NFLPA Working to Re-Schedule Browns vs. Raiders Game [update: postponed until Monday, WFT-Eagles and Sea-Rams Tuesday]

[Nextmanup]

 

 

https://factoryofsadness.co/2021/12/15/the-nfl-should-consider-postponing-the-browns-and-raiders-game/

[Steptide]

If they're vaxxed and have no symptoms, just let them play. Is it not obvious to everyone that this isn't gong away 

[MiltonWaddams]

It seems like there are so many holes in what the NFL has been doing, that this reduction of quality on field product was inevitable. Not having daily tests seems downright stupid. They’re not expensive, they could save a lot of peoples health, not to mention they could save players from the impact of having to miss games.

[Nextmanup]

3 minutes ago, MiltonWaddams said:

It seems like there are so many holes in what the NFL has been doing, that this reduction of quality on field product was inevitable. Not having daily tests seems downright stupid. They’re not expensive, they could save a lot of peoples health, not to mention they could save players from the impact of having to miss games.

Paul Hamilton was just on the air calling for the NFL and NHL to straight up shut down for a week.

 

You would think the NFL (more than other leagues) would be able to re-schedule games at this time of year easily, as no one is really using football stadiums for other things.

 

I guess there is not something like 20+ guys on the Cleveland COVID list for Saturday's game.

 

 

 

[Hapless Bills Fan]

20 minutes ago, MiltonWaddams said:

It seems like there are so many holes in what the NFL has been doing, that this reduction of quality on field product was inevitable. Not having daily tests seems downright stupid. They’re not expensive, they could save a lot of peoples health, not to mention they could save players from the impact of having to miss games.

 

This.  The NFL medical staff's argument was that with Delta, testing 1x a week was fine because most players or staff infected with Delta would have symptoms and there were 7x fewer vaccinated than unvaccinated players infected in pre-season with no intra-facility spread.

 

That was Then, This is Now. 

[Hapless Bills Fan]

28 minutes ago, Steptide said:

If they're vaxxed and have no symptoms, just let them play. Is it not obvious to everyone that this isn't gong away 

 

If they're infected, they can infect other players and coaches.  Guys like Ron Rivera, who is immunocompromised because of his cancer treatment, or Bruce Arians who is a 3x cancer survivor, signed up for the season under the premise that the NFL had protocols to prevent intra-facility spread and was committed to that.

 

The time to make a change to the operating principles is NOT 2/3 into the season, IMHO.   I think your implied argument is it's not fair to make teams play without players who are asymptomatic and therefore, not at personal health risk (that may or may not be true, but let's hypothesize it is).  But putting guys like Arians and Rivera at risk isn't fair to them.

 

 

 

He's not wrong

[Hapless Bills Fan]

https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nfl/baker-mayfield-furious-with-nfl-after-browns-positive-tests/ar-AARTlUD

 

NFL still saying no plans to reschedule game

 

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On Thursday afternoon, the NFL announced that it adjusted its COVID-19 health and safety protocols.

 

“Effective immediately, all clubs will implement preventative measures that have proven effective: masking regardless of vaccination status, remote or outdoor meetings, eliminating in-person meals, and no outside visitors while on team travel,” the NFL said. “We will continue to strongly encourage booster shots as the most effective protection. Finally, and based on expert advice, we will adjust the return-to-participation requirements for those who have recovered from COVID-19.”

 

The NFL has said that it won’t move this Saturday’s game between the Browns and Raiders. However, if the Browns’ outbreak continues, they might be left with no choice.

 

[quinnearlysghost88]

MAKE THEM PLAY WITH REPLACEMENTS!!! DO IT! 

[Augie]

48 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said:

 

He's not wrong

 

No, he’s not wrong. He also didn’t go about conveying that in the best possible way. Social media is not his friend. That’s Baker being Baker. I think Josh would have known better. 

[Albany,n.y.]

7 minutes ago, quinnearlysghost88 said:

MAKE THEM PLAY WITH REPLACEMENTS!!! DO IT! 

Or they can have players become 2 way players so they don't need that many.  At the end of the year they gve out the ironman award, like they used to do in Arenaball.  

[frostbitmic]

The Browns should just opt out of Saturday's game... Accept the loss and hope your team recovers quickly.

 

It's too late in the season to rearrange schedules.

[Big Turk]

54 minutes ago, frostbitmic said:

The Browns should just opt out of Saturday's game... Accept the loss and hope your team recovers quickly.

 

It's too late in the season to rearrange schedules.

 

They will never do this because players on neither team would get paid in a forfeit. Raiders would get the W, nobody would get paid.

Edited December 17, 2021 by Big Turk

[Bferra13]

Absolutely not to extending the season another week. You wanna Tuesday then fine. 

[billsfan89]

2 hours ago, Nextmanup said:

Paul Hamilton was just on the air calling for the NFL and NHL to straight up shut down for a week.

 

You would think the NFL (more than other leagues) would be able to re-schedule games at this time of year easily, as no one is really using football stadiums for other things.

 

I guess there is not something like 20+ guys on the Cleveland COVID list for Saturday's game.

 

 

 

The NFL shutting down for a week would be very easy to do. I also think a second bye week would only help the quality of play.

[PetermansRedemption]

6 minutes ago, billsfan89 said:

The NFL shutting down for a week would be very easy to do. I also think a second bye week would only help the quality of play.

I like it. Not a bad idea at all IMO.

[Nextmanup]

39 minutes ago, billsfan89 said:

The NFL shutting down for a week would be very easy to do. I also think a second bye week would only help the quality of play.

If players' health was the first priority, it would absolutely be shut down for a week (or more, within reason).

 

Of course, it's not, so I don't expect a shutdown unless it's absolutely necessary.

 

I think things would have to get substantially worse first, though.

 

 

[Doc]

No rescheduling. I would have liked them to reschedule Bills games where they missed a few players.

[zow2]

40 minutes ago, Doc said:

No rescheduling. I would have liked them to reschedule Bills games where they missed a few players.

 

Yeah agree.  the thing is, it’s real dicey to reschedule one game because it’s not competitively balanced “enough” and not reschedule all the other games.  

So let’s reschedule the Browns because their game matters more to their playoff chances than Washington or the LA Rams games matter to them?!  Nope, can’t do that. 

its like when a team suffers a bunch of injuries. it’s sucks, but the game doesn’t get rescheduled so guys can get healthy. 

[Hapless Bills Fan]

45 minutes ago, zow2 said:

 

Yeah agree.  the thing is, it’s real dicey to reschedule one game because it’s not competitively balanced “enough” and not reschedule all the other games.  

So let’s reschedule the Browns because their game matters more to their playoff chances than Washington or the LA Rams games matter to them?!  Nope, can’t do that. 

its like when a team suffers a bunch of injuries. it’s sucks, but the game doesn’t get rescheduled so guys can get healthy. 

 

You don’t reschedule because of the importance of the game.

 

You reschedule because they’ve got an active outbreak of an contagious disease the NFL went into the season committed to containing.  The implication of some stuff from Allen Stills (CMO) is that they’re seeing intra-facility spread now.  The idea is to get ahead of it before you infect everyone on both teams.

[Sherlock Holmes]

5 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said:

 

You don’t reschedule because of the importance of the game.

 

You reschedule because they’ve got an active outbreak of an contagious disease the NFL went into the season committed to containing.  The implication of some stuff from Allen Stills (CMO) is that they’re seeing intra-facility spread now.  The idea is to get ahead of it before you infect everyone on both teams.

But I have Renfrow and Jacobs in fantasy