SoCal Deek Posted December 15, 2021 Posted December 15, 2021 5 minutes ago, Ethan in Portland said: I agree. I love JA but he missed two TD throws against Pats. Dawkins got blown up in Tenn. I want McDermott gone but I thought he made the right call in Tennessee game. Hated the punt on 4th and 3 against Tampa. 100% agree on pass to Diggs. That was the wrong call. Their defense was gassed. JA could have sat in the pocket all day until someone broke open. Bad decision. Diggs is a great WR but a fade or even a back shoulder is not his route. That is Hopkins or Adams. Same way you don't throw a fade to Tyrese Hill. Diggs is an elite route runner with elite hands. Let him run a real pattern to get open. Likewise, I agree! I've been watching this sport for over 50 years, and I can never understand why Teams don't simply run the play where the entire team slides to the left while the TE fakes a block and then sneaks out the back of the formation to the deep right corner. That play is WIDE OPEN at least 95% of the time! The Bills almost never use it. Quote
Mr. WEO Posted December 15, 2021 Posted December 15, 2021 4 hours ago, PaattMaann said: We have statistically been the unluckiest team in the league (twitter threads about it, dont have time to link here, you can easily find it). 0-5 in one score games No obvious PI calls in crucial game winning situations multiple times We are a couple coin flips away from being 10-3/9-4 I'm not too worried honestly, thems the breaks sometime in the NFL. Just gotta win out and we will likely win the division, and at the very least make the playoffs. Get into the dance and anything can happen. If you are 0-5 in 1 score games, at what point do you begin to consider it's not just "bad luck"? 0-6? 0-8? 1 Quote
Captain Caveman Posted December 15, 2021 Posted December 15, 2021 (edited) 52 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said: If you are 0-5 in 1 score games, at what point do you begin to consider it's not just "bad luck"? 0-6? 0-8? Last year we were 6-1 (I think, including playoffs) in 1 score games, with an almost identical team and coaching staff. So maybe we're just evening out? Honestly though, I think to some extent it can definitely be attributed to luck, I think some of it also can be attributed to poor coaching decisions and bad execution / mistakes by players in crucial situations. In any of the 5 games, you can point to a missed call, or a bad call against us, or an unusually great play made by the other team. In any of the 5 games you can also find a play we didn't make, or a really bad play call that burned us. It all adds up... Edited December 15, 2021 by Captain Caveman 2 1 Quote
nedboy7 Posted December 15, 2021 Posted December 15, 2021 3 hours ago, HamSandwhich said: You all have fun with that, don’t be knocking for the Super Bowl train when we get there. When the train is a rockin’ don’t bother knocking see your way away. it was a joke about the incessant negativity around here. Quote
HamSandwhich Posted December 15, 2021 Posted December 15, 2021 6 minutes ago, nedboy7 said: it was a joke about the incessant negativity around here. You have been part of the negativity since the Pats game Quote
MrSarcasm Posted December 16, 2021 Posted December 16, 2021 Fact is, football isn't an exact game. Fluke ball bounces, fluke weather, and fluke plays all can change a games outcome. Quote
billsfan714 Posted December 16, 2021 Posted December 16, 2021 2 hours ago, Mr. WEO said: If you are 0-5 in 1 score games, at what point do you begin to consider it's not just "bad luck"? 0-6? 0-8? Well if McD doesnt get a couple of Ws soon in close games, its on him. Its a trend that cant continue. 1 Quote
nedboy7 Posted December 16, 2021 Posted December 16, 2021 19 minutes ago, HamSandwhich said: You have been part of the negativity since the Pats game You really need a sandwich. Blood sugar dropping. Quote
HamSandwhich Posted December 16, 2021 Posted December 16, 2021 29 minutes ago, nedboy7 said: You really need a sandwich. Blood sugar dropping. It sandwHich thank you. I suppose you think it’s John Hancock, it’s Herby Hancock…duh! Quote
billieve420 Posted December 16, 2021 Posted December 16, 2021 I think it falls on the QB despite it not being fair but Allen can grow from this. Has not had as good of a year as last year and offense hasn’t been in sync. In 1 score games this year we have been terrible and those are the games he needs to take over and carry team despite shortcomings around him. Those are the type of games that makes a good player great. Quote
JoshAllin Posted December 16, 2021 Posted December 16, 2021 12 fg's in the red zone aren't gonna cut it, that's 8 more than KC. As everyone knows FG's aren't gonna win vs good teams Quote
Motorin' Posted December 16, 2021 Posted December 16, 2021 13 hours ago, motorj said: 12 fg's in the red zone aren't gonna cut it, that's 8 more than KC. As everyone knows FG's aren't gonna win vs good teams Yup, and one more TD in 5 of those games is the difference between 10-1 and 7-6. Quote
MrSarcasm Posted December 16, 2021 Posted December 16, 2021 What only #1 defense and #8 offense. Fire everyone this is unacceptable! Thats how we respond here, right? Quote
Captain Hindsight Posted December 16, 2021 Posted December 16, 2021 20 hours ago, st pete gogolak said: Looked it up. 2010 Chargers were #1 on both offense and defense and finished the year 9 - 7 and out of the playoffs. That, my friends, is hard to do. Thats what this season reminds me of. Just weird bounces and a disappointing season Quote
Call_Of_Ktulu Posted December 16, 2021 Posted December 16, 2021 We are out coached, our O-Line sucks, I wanted to address NT but we just had to give Star another chance to look like dog *****. Edmunds is a China doll and makes me sick to watch. If we get 2 good upgrades on the O-line, get that space eater NT that takes the double team off Oliver and upgrades at MLB and RB we are elite SB contenders. If Allen keeps taking hits he will get injured, he needs to be coached to get yardage and slide. I feel like we have a three year window to win a SB. We have a very slim chance this year but 2022 and 2023 are going to be our best chance. Quote
AmishRifle Posted December 16, 2021 Posted December 16, 2021 I think this all goes back to forcing our guys to hold that Sabres sign as a marketing gimmick. I also think that they’ve approached this season with the wrong mindset. They bought into the hype about themselves and absolutely got punched in the face Week 1 by sleep walking into that game. While the coaching may be suspect I think the players think that they can just turn it on and off. The reality is they can’t. It’s in their heads. It’s in their preparation. It’s in their execution. I don’t know why but I think that’s the problem. Quote
st pete gogolak Posted December 16, 2021 Author Posted December 16, 2021 5 hours ago, Captain Hindsight said: Thats what this season reminds me of. Just weird bounces and a disappointing season Thanks for posting this. Really interesting video. It shows that the Chargers' special teams were historically bad. Consecutive punts blocked? Are you kidding me? What's interesting is that the Bills haven't had anywhere near that type of performance on special teams. It's not being able to score TD's in the Red Zone for sure, which is a result of not being able to run the ball. Still, two wins out of five in one score games puts you at 9 - 4 and leading the AFC. I can't remember being as disappointed in a season as this one. Even the 2 - 14 seasons in the 80's. Maybe the nightmare of losing to Belichick and Brady on consecutive weeks is the cause. At this point, 10 - 7 and one upset win in the playoffs would be reasonable. Think about how that would have gone over with the fanbase before the season started. Quote
SoCal Deek Posted December 16, 2021 Posted December 16, 2021 The issue is NOT one-score losses. That stat is just the final score. There's a big difference between a game where we score a meaningless touchdown or field goal to make a game look closer than it really was. The problem with the 2021 Bills has been the inability of the Offense to score on the final possession DEEP in the opponent's Red Zone. Period. Quote
st pete gogolak Posted December 16, 2021 Author Posted December 16, 2021 30 minutes ago, SoCal Deek said: The issue is NOT one-score losses. That stat is just the final score. There's a big difference between a game where we score a meaningless touchdown or field goal to make a game look closer than it really was. The problem with the 2021 Bills has been the inability of the Offense to score on the final possession DEEP in the opponent's Red Zone. Period. Agreed. There's legitimate one score losses and bogus one score losses. The Steelers game is closer to the latter than the former. You're absolutely right that the mind blowing thing about the losses this year is that Titans, Pats and Bucs are absolutely agonizing losses where we are deep in the Red Zone with legitimate chances to win the game. Even JAX, we are a Gabriel Davis drop (someone who doesn't drop a lot of passes) from being in FG range to at a minimum send it into overtime. 1 Quote
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