JohnNord Posted December 17, 2021 Posted December 17, 2021 22 hours ago, Nextmanup said: I would hate for us to burn a 1st or 2nd round draft choice on a RB! Don’t worry…it’s not in the DNA of team leadership. You are more likely to see another 1st round DL or OL than you are to see a 1st round running back Quote
Turk71 Posted December 17, 2021 Posted December 17, 2021 Offensive Line Offensive Line This team needs a decent line and has for years. I knew it was the biggest weakness going in to the season and sure enough, another promising season is sunk by it. Regardless of reason or blame the line is still the problem and a better running back doesn't solve it. 1 Quote
Alphadawg7 Posted December 17, 2021 Posted December 17, 2021 1 hour ago, LABILLBACKER said: Totally agree. Beane's strategy this offseason HAS to be committing 3 high picks to G/C. Even if that means signing a big name FA like Scherff. Most of the resources have to be focused on OL. I'm not thrilled about our 3 headed rb monster but I could live with Singletary one more year then go shopping in 23 for an elite RB. The only thing that terrifies me is McD will insist on a defensive player somewhere in the first 3 rounds. To be fair to McD though (in terms of Defense), we still do need to figure something out at DT given Star is struggling to stay on the field and is vital to our run D with the lack of size outside of him. And there is still the Edmunds wild card...is he in our future plans or do we need to draft one too? So I am all on board the OL early strategy, but I also won't be upset if they are on the clock and take a DT or LB that is higher graded on their board either. I have a feeling our first 3 picks will be some combination of a two offensive lineman and a defensive player, likely a run stuffing beef cake at DT. Then again, Beane stays pretty true to his board, so all depends who is on the board still while we are picking. Also won't be shocked to see him move around the draft this year either. Quote
NewEra Posted December 17, 2021 Posted December 17, 2021 44 minutes ago, JohnNord said: Don’t worry…it’s not in the DNA of team leadership. You are more likely to see another 1st round DL or OL than you are to see a 1st round running back Maybe. Maybe not. Beane was part of the regime that took first rd RBs in 2006 and 2008. Hard to tell after just a few years in which they took 2 RBs in rd 3. I hope that your correct. Quote
Solomon Grundy Posted December 17, 2021 Posted December 17, 2021 3 hours ago, thenorthremembers said: I get what you're saying about the one year wonder thing, but I think if you look at his output at Wake you may see that its not completely accurate. He scored 13 touchdowns in 2020, and while his yards per carry could have been higher in 2020, his overall work at Wake was good despite a lack of touches. May have been even better if he wasnt splitting carries. The main difference I see between Walker and Hall is the explosiveness to their first read. Hall is a more patient runner, but Walker makes decisions a lot faster, which is what I think the Bills really need. Breece shows the patience like Leveon Bell when he runs. When he sees that hole, he’s gone. He also knows how to make himself “skinny” when running inside. I’m hoping teams see Breece as the 2nd/3rd rated back in the draft, but I think the combine will show his talents Quote
Clyde Smith Posted December 17, 2021 Posted December 17, 2021 See if Beane can work magic and get Etienne from Jax for a 3rd.😎 Quote
Solomon Grundy Posted December 17, 2021 Posted December 17, 2021 1 hour ago, Billzgobowlin said: I really liked Khalil Herbert last year. This year I want to go after Bryce Hall Me too, check the archives 1 Quote
LABILLBACKER Posted December 18, 2021 Posted December 18, 2021 53 minutes ago, Alphadawg7 said: To be fair to McD though (in terms of Defense), we still do need to figure something out at DT given Star is struggling to stay on the field and is vital to our run D with the lack of size outside of him. And there is still the Edmunds wild card...is he in our future plans or do we need to draft one too? So I am all on board the OL early strategy, but I also won't be upset if they are on the clock and take a DT or LB that is higher graded on their board either. I have a feeling our first 3 picks will be some combination of a two offensive lineman and a defensive player, likely a run stuffing beef cake at DT. Then again, Beane stays pretty true to his board, so all depends who is on the board still while we are picking. Also won't be shocked to see him move around the draft this year either. Hey I get it. We need a 1T monster and a CB2 really bad. If we can court Scherff than that frees up a high pick for 1T. CB2 is not as high a priority with guys like Wallace, Jackson and Lewis serviceable. The possible CB pick will also depend on how Tre's rehab is going. The emphasis this spring still has to be centered on OL. I sick and tired watching Josh run for his life. Quote
Turbo44 Posted December 18, 2021 Posted December 18, 2021 Walker is my sons friend (he goes to Wake Forest and walker transferred to Michigan State from Wake). Freakish athlete and really nice kid but I’m still not sure I’d use a 2nd rounder on a RB. Walker was tragically underused at Wake. 1 Quote
badassgixxer05 Posted December 18, 2021 Posted December 18, 2021 On 12/16/2021 at 6:46 PM, 78thealltimegreat said: Obviously if Zack Moss turns it around would be the best news but should he keep getting benched… With KJ Walker declaring for the draft there’s like 5 top 2ish round kinda prospects Bryce Hall Iowa State Isiah Spiller (no relation to CJ) Texas A&M Zamir White Georgia KJ Walker Sparty Zach Charbonnet UCLA The Bills could actually get a nice Guard prospect cause it is deep at Guard in the first Comeback with RB to get at least Moss replaced and immediately upgrade the depth at two positions No mention of Kyren Williams? Hes everything that we wished Singletary and Moss would be and more. Quote
thenorthremembers Posted December 18, 2021 Posted December 18, 2021 1 hour ago, Solomon Grundy said: Breece shows the patience like Leveon Bell when he runs. When he sees that hole, he’s gone. He also knows how to make himself “skinny” when running inside. I’m hoping teams see Breece as the 2nd/3rd rated back in the draft, but I think the combine will show his talents While draftnetwork has him as the 6th overall back (behind Walker, Charbonnet, Spiller, Kyren Williams, and James Cook) I think he is definitely the 2nd best back going into the combine. What could hurt him is timed speed. I think the gap between he and Walker for the best RB in the draft is wider than the gap between he and Charbonnet for 2nd best overall back. If he goes into the combine and runs slow you could see Charbonnet over take him. I still think he is a better football player than Spiller, Williams and Cook. Spiller has his own speed concerns and both Williams and Cook are sub 200 lb backs. For what its worth Kyren Williams is a pit bull, but at 195 lbs you'd really like to see a faster player. Overall, Breece would really help himself if he showed he has sub 4.55 speed. Quote
JMF2006 Posted December 18, 2021 Posted December 18, 2021 4 hours ago, billsfan714 said: Saw Levi's market value at 5.7 million. That's affordable for a corner that starts all 16/17 almost every year. Quote
Rubes Posted December 18, 2021 Posted December 18, 2021 8 hours ago, NewEra said: I hope you’re right. It’s possible as long as Dawkins returns to pre COVid form. He’s been one of the worst OLmen on the team this season. Brown vs TB was laughable. He was the worst player on the field in the first half. Mental mistakes up the wazoo. I have faith in those two. Dawkins will get better with an offseason. Brown has the tools, he's still a rookie with only a few starts. 1 Quote
78thealltimegreat Posted December 18, 2021 Author Posted December 18, 2021 1 hour ago, Solomon Grundy said: Me too, check the archives Watching his clips of his performance against Baylor he reminds you of Levon Bell Quote
billsfan_34 Posted December 18, 2021 Posted December 18, 2021 On 12/16/2021 at 6:47 PM, Nextmanup said: I would hate for us to burn a 1st or 2nd round draft choice on a RB! When you have a Derrick Henry or a Najee Narris type sitting there at the end of the first or in the second you run to the podium. Stevenson was there, and that beast will be a thorn in our side for years to come. Quote
Thriftygamer83 Posted December 18, 2021 Posted December 18, 2021 Zach Moss whiffed big time partying with Isaiah McKenzie, that breaking curfew thing, and literally it just completely has backfired. We don't know truthfully what's going on with the running backs, with Singletary he's a work horse, does his best, and leaves it out on the field. Breida is making Moss look like he just punted his career away. Quote
Alphadawg7 Posted December 18, 2021 Posted December 18, 2021 2 hours ago, LABILLBACKER said: Hey I get it. We need a 1T monster and a CB2 really bad. If we can court Scherff than that frees up a high pick for 1T. CB2 is not as high a priority with guys like Wallace, Jackson and Lewis serviceable. The possible CB pick will also depend on how Tre's rehab is going. The emphasis this spring still has to be centered on OL. I sick and tired watching Josh run for his life. I personally think we are in good shape at CB2 as Wallace has had a very good season and Dane has thus far played well too. Of course, that’s assuming a full recovery from Tre too though Quote
JaCrispy Posted December 18, 2021 Posted December 18, 2021 Just now, Alphadawg7 said: I personally think we are in good shape at CB2 as Wallace has had a very good season and Dane has thus far played well too. Of course, that’s assuming a full recovery from Tre too though I believe Wallace is a FA after this season... Quote
Chicken Boo Posted December 18, 2021 Posted December 18, 2021 1 hour ago, Htt2821 said: Raschad White-ASU in the 3rd/4th You have a good eye for RB talent. Quote
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