Richard Noggin Posted December 15, 2021 Posted December 15, 2021 6 hours ago, Generic_Bills_Fan said: Pats is such a weird game to me…maybe I’m the only person that thinks this and feel free to flame away lol but I don’t think their offense was effective at all when it came to the scoreboard. If you commit to the run all game long you’re obviously gonna rip off big runs occasionally. But the pats left the door open for our offense to win the game time and time again and we absolutely sh*t the bed in the red zone/kicking fgs/diggs losing a sure td in the air that hit him perfectly in stride/Knox not being able to make a play/Breidas comically bad fumble in scoring range…we just blew absolutely everything and still had a game winning drive attempt. I think bill miscalculated badly thinking we wouldn’t be able to move the ball through the air into the wind and we bailed him out. We did everything you just can’t do against a team built like the pats in literally the first 5 minutes of the game and they still let us hang around all night You likely won't get much support for this perspective, but the defense did its job without question. 14 points. The end. The offense failed. The defense even got timely stops in the 4th quarter to facilitate a comeback, but the offense fell short. That's the failure of 2021 so far. I don't care about the rushing defense. I care about the offense that can't score more than 14, or 9, or capitalize on red zone opportunities. Oh yeah, and the refs. They suck the most. Quote
GunnerBill Posted December 15, 2021 Posted December 15, 2021 9 hours ago, Ethan in Portland said: How can you say the defense is good? Look at the teams and the QBs they have played. If you said we don't know if the defense is any good or not I would buy that. Because they do make stops from time to time. They forced only two turnovers against Pittsburgh, Tenn, Pats, Jax, and Tampa. Special teams got a turnover and there was a turnover on downs against Tampa. Otherwise most of the stat padding has been against garbage teams and even worse QBs. They held the Pats to 14. The Jags to 9 and Pitt to 16 (the other points coming as a result of the blocked punt). The offense lost us all 3 of those games. The two bad games the D has had were Tennessee and Indy and yes, they match up poorly against those two teams. It is a matchup league and you can't be built to stop everyone in this day and age. The problem is the offense. 1 Quote
GunnerBill Posted December 15, 2021 Posted December 15, 2021 2 hours ago, Richard Noggin said: This is an important point, HOWEVER...I do believe McD wants his guys (especially LBs) to attack plays more aggressively than they often do right now. Naturally my most recent example is McD, NOT Frazier, pulling Milano aside late against NE, and the result being Milano just screaming through the gaps created by NE's pulling linemen for big TFLs. You could clearly see McD gesturing to Milano to run through the gaps aggressively. You gotta get there before the blocks do to disrupt well-designed plays. If you hesitate or take a false step, you allow the offense to get on top of you. (This ain't a 2-gap defensive front, that's for sure. But they almost seem to play like one at times.) But also think back to when McD allegedly took over play-calling duties (I can't immediately recall when it happened but I know my fellow posters remember): the D ABSOLUTELY attacked more with McD calling the shots in-game. Of course that doesn't mean they called more blitzes and lighter coverage schemes exactly, but it does suggest that McD emphasizes aggression and disruption within the structure of the overall defense. Does that make sense at all? I think so... Leslie can, when he gets in a rut, get a bit conservative in his calls. There are also times when I feel (and I get this is my bias showing in the same way as the blitz fans show theirs) he gets impatient and calls poorly timed blitzes. He isn't perfect. But he is a darn good defensive coordinator and his rankings back that up. He is here because he understands and runs Sean McDermott's defense. McDermott took over the playcalling once, that Chargers game where Vontae quit at half time. I think the whole team was in a bit of a mess at that point and it was designed to create a reaction. 1 Quote
Southern_Bills Posted December 15, 2021 Posted December 15, 2021 They held Tampa to 27 in regulation, they held the Patriots to 14. Score more points, the Diggs 3 and 2 play should have been a game winner. I get it, they are losing and it sucks. That doesn't mean burn down the building and start over. Daboll would go way before Frasier. 2 Quote
Real McClappy Posted December 15, 2021 Posted December 15, 2021 One of our biggest beefs with coaching in the past was not making proper half time adjustments. Frazier and our D in back to back weeks have made outstanding adjustments allowing only 6pts (not counting OT) in 2nd half play giving our team opportunity to win. 2 Quote
BobbyC81 Posted December 15, 2021 Posted December 15, 2021 14 hours ago, Nextmanup said: I don't think we are the only team that has to do it; I think both teams make adjustments in every game. They should, unless everything is going so well they feel there is no need to make an adjustment, but that seems unlikely. That brings to mind the infamous Hank Bullough. That was back before NFL Season Ticket so I didn’t get to see many games but there were so many games with him as coach where they had good halftime leads, like 17-3 and the opponent would obviously make adjustments and win 20-17. My thoughts were exactly that he must’ve thought they were doing good so no adjustments necessary. Quote
Bigantall Posted December 15, 2021 Posted December 15, 2021 17 hours ago, No Place To Hyde said: In today's day and age with all the Tablets and instant access to data...if you wait until halftime to make adjustments you are already 2 quarters behind. There are teams that make adjustments on the fly and make tweaks all game long. Did you stop to think they may not have the personnel to make those kind of changes you or l have no idea the mental make up of our team Quote
SoCal Deek Posted December 15, 2021 Posted December 15, 2021 People. This season isn’t complicated. The Bills have been in position to win three games inside the TEN YARD LINE on the final possession and have missed on it all three times! Score on those three possessions and they have the best record in football. And that doesn’t even count the Jaguars game in which they were on the plus side of the 50 with a chance to win or tie. 1 1 Quote
BuffaloBillyG Posted December 15, 2021 Posted December 15, 2021 18 minutes ago, Bigantall said: Did you stop to think they may not have the personnel to make those kind of changes you or l have no idea the mental make up of our team Are you inferring the players aren't intelligent enough to comprehend tweaks to the gameplan? Quote
3rdand12 Posted December 17, 2021 Posted December 17, 2021 On 12/14/2021 at 7:22 PM, Sheneneh Jenkins said: Hard to keep defensive position when getting picked. Lot of times I've seen some where the defender is focused on covering his WR and doesn't notice the pick coming and runs straight into a brick wall. And some get hurt from it. Brady when with Pats offense made a living off those pick plays and now with Bucs. Anyways, even with the pick I'm not sure why there was no help at all on that side. Unless the safeties had all there attention on Evans and Gronk/Goodwin? IDK Not like the world does not know how Brady butters his bread Rubs and picks Quote
RaoulDuke79 Posted December 17, 2021 Posted December 17, 2021 On 12/14/2021 at 3:14 PM, GunnerBill said: You think McDermott is gonna call more blitzes? Go watch his Carolina teams. That is not what they did. The Bills defense is good. The only people who want to change it are people who simply prefer defense played a certain style that McDermott and Frazier don't believe in. Against teams that can't run. Quote
3rdand12 Posted December 17, 2021 Posted December 17, 2021 forgot to send this ^ The defense can adjust The Coaching overall is very good The front seven need to be effective and the front four even more so. I am sure we are seeing player frustrations from Poyer and Hyde leading to risk taking. Which cannot happen. Especially from Hyde when he is playing over. Be it run or pass. Discipline and execution are a pre requisite for this defense The Offense is another story altogether Go Bills Quote
T master Posted December 18, 2021 Posted December 18, 2021 On 12/14/2021 at 1:49 PM, Nextmanup said: Not only that, but he makes them with a little miniature golf scorecard pencil on what appears to be a blank mailing envelope! I love that...it's how I do things myself. Not a lot of tech going on in my life. Funny how a pencil and an envelope can take down the best teams in football. It's all about what you are writing down on the envelope. (Not the right pencil or paper from my comments, but how many times have you seen BB doing this on the sideline during the game?) Lets see what the cancel culture has to say about his old school way of coaching the only reason why they would want to cancel him is so he quits beating their team ... Quote
LyndonvilleBill Posted December 18, 2021 Posted December 18, 2021 (edited) On 12/14/2021 at 5:35 PM, Since1981 said: I remember other QBs frantically on the sidelines talking to coordinators between series. Flutie used to talk about how they were setting up player #XX for the next series. Flutie used to explain how series connected. I liked that. Maybe we don’t see it or it doesn’t happen?? Josh sitting helmet off sunbathing on the bench? So couldn’t the offense and defense be chatting between series? ‘course Brady does it real-time… I think along the same line. Just something about face to face instead of a phone. I know there was debate a year or so back about Daboll in the box versus sideline. McDermott can get face to face with Frazier and they can adjust. I think it's time to get Daboll back on the sideline to get that game time, face time with Josh as well as to get McDermott side by side with Daboll. I want to see McDermott get in the grill of Daboll and Frazier during the game if/when adjustments are needed. Not wait until halftime. Anyone know how many offensive play callers are on the sideline versus the box? Edited December 18, 2021 by LyndonvilleBill Quote
TheyCallMeAndy Posted December 18, 2021 Posted December 18, 2021 On 12/14/2021 at 2:52 PM, BuffaloRebound said: He seems like a guy the players respect and his defense is effective but he’s probably better suited for a rebuild as a Head Coach or DC at this point. Bring some stability to a flailing franchise. McD has also taken over the defense several times when he’s unhappy with their performance. Quote
frostbitmic Posted December 18, 2021 Posted December 18, 2021 On 12/14/2021 at 2:49 PM, Nextmanup said: Not only that, but he makes them with a little miniature golf scorecard pencil on what appears to be a blank mailing envelope! I love that...it's how I do things myself. Not a lot of tech going on in my life. Funny how a pencil and an envelope can take down the best teams in football. It's all about what you are writing down on the envelope. (Not the right pencil or paper from my comments, but how many times have you seen BB doing this on the sideline during the game?) The man writes checks to the refs using a pencil ? Quote
BigDingus Posted December 18, 2021 Posted December 18, 2021 On 12/14/2021 at 2:03 PM, dwight in philly said: I think we need to get up on a team.. This year not many games where we had a lead to protect.. come from behind.. , close games.. We have a tendency to focus so much on defensive failures because they're so obvious, but often overlook so much of what the offense fails to do that puts us in these holes too. Our redzone failures have been HUGE. We see it every game, and often, it's repeatedly wasting those 1st & goal situations that cost us the game. Not only could those missed points be enough to win us some games, they'd also allow us to play with a lead, put opponents in a huge hole, & negating our need for dramatic comebacks. 1 Quote
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