First offensive play of game…

[RichRiderBills]

Sorry there's no criticism of Josh here. Blame Daboll.

 

The play was basically designed to go to the flat. The DB did not bite on the deep route. This is what we were doing to substitute for the running game short passes in the first half... it didn't quite work out , sure but Josh was going to that screen the whole time.

 

The notion of him pump faking and seeing the open guy in the mere seconds he had is unlikely. 

Edited December 15, 2021 by RichRiderBills

[RichRiderBills]

5 hours ago, Ethan in Portland said:

That play to throw to the back may have been scripted just to set up other stuff later.  JA has no pressure so there is no reason for the dump off other than that was the plan all the way.  Sure looks like something they should try again but the problem is Davis doesn't have the speed Sander has.  If you try that with Diggs the safety probably rotates over.  Davis is fast enough and he blocks down field well. So you may get the corner to bite if JA fakes a pass to the flat first at the same time Davis does a stop and go.  

 

I agree here. The play should have been good for a few yards, it's a run sub pass.

 

Later on you run it again on a similar down, but this time targeting the deep route. Set up. Could have been money. 

 

I don't mind the concept at all. Just executed off...and good play by DB.

[JoshAllin]

10 minutes ago, RichRiderBills said:

Sorry there's no criticism of Josh here. Blame Daboll.

 

The play was basically designed to go to the flat. The DB did not bite on the deep route. This is what we were doing to substitute for the running game short passes in the first half... it didn't quite work out , sure but Josh was going to that screen the whole time.

 

The notion of him pump faking and seeing the open guy in the mere seconds he had is unlikely. 

I'd say it's more Josh not having much confidence in the OL he may have felt pressure on the side. Last year this would be a td for him

[Utah John]

2 hours ago, Andy1 said:

This is the last step in his development. This is where Brady beats everyone. Understanding and winning the mental side to maximize his effectiveness. 

OK, but understand that Brady has about 20 years more experience than Josh.  And Brady is freakin' smart.  Not that Josh is a dummy, but I don't think I've ever seen a QB like Brady for his football IQ.

[Old Coot]

Probably film study by the DB.  As far as I can remember when Josh looks to dump off its never a fake so the DB knows that as soon as Josh looks to dump off he can come up on the RB.

[Lieutenant Aldo Raine]

Yeah, that's stinks, but you also have to know that Josh keeps getting drilled into his head to take what the defense gives you.  So, at the beginning of the game, you can see that's what he is probably thinking. 

[TUBSTER]

9 hours ago, motorj said:

Also is Allen reverting to a checkdown mentality? He threw way too much to the RB's this game when he should be looking deep like he usually does seems uncharacteristic

Just watch Teddy Bridgewater for one game and you'll never complain again about how often a QB checks down.

[reddogblitz]

Looked to me like the whole point of the play was to throw that quick pass out to Singletary with room to run.  All the other receivers run patterns to the other side of the field.  Except Sanders goes long hoping to take the DB with him.  Josh drops back and looks right tor a split second and then looks left and hits Singletary.  The play only gets 1 yard cuz the DB didn't buy it and came in to make the tackle.

 

We ran several plays like that early on.

Edited December 15, 2021 by reddogblitz

[maddenboy]

18 hours ago, Generic_Bills_Fan said:

Heads up play by the defender…stayed with the receiver long enough so that josh moved on in his progressions to the correct read and then broke on it early…that’s a potentially big gain for the rb if the db stays with his man 

maybe this is an area where JA17 can improve.

 

He has the defense in a no-win situation.  We get a big play either way, with a little vet patience.  Maybe a pump fake to make that defender choose.

 

Possibly this is also what we will get when we upgrade the pass blocking.  But while JA17 is our qb of the future, he still has room to improve.  

[HoofHearted]

20 hours ago, BillsMafi$ said:

 

This first play was a set up for the same look we showed later and threw it to Gabe Davis over the backers head.