Generic_Bills_Fan Posted December 20, 2021 Posted December 20, 2021 6 hours ago, Sharky7337 said: I'd say only attempting 3 passes is easy. We had a nice collection of 20 offensive plays where if we made one of them we win that game. That was nowhere remotely close to an easy win and I for one am not at all impressed by the pats gameplan in that game. They crossed midfield 3 total times. I think belichicks entire gameplan was based on the fact that we wouldn’t be able to move the ball through the air into the wind and he badly miscalculated and he was sweatin it out in that 4th quarter for sure 1 1 Quote
TBBills Posted December 20, 2021 Posted December 20, 2021 2 hours ago, stosh64 said: FFS, go troll elsewhere He was banned on the Patriot forums. 1 Quote
Generic_Bills_Fan Posted December 20, 2021 Posted December 20, 2021 7 hours ago, Jeffbigalls said: Pats win easy I don’t think the pats are much better than that panthers team we saw yesterday honestly…against the bills matchup wise at least. I’d prefer seeing mac jones to cam newton if I’m the bills. I don’t think either side is playing much better than a fringe playoff team right now so I’d expect a close one. Pats just had a nice run where every decent team they faced had a massive amount of injuries so they stacked some wins in a row. 1 Quote
Ghost_002! Posted December 20, 2021 Posted December 20, 2021 9 minutes ago, Generic_Bills_Fan said: We had a nice collection of 20 offensive plays where if we made one of them we win that game. That was nowhere remotely close to an easy win and I for one am not at all impressed by the pats gameplan in that game. They crossed midfield 3 total times. I think belichicks entire gameplan was based on the fact that we wouldn’t be able to move the ball through the air into the wind and he badly miscalculated and he was sweatin it out in that 4th quarter for sure They won the game solely running the ball, they knew the weather was going to be a factor and the bills which were the home team never factored that into their game plan. That says a whole lot. You think some of those misses and drop passes the weather didnt have anything to do with it? Any way you slice it if you are to be objective, the weather had a lot to do with how both teams played. And as i said, seemed to me only one team prepared for it better than the other. Quote
Generic_Bills_Fan Posted December 20, 2021 Posted December 20, 2021 1 minute ago, Ghost_002! said: They won the game solely running the ball, they knew the weather was going to be a factor and the bills which were the home team never factored that into their game plan. That says a whole lot. You think some of those misses and drop passes the weather didnt have anything to do with it? Any way you slice it if you are to be objective, the weather had a lot to do with how both teams played. And as i said, seemed to me only one team prepared for it better than the other. The bills never factoring into their game plan is the bills fault? Lol this is that classic ‘hindsight is 20/20’ type example for me…I saw that game as belichick ran his own team straight out of the building and got lucky honestly…they dodged so many bullets. If anything I think McDermott overadjusted for the wind offensively at least…josh was throwing lasers into the wind in the second half which we didn’t trust him with in the first half for whatever reason. I’m actually more worried about the rematch than most because I think we caught belichick with his pants down in this one and that will not happen again Quote
Ghost_002! Posted December 20, 2021 Posted December 20, 2021 (edited) 6 minutes ago, Generic_Bills_Fan said: The bills never factoring into their game plan is the bills fault? Huh, then whose fault was it? 6 minutes ago, Generic_Bills_Fan said: The bills never factoring into their game plan is the bills fault? Lol this is that classic ‘hindsight is 20/20’ type example for me…I saw that game as belichick ran his own team straight out of the building and got lucky honestly…they dodged so many bullets. If anything I think McDermott overadjusted for the wind offensively at least…josh was throwing lasers into the wind in the second half which we didn’t trust him with in the first half for whatever reason. I’m actually more worried about the rematch than most because I think we caught belichick with his pants down in this one and that will not happen again What bullet? The Bills didnt score when you needed to...the last play of the game Allen had to rush the pass because he was going to be sacked allowing the Pats like 4th string corner to break off from Beasley and deflect the pass? The pats lead the whole way? The bills waiting to the 4th quarter to adj. to what the pats were doing to them on offense is pretty telling of how ill prepare they were coached up to be. Edited December 20, 2021 by Ghost_002! 1 1 1 Quote
Generic_Bills_Fan Posted December 20, 2021 Posted December 20, 2021 (edited) 5 minutes ago, Ghost_002! said: Huh, then whose fault was it? Belichicks…that’s my point. He was sure we would not be able to move the ball through the air into the wind and we did it with ease in the 4th quarter. If he knows we’re going to have two legitimate chances in a row in the red zone late to win the game he completely reworks his whole gameplan imo. We absolutely sh*t ourselves execution wise in the red zone there I think we win that game more than half the time. Edited December 20, 2021 by Generic_Bills_Fan Quote
What a Tuel Posted December 20, 2021 Posted December 20, 2021 6 minutes ago, Ghost_002! said: Huh, then whose fault was it? What bullet? The Bills didnt score when you needed to...the last play of the game Allen had to rush the pass because he was going to be sacked allowing the Pats like 4th string corner to break off from Beasley and deflect the pass? The pats lead the whole way? The bills waiting to the 4th quarter to adj. to what the pats were doing to them on offense is pretty telling of how ill prepare they were coached up to be. We aren't afraid of this bud. You are right, our offense didn't get it done from the 15 yard line at the end. But you weren't doing anything to us on offense. One long run and 2 field goals. 1st Drive 2 carries 7 yards (punt) 2nd Drive 3 carries 5 yards (punt) 3rd drive 3 carries 69 yards (td) 4th drive 7 carries 40 yards (field goal) 5th drive 3 carries 4 yards (punt) 6th drive 4 carries 25 yards (punt) 7th drive 5 carries 17 yards (punt) 8th drive 13 carry 59 yards (field goal) 9th drive 2 carries 6 yards (punt) Quote
Ghost_002! Posted December 20, 2021 Posted December 20, 2021 (edited) 9 minutes ago, Generic_Bills_Fan said: Belichicks…that’s my point. He was sure we would not be able to move the ball through the air into the wind and we did it with ease in the 4th quarter. If he knows we’re going to have two legitimate chances in a row in the red zone late to win the game he completely reworks his whole gameplan imo. We absolutely sh*t ourselves execution wise in the red zone there I think we win that game more than half the time. ha ha what???? The bills didnt win the game, good job you got down to the redzone BUT DIDN'T SCORE because of his defense...he wasn't in vegas betting on how many times the Bills will make it into the redzone. He played to beat the bills and did. I dont know how it's Belichicks fault" the bills lost is some how looked at as a negative toward BIll Belichick's game plan in that game.....wow 6 minutes ago, What a Tuel said: We aren't afraid of this bud. You are right, our offense didn't get it done from the 15 yard line at the end. But you weren't doing anything to us on offense. One long run and 2 field goals. 1st Drive 2 carries 7 yards (punt) 2nd Drive 3 carries 5 yards (punt) 3rd drive 3 carries 69 yards (td) 4th drive 7 carries 40 yards (field goal) 5th drive 3 carries 4 yards (punt) 6th drive 4 carries 25 yards (punt) 7th drive 5 carries 17 yards (punt) 8th drive 13 carry 59 yards (field goal) 9th drive 2 carries 6 yards (punt) Afraid of what? Who said you were? Yup they didnt score again, and guess what NEVER DID THE BILLS and lost. I mean do we honestly understand how the end of the score works and what took place in the game for the score to be what the score was? Edited December 20, 2021 by Ghost_002! 1 Quote
What a Tuel Posted December 20, 2021 Posted December 20, 2021 3 minutes ago, Ghost_002! said: Afraid of what? Who said you were? Yup they didnt score again, and guess what NEVER DID THE BILLS and lost. I mean do we honestly understand how the end of the score works and who took place in the game for the score to be what the score was? Wait, I thought we were talking about what happened in the game? Now you want to just talk about the end score? Pick one. Your offense without that long run was not anything special enough to warrant "The bills waiting to the 4th quarter to adj. to what the pats were doing to them on offense".... Quote
Generic_Bills_Fan Posted December 20, 2021 Posted December 20, 2021 (edited) 9 minutes ago, Ghost_002! said: ha ha what???? The bills didnt win the game, good job you got down to the redzone BUT DIDN'T SCORE because of his defense...he wasn't in vegas betting on how many times the Bills will making into the redzone. He played to beat the bills and did. I dont know how it's Belichicks fault" the bills lost is some how looked at as a negative toward BIll Belichick's game plan in that game.....wow Afraid of what? Who said you were? Yup they didnt score again, and guess what NEVER DID THE BILLS and lost. I mean do we honestly understand how the end of the score works and what took place in the game for the score to be what the score was? That’s not really what I was saying but ok fair enough if you’re gonna go the ‘a win is a win and nothing else matters’ route 😂 pats did not do nearly enough on offense to win that game but our execution was absolutely terrible was my point…I’m not impressed at all that they won a game only running the ball when it only led to 14 points and crossing midfield 3 times I think that’s getting wildly overblown. I will say though that I am more worried about the rematch then most because of that…you don’t see bill getting surprised like that often and they still won the game so I’m at least partly with you I guess lol Edited December 20, 2021 by Generic_Bills_Fan Quote
HereComesTheReignAgain Posted December 20, 2021 Posted December 20, 2021 2 hours ago, HOUSE said: All I know is snowballs don't work anymore I had him all lined up but he ducked Is that the old lady from Goonies?! 1 Quote
Ghost_002! Posted December 20, 2021 Posted December 20, 2021 Just now, What a Tuel said: Wait, I thought we were talking about what happened in the game? Now you want to just talk about the end score? Pick one. Your offense without that long run was not anything special enough to warrant "The bills waiting to the 4th quarter to adj. to what the pats were doing to them on offense".... ok..it was nothing special but yet they did wait that long to adjust. Ok i wasn't arguing how good the pats offense was...so this is a mute point, and truly doesn't matter because through out that whole game the Bills didnt do enough to win the game..i mean i dont know what else in that game you wanna discuss if it ultimately resulted in the bills losing...i mean you will just be playing the "what if game" at this point. And cool. the pats offense didnt do anything in the 2nd half, apparently didn't need to. 1 Quote
Jauronimo Posted December 20, 2021 Posted December 20, 2021 Just now, Ghost_002! said: ok..it was nothing special but yet they did wait that long to adjust. Ok i wasn't arguing how good the pats offense was...so this is a mute point, and truly doesn't matter because through out that whole game the Bills didnt do enough to win the game..i mean i dont know what else in that game you wanna discuss if it ultimately resulted in the bills losing...i mean you will just be playing the "what if game" at this point. And cool. the pats offense didnt do anything in the 2nd half, apparently didn't need to. moot 2 1 Quote
What a Tuel Posted December 20, 2021 Posted December 20, 2021 (edited) 4 minutes ago, Ghost_002! said: ok..it was nothing special but yet they did wait that long to adjust. Ok i wasn't arguing how good the pats offense was...so this is a mute point, and truly doesn't matter because through out that whole game the Bills didnt do enough to win the game..i mean i dont know what else in that game you wanna discuss if it ultimately resulted in the bills losing...i mean you will just be playing the "what if game" at this point. And cool. the pats offense didnt do anything in the 2nd half, apparently didn't need to. Its not "what ifs", its the notion that the Pats dominated the game. If you are not implying they did then my apologies but your words seem to be saying they did. They did not, but yes the bills offense came up short on a potential game winning drive. It was a close oddball game. I am anticipating a different type of game next sunday. Edited December 20, 2021 by What a Tuel Quote
Ghost_002! Posted December 20, 2021 Posted December 20, 2021 (edited) 11 minutes ago, Generic_Bills_Fan said: That’s not really what I was saying but ok fair enough if you’re gonna go the ‘a win is a win and nothing else matters’ route 😂 pats did not do nearly enough on offense to win that game but our execution was absolutely terrible was my point…I’m not impressed at all that they won a game only running the ball when it only led to 14 points and crossing midfield 3 times I think that’s getting wildly overblown. I will say though that I am more worried about the rematch then most because of that…you don’t see bill getting surprised like that often and they still won the game so I’m at least partly with you I guess lol Respectfully this sounds insane. They scored more points than the Bills-so clearly the Pats offense did because the Bills couldn't tie or best the points that were already put up. You don't have to be impress by it. Cool. That doesn't matter and you're telling me the BIlls dont get surprised like that, that often. Then what was it when you lost to the Colts basically the same way? 5 minutes ago, What a Tuel said: Its not "what ifs", its the notion that the Pats dominated the game. If you are not implying they did then my apologies but your words seem to be saying they did. They did not, but yes the bills offense came up short on a potential game winning drive. It was a close oddball game. I am anticipating a different type of game next sunday. I am not implying that, but to say the pats just got lucky in that game is crazy to me. Edited December 20, 2021 by Ghost_002! 1 Quote
What a Tuel Posted December 20, 2021 Posted December 20, 2021 (edited) 6 minutes ago, Ghost_002! said: Respectfully this sounds insane. They scored more points than the Bills-so clearly the Pats offense did because the Bills couldn't tie or best the points they were already put up. You don't have to be impress by it. Cool. That doesn't matter and you're telling me the BIlls dont get surprised like that, that often. Then what was it when you lost to the Colts basically the same way? I am not implying that, but to say the pats just got lucky in that game is crazy to me. The fact that the bills got stopped at your 15 yard line on a game winning drive means your defense did enough to win. If they did not, then your offense would have been outscored. So while yes, you did end with more points, there was some chance at the end that you may not have. Hindsight is 20/20. If you didn't know the outcome of the game, would you think your offense scored enough points 14-10 with Allen driving down to your 15 yard line with 2:00 minutes left? I'd guess not. Also, I don't think the pats got lucky, but i do think 1 broken run play defined the game (aside from the wind). Edited December 20, 2021 by What a Tuel Quote
Matt_In_NH Posted December 20, 2021 Posted December 20, 2021 Hopefully he needs a new tablet after the game. Quote
Ghost_002! Posted December 20, 2021 Posted December 20, 2021 (edited) 10 minutes ago, What a Tuel said: The fact that the bills got stopped at your 15 yard line on a game winning drive means your defense did enough to win. If they did not, then your offense would have been outscored. So while yes, you did end with more points, there was some chance at the end that you may not have. Hindsight is 20/20. If you didn't know the outcome of the game, would you think your offense scored enough points 14-10 with Allen driving down to your 15 yard line with 2:00 minutes left? I'd guess not. At the bold, yes and also the offense because it was the offense that put up those points the bills were trying to overcome..(both sides did their job) And you just got done saying it's not about "what' ifs" now you are using "what ifs" !?!? Yes because BB is the coach that has gone through this many times and won championships and division titles in these same scenarios (offense driving to score) also that's why you play the whole 60 minutes of the game, case in point. last year in their first meeting. Cam Newton and the Pats were about score late in the 4th to win the game, but fumbled the ball back to buffalo. My point, you never know what could happen. Edited December 20, 2021 by Ghost_002! Quote
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