NFLPA Working to Re-Schedule Browns vs. Raiders Game [update: postponed until Monday, WFT-Eagles and Sea-Rams Tuesday]

[Patrick Duffy]

54 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said:

So the NFL said "Nope, Denver, you made your damned bed, you lied about it, now you lie in the bed you made"

It's weird though that Denver was forced to play because they "lied about things/didn't follow guidelines",  but thinking back at Tenn when Bills were about to play them...didn't they also lie and/or not follow guidelines also and they got basically kind of rewarded lol?? Idk, similar type situation and different results in handling by the league

[Jerome007]

Every team has had lots of vaccinated staff and players get Covid. But I won't get into the obvious elephant in the room... 

 

It simply cries out that testing unvaxxed players daily while doing it weekly for vaxxed ones makes no sense. 3-4x a week for all would be the way to go. Do it daily for all since it's end of season and playoffs. Very simple. Some players and staff will still get it but be isolated more quickly and thus limit the number of positive cases.

[Big Blitz]

 

[Hapless Bills Fan]

 

This is from 12:45 pm.  So saying decision within the next hour, by 2 pm.

 

[Big Blitz]

 

[Hapless Bills Fan]

47 minutes ago, Sheneneh Jenkins said:

It's weird though that Denver was forced to play because they "lied about things/didn't follow guidelines",  but thinking back at Tenn when Bills were about to play them...didn't they also lie and/or not follow guidelines also and they got basically kind of rewarded lol?? Idk, similar type situation and different results in handling by the league

 

So the NFL's investigation concluded that no, the Titans didn't lie or not follow guidelines in a major way - that the info to not practice outside the facility had not been communicated clearly to the players and that's why they got together outside the facility.  It was also the first outbreak, and the NFL changed a lot of their protocols afterwards (required masking and improved ventilation/barriers in the coach's boxes, for example).

 

Now whether that's true or not, can't tell you.

https://apnews.com/article/virus-outbreak-nfl-tennessee-titans-minnesota-vikings-football-52e8fd0470d9b701634b567dcfa11926

 

 

 

[Big Blitz]

There it is

 

 

[Hapless Bills Fan]

19 hours ago, Hapless Bills Fan said:

 

If they're infected, they can infect other players and coaches.  Guys like Ron Rivera, who is immunocompromised because of his cancer treatment, or Bruce Arians who is a 3x cancer survivor, signed up for the season under the premise that the NFL had protocols to prevent intra-facility spread and was committed to that.

 

The time to make a change to the operating principles is NOT 2/3 into the season, IMHO.   I think your implied argument is it's not fair to make teams play without players who are asymptomatic and therefore, not at personal health risk (that may or may not be true, but let's hypothesize it is).  But putting guys like Arians and Rivera at risk isn't fair to them.

 

 

 

He's not wrong

 

OK, I'm going to loop back here.

 

Evidently it was the Browns fault over the sequence of events.

-the Browns are in "enhanced covid protocols"

-teams in "enhanced protocols" are supposed to test everyone, daily, first thing

-the Brownies didn't "get the memo" somehow that they were supposed to test daily, so they let everyone in and let everyone practice

-then their only choice was to test after practice

 

 

("They" in the above tweet is the Brownies)

[Big Blitz]

 

 

 

The only rules you can change apparently 

 

 

The.

 

Rules.  

[boco357]

 

 

@AlbertBreer

Washington staff has been told WFT will play the Eagles at 7 p.m. ET on Tuesday.

Edited December 17, 2021 by boco357

[Big Blitz]

 

The rules can't change 

[CSBill]

This is getting crazy.

[Ed_Formerly_of_Roch]

Does the league know Dawkins is out?

 

I'd think that should warrant a 72 hour delay!

[Dr. K]

4 hours ago, Steptide said:

Wild theory here: any chance (with all these sudden out breaks) that the vaccine could possibly cause a positive test result months later? I'm no Dr by any means, but crazy how all these players who vaccinated are suddenly testing positive

No. You are wrong. The vaccines have nothing to do with it. 

 

But it looks like the season is going down with Covid. This series of outbreaks is not going to go away.

Edited December 17, 2021 by Dr. K

[PetermansRedemption]

7 minutes ago, Dr. K said:

No. You are wrong. The vaccines have nothing to do with it. 

 

But it looks like the season is going down with Covid. This series of outbreaks is not going to go away.

Trust him, he’s a doctor (in my Dr. Pepper commercial voice)

[Big Turk]

Eagles-WFT and Rams-Seahwaks moved to Tuesday also.

[Steptide]

I'm cool with all this

 

Football on Saturday, Sunday, Monday and now apparently Tuesday. 

[zow2]

So how is this fair to the teams that have played through multiple Covid absences this season? Didn’t the Steelers have to pull Ben and Claypool vs Detroit a few weeks ago? among others 

[RalphWilson'sNewWar]

7 minutes ago, zow2 said:

So how is this fair to the teams that have played through multiple Covid absences this season? Didn’t the Steelers have to pull Ben and Claypool vs Detroit a few weeks ago? among others 

It’s not.

 But as long you look at Pro Sports as more Entertainment (like a unscripted reality show) and less super serious athletics…it might help?

[Hapless Bills Fan]

20 minutes ago, PetermansRedemption said:

Trust him, he’s a doctor (in my Dr. Pepper commercial voice)

 

 

8 minutes ago, zow2 said:

So how is this fair to the teams that have played through multiple Covid absences this season? Didn’t the Steelers have to pull Ben and Claypool vs Detroit a few weeks ago? among others 

 

Bottom line up front: It's not fair.  But the difference is, the other teams have played through occasional cases apparently brought in from outside.

These are apparently outbreaks within the team, spread within team facilities by vaccinated players.  The only way to stem that is press "pause" for those teams.

 

As a result, the NFL will make further changes to the Covid protocols, not necessarily sufficient changes, and teams which suffer outbreaks after those changes probably won't get the same consideration.

 

It sucks, and it's not fair, but It Is What It Is.