Ravens QB situation

[saundena]

The Ravens have to make a decision on whether or not to pay Lamar.  He's obviously a very good player, limited in some respects- yes; but also talented enough to take over a game.  But do you give him what could be the biggest contract in league history knowing that he's a big injury and his running skills will deteriorate over time?

 

From what I've seen from Tyler Huntley, there doesn't seem to be a big drop off between him and Lamar.   I wonder if he can get even better with more time and reps.

 

I wonder if anybody in their front office thinks that the smart play might be to let Lamar walk if he asks for too much and hitch their wagon to Huntley instead.  They have very similar play styles and with how accommodating Greg Roman is, I think they'd be fine

 

 

Edited December 20, 2021 by saundena

[BillsFan130]

They got a tough decision .

 

But I think you almost have to pay Lamar.

 

While flawed, he's still a really good QB

Edited December 20, 2021 by BillsFan130

[FireChans]

Just now, saundena said:

The Ravens have to make a decision on whether or not to pay Lamar.  He's obviously a very good player, limited in some respects- yes: but also talented enough to take over a game.  But do you give him what could be the biggest contract in league history knowing that he's a big injury and his running skills will deteriorate over time?

 

From what I've seen from Tyler Huntley, there doesn't seem to be a big drop off between him and Lamar.   I wonder if he can get even better with more time and reps.

 

I wonder if anybody in their front office thinks that the smart play might be to let Lamar walk if he asks for too much and hitch their wagon to Huntley instead.  

 

 

Huntley is not the physical specimen that Lamar is. Lamar is special, although limited. If you are going to hitch your wagon to a an extremely talented and athletic limited QB, pick the most talented one.

[JohnNord]

1 minute ago, saundena said:

The Ravens have to make a decision on whether or not to pay Lamar.  He's obviously a very good player, limited in some respects- yes: but also talented enough to take over a game.  But do you give him what could be the biggest contract in league history knowing that he's a big injury and his running skills will deteriorate over time?

 

From what I've seen from Tyler Huntley, there doesn't seem to be a big drop off between him and Lamar.   I wonder if he can get even better with more time and reps.

 

I wonder if anybody in their front office thinks that the smart play might be to let Lamar walk if he asks for too much and hitch their wagon to Huntley instead.  

 

 

Huntley might be a better passer than Lamar but Lamar is a much better runner… 
 

Pretty sure they re-sign Lamar but I wouldn’t be shocked to see them try to trade Huntley for a mid-round draft pick 

[PetermansRedemption]

I was thinking this today and last week. The drop off between Lamar and Huntley hasn’t been anywhere near the level that I expected. I’ve even found myself watching Huntley play and thinking “Lamar doesn’t make that throw”. 

[Ya Digg?]

8 minutes ago, JohnNord said:

Huntley might be a better passer than Lamar but Lamar is a much better runner… 
 

Pretty sure they re-sign Lamar but I wouldn’t be shocked to see them try to trade Huntley for a mid-round draft pick 

Why would they trade Huntley? If he’s a good, cheap back up isn’t that worth more than 5th round pick? 

[Olliemets]

Huntley can play. He’ll turn up somewhere after Ravens swallow hard and pay LaMarr.

[MAJBobby]

So Huntley throws the same routes that Lamar does. To Andrews. 
 

reality is Lamar has actually improved a lot throwing the Ball this year. 

[Miyagi-Do Karate]

17 minutes ago, saundena said:

The Ravens have to make a decision on whether or not to pay Lamar.  He's obviously a very good player, limited in some respects- yes; but also talented enough to take over a game.  But do you give him what could be the biggest contract in league history knowing that he's a big injury and his running skills will deteriorate over time?

 

From what I've seen from Tyler Huntley, there doesn't seem to be a big drop off between him and Lamar.   I wonder if he can get even better with more time and reps.

 

I wonder if anybody in their front office thinks that the smart play might be to let Lamar walk if he asks for too much and hitch their wagon to Huntley instead.  They have very similar play styles and with how accommodating Greg Roman is, I think they'd be fine

 

 

whats weird about Lamar is how sick the dude gets. He has had COVID like 4 times and then non-COVID illnesses a bunch more. They really need to get him some vitamins! 

[MasterStrategist]

All this after...

1. Lamar is a proven/past MVP

2. Huntley has made 1 start, and 1-2 relief appearances.  1 start against a Packer defense, coming off a struggling performance against the Bears

 

Not saying Huntley won't continue to develop, do any of us really know that though?  With the info that's available, why would Ravens let a young/MVP caliber player walk?  Lamar hasn't been MVP caliber this year, granted, but that team has also been snake bit with injuries and he's still led them to 8 wins, to date.  

 

No Brainer, pay Lamar and get healthy

[dpberr]

They have to figure out what's going on with Jackson healthwise and what that future trajectory looks like.
 

The "strange illness" that wasn't disclosed, the bouts of Covid. He's missed one game because of injury, but he often seems ailing to me.

[Helpmenow]

Not much film on him yet helps

[zow2]

Lamar was a recent league MVP.  I think they pay him. But i also think Huntley is not a career backup as he could start right now for some teams.  

[ControllerOfPlanetX]

Defenses have yet to see what Huntley can and cannot do. Once that is figured out, he will be Tyrod II.

[Maybe Someday]

They’re going to pay Lamar, question is how long the contract will be. At or near highest paid in the league for 4-5 years sounds about right. 

[Ed_Formerly_of_Roch]

41 minutes ago, saundena said:

The Ravens have to make a decision on whether or not to pay Lamar.  He's obviously a very good player, limited in some respects- yes; but also talented enough to take over a game.  But do you give him what could be the biggest contract in league history knowing that he's a big injury and his running skills will deteriorate over time?

 

From what I've seen from Tyler Huntley, there doesn't seem to be a big drop off between him and Lamar.   I wonder if he can get even better with more time and reps.

 

I wonder if anybody in their front office thinks that the smart play might be to let Lamar walk if he asks for too much and hitch their wagon to Huntley instead.  They have very similar play styles and with how accommodating Greg Roman is, I think they'd be fine

 

 

 

Was kind of thinking the same.  I assume they did pick up his option?

 

[JGMcD2]

I’ve had this thought a lot recently… but that doesn’t mean it’s right. 
 

If you’re an NFL franchise and you’re not sure about paying your QB… don’t. Find a comparable player, albeit with some drop off, give him very little money and build a team around him. 
 

I’ve observed it with Lamar/Huntley and I think the same thing can be said for Baker/Mullens. Obviously Lamar and Baker are more talented… but if they can’t put it together why waste the money? 

[Malazan]

59 minutes ago, FireChans said:

Huntley is not the physical specimen that Lamar is. Lamar is special, although limited. If you are going to hitch your wagon to a an extremely talented and athletic limited QB, pick the most talented one.

 

I think they have to pay Lamar, but the point is.. they wouldn't be 'hitching their wagon' to Huntley and could pay the team around him. It's a legit question whether some of these QBs in the current QB friendly environment can carry a team where they are worth 2-4 "superstars" of salary at other positions. If the Ravens decided not to, they'd also trade him.. and I don't think the equivalent of "4 1sts" would be far out there as a return. 

 

It's also much different when a player has to play game in / game out and gets the full attention of the opposing team's game plan. 

Edited December 20, 2021 by Malazan

[LABILLBACKER]

1 hour ago, BillsFan130 said:

They got a tough decision .

 

But I think you almost have to pay Lamar.

 

While flawed, he's still a really good QB

All I know is Lamar and Baker are going to get alot more money than they're worth.  Which in the long term will handcuff these organizations. 

[CincyBillsFan]

43 minutes ago, MasterStrategist said:

All this after...

1. Lamar is a proven/past MVP

2. Huntley has made 1 start, and 1-2 relief appearances.  1 start against a Packer defense, coming off a struggling performance against the Bears

 

Not saying Huntley won't continue to develop, do any of us really know that though?  With the info that's available, why would Ravens let a young/MVP caliber player walk?  Lamar hasn't been MVP caliber this year, granted, but that team has also been snake bit with injuries and he's still led them to 8 wins, to date.  

 

No Brainer, pay Lamar and get healthy

And how many times have we seen back-up QB's come in and tear it up for a game or two then suck.  A bunch of Bills QB's over the years come to mind and a guy named Mike White for the Jets is the most recent example.

 

I do think that signing Allen was a no brainer but signing Jackson to a contract equal to or larger is not such an easy call.  That's why Bean is to be commended for getting the Allen deal done. In a couple of years it will look like a bargain.