it.

[QCity]

1 hour ago, Billl said:

Because Josh already has a contract.  There’s a theme to these selections, and it’s that the guys who make it without deserving it are all up for contracts.  Orlando Brown made it for Kansas City but Creed Humphrey didn’t.  

 

You're right, and it's been this way for a while. Fans only make up 33% of the vote, the players and coaches make up the other 66%. I can guarantee there are Bills' players that did not vote for their own teammates.

 

Fuming over this is like getting mad at a scripted reality show. The players aren't going to use this as a chip on their shoulders -- they get more upset over their Madden ratings.

[Bangarang]

The Pro Bowl is an absolute joke of a popularity contest. 

[Sherlock Holmes]

3 hours ago, RaoulDuke79 said:

In your honest opinion,  what do you think the chances are McCaffrey ever plays a full season again? 

1 million percent...hopefully it starts as a 10+ year run with us next year.

[MJS]

Poyer deserves it more than anyone. He has had a great year.