Another Fan Posted December 14, 2021 Posted December 14, 2021 (edited) I still remember those Giant teams well as they were local. 10-6 in 2007 and 9-7 in 2011. So like the Bills this year they were decent teams but turned it on at the right time to go on epic playoff runs to win the Super Bowl. Giants had a bad loss in the middle of the 2007 season against Minnesota where there fans thought Eli was a bust. But had a very respectable last game of the year versus the undefeated Pats where they got momentum. Then one Giant loss in the Super Bowl! So why can’t this loss to the Bucs propel the team going forward? Also Giants we’re 7-7 in 2011 and underachieving before everybody’s favorite big mouthed ex coach inspired them to not only beat the Jets but propelled them through another epic Super Bowl run. So why not the Bills? Everybody loves Josh. I think he has it in him to lead a Super Bowl run. He’s being certainly compensated as that The Man. so yeah I Billieve Edited December 14, 2021 by Another Fan 2 Quote
That's No Moon Posted December 14, 2021 Posted December 14, 2021 I have some unique investment opportunities you may be highly interested in. 1 4 Quote
strive_for_five_guy Posted December 14, 2021 Posted December 14, 2021 Because of Josh, I think the Bills are a very dangerous team in any given game at this point in his career, similar to how I’ve looked at guys like Aaron Rodgers or Drew Brees throughout their careers. Nobody likes playing against Rodgers when he is on. If a QB and supporting cast get hot at the right time, they can make a run (Kurt Warner, Nick Foles, etc to name other examples). 3 Quote
Frostbite Posted December 14, 2021 Posted December 14, 2021 I like to think so and then I remember how bad our lines are. The Giants had a dominant d-line. We don't. As good as Josh is, he alone can't carry us to a superbowl. 1 Quote
NoHuddleKelly12 Posted December 14, 2021 Posted December 14, 2021 1 minute ago, Frostbite said: I like to think so and then I remember how bad our lines are. The Giants had a dominant d-line. We don't. As good as Josh is, he alone can't carry us to a superbowl. But I’d take Josh over Eli any day of the week and 2x on Sundays—so evens out? Quote
Greg S Posted December 14, 2021 Posted December 14, 2021 (edited) Those Giants teams could get after the QB with their front 4. Guys like Strahan, Umenyiora, Tuck just to name a few. It was one of the main reasons they were able to beat the evil empire twice on the biggest stage. They made Brady's life uncomfortable in both games. Edited December 14, 2021 by Greg S 3 1 Quote
Generic_Bills_Fan Posted December 14, 2021 Posted December 14, 2021 (edited) Or 2020 buccaneers haha were not getting that suspect call in the afc championship that the packers got screwed by in the nfc championship though 😂 so we’ll have to be a little better than the bucs last year lol 21 minutes ago, That's No Moon said: I have some unique investment opportunities you may be highly interested in. Haha I could see this side of it too…but the afc being as wide open as it is I’d say it’s possible. If we were in the nfc playoffs heck no. Pats are the current 1 seed and I think we’ve got a 50/50 shot against them each time we play. We’ve got a more talented roster but they’ve got the coaching. We already beat the chiefs once and this is gonna be controversial but we did enough to beat the bucs Sunday in my opinion…lost a close one against the Derrick Henry led titans gotta think we win that one relatively easily if he doesn’t play. Lamar may be hurt and the ravens have looked as bad as us or worse at times…they’ve just gotten much luckier than us. So it’s certainly not impossible but it obviously hinges on us being more consistent Edited December 14, 2021 by Generic_Bills_Fan Quote
Generic_Bills_Fan Posted December 14, 2021 Posted December 14, 2021 9 minutes ago, NoHuddleKelly12 said: But I’d take Josh over Eli any day of the week and 2x on Sundays—so evens out? Me too obviously but Eli was totally underrated in those playoffs…just for the record 🤣 Quote
corta765 Posted December 14, 2021 Posted December 14, 2021 If there is a team I see them to it is the 2010 Packers that won the title. Quote
JoshAllin Posted December 14, 2021 Posted December 14, 2021 The bills were favored as high as tampa to win the sb at one point this season so I still don't see why not if they get hot Quote
billsfan89 Posted December 14, 2021 Posted December 14, 2021 No one in the AFC screams unbeatable to me as a fan. Yes likely going on the road the whole way will not be easy but I don’t see a juggernaut out there in the conference. If the Bills can get their lines healthy and right I don’t see why they can’t make noise in the playoffs. But winning 3 road games is a tall task. Quote
Cheektowaga Chad Posted December 14, 2021 Posted December 14, 2021 You have one of the best qbs in the league Its very possible Quote
Aikman Posted December 14, 2021 Posted December 14, 2021 57 minutes ago, Another Fan said: I still remember those Giant teams well as they were local. 10-6 in 2007 and 9-7 in 2011. So like the Bills this year they were decent teams but turned it on at the right time to go on epic playoff runs to win the Super Bowl. Giants had a bad loss in the middle of the 2007 season against Minnesota where there fans thought Eli was a bust. But had a very respectable last game of the year versus the undefeated Pats where they got momentum. Then one Giant loss in the Super Bowl! So why can’t this loss to the Bucs propel the team going forward? Also Giants we’re 7-7 in 2011 and underachieving before everybody’s favorite big mouthed ex coach inspired them to not only beat the Jets but propelled them through another epic Super Bowl run. So why not the Bills? Everybody loves Josh. I think he has it in him to lead a Super Bowl run. He’s being certainly compensated as that The Man. so yeah I Billieve Allen has led them to a 7-6 record while playing a cupcake schedule. Why in the world is this guy all of a sudden going to run the table against playoff teams when his record against teams at .500 or better is 1-5 ????(the one win coming against a KC team that was a shell of what it is today) 1 Quote
Another Fan Posted December 14, 2021 Author Posted December 14, 2021 1 minute ago, Aikman said: Allen has led them to a 7-6 record while playing a cupcake schedule. Why in the world is this guy all of a sudden going to run the table against playoff teams when his record against teams at .500 or better is 1-5 ????(the one win coming against a KC team that was a shell of what it is today) If he’s the QB we all seem to think he is and is being compensated as such…. he should Quote
Solomon Grundy Posted December 14, 2021 Posted December 14, 2021 1 hour ago, Another Fan said: I still remember those Giant teams well as they were local. 10-6 in 2007 and 9-7 in 2011. So like the Bills this year they were decent teams but turned it on at the right time to go on epic playoff runs to win the Super Bowl. Giants had a bad loss in the middle of the 2007 season against Minnesota where there fans thought Eli was a bust. But had a very respectable last game of the year versus the undefeated Pats where they got momentum. Then one Giant loss in the Super Bowl! So why can’t this loss to the Bucs propel the team going forward? Also Giants we’re 7-7 in 2011 and underachieving before everybody’s favorite big mouthed ex coach inspired them to not only beat the Jets but propelled them through another epic Super Bowl run. So why not the Bills? Everybody loves Josh. I think he has it in him to lead a Super Bowl run. He’s being certainly compensated as that The Man. so yeah I Billieve I’m thinking the same thing!! It’s all about when you get hot!! Quote
dorquemada Posted December 14, 2021 Posted December 14, 2021 This version of the Bills cant win close games. This version of the Bills also can't play a 60 minute game to save their lives. We either see them come into a game shot out of a cannon, get a lead then fade over the strech but still win, or we see them not show up until mid 3rd quarter then have a furious effort that falls short in the end. They aren't mentally strong enough to endure the playoffs Quote
Nextmanup Posted December 14, 2021 Posted December 14, 2021 1 hour ago, Generic_Bills_Fan said: Me too obviously but Eli was totally underrated in those playoffs…just for the record 🤣 Only at a Bills forum would the guy who takes down BB, Tom Brady, and the "Cheatriots" not once, but TWICE in the BIGGEST GAME OF THEM ALL be mocked as somehow being "no good." If only we had such losers quarterbacking our teams! 1 hour ago, Another Fan said: I still remember those Giant teams well as they were local. 10-6 in 2007 and 9-7 in 2011. So like the Bills this year they were decent teams but turned it on at the right time to go on epic playoff runs to win the Super Bowl. Giants had a bad loss in the middle of the 2007 season against Minnesota where there fans thought Eli was a bust. But had a very respectable last game of the year versus the undefeated Pats where they got momentum. Then one Giant loss in the Super Bowl! So why can’t this loss to the Bucs propel the team going forward? Also Giants we’re 7-7 in 2011 and underachieving before everybody’s favorite big mouthed ex coach inspired them to not only beat the Jets but propelled them through another epic Super Bowl run. So why not the Bills? Everybody loves Josh. I think he has it in him to lead a Super Bowl run. He’s being certainly compensated as that The Man. so yeah I Billieve Those 2 teams and years are just a couple examples of a team getting hot at the right time and going on a short run. Keep in mind winning a Super Bowl is not that hard IMO...massively easier than winning a Stanley Cup, for example. You don't need to be playing excellent football every other night for a month and a half, while avoiding the injury bug, to get to where you are going. Win a few games and you are in the big dance...once there, focus, and get it done. Sure the Bills can go on a run, maybe starting this week...or even with the 2nd half of the Tampa game! In fact, I can see that now. In about 3 weeks, people are going to say "Since that second half of the game in Tampa, this Bills team has been different." Let's go! 2 Quote
LABILLBACKER Posted December 14, 2021 Posted December 14, 2021 No, those Giant teams had better trenches than us. We'll go 10-7 and barely sneak into the playoffs. But the goal is Lombardi and our OL will not sustain this. Quote
Generic_Bills_Fan Posted December 14, 2021 Posted December 14, 2021 (edited) 13 minutes ago, Nextmanup said: Only at a Bills forum would the guy who takes down BB, Tom Brady, and the "Cheatriots" not once, but TWICE in the BIGGEST GAME OF THEM ALL be mocked as somehow being "no good." If only we had such losers quarterbacking our teams! Those 2 teams and years are just a couple examples of a team getting hot at the right time and going on a short run. Keep in mind winning a Super Bowl is not that hard IMO...massively easier than winning a Stanley Cup, for example. You don't need to be playing excellent football every other night for a month and a half, while avoiding the injury bug, to get to where you are going. Win a few games and you are in the big dance...once there, focus, and get it done. Sure the Bills can go on a run, maybe starting this week...or even with the 2nd half of the Tampa game! In fact, I can see that now. In about 3 weeks, people are going to say "Since that second half of the game in Tampa, this Bills team has been different." Let's go! It’s certainly set up well for us to have a chance…pats are far from unbeatable and they are the best team in the conference right now. Titans and ravens have had a bunch of huge injuries. If we were in the nfc playoffs I wouldn’t be holding out hope but you never know with the afc this season. Could be anybodys game. It’s a bunch of good but not quite powerhouse teams Edited December 14, 2021 by Generic_Bills_Fan Quote
Nextmanup Posted December 14, 2021 Posted December 14, 2021 11 minutes ago, LABILLBACKER said: No, those Giant teams had better trenches than us. We'll go 10-7 and barely sneak into the playoffs. But the goal is Lombardi and our OL will not sustain this. I never felt like actually winning the SB was a viable goal for this season. Even before this season turned into this season (and current record) it felt like we are still a work in progress. I do think we will "barely sneak into the playoffs" but that's quite OK. It's about what we do once there. Let's say we are the #7 seed....we will be the #7 seed that NO ONE wants to play. Because no one will know when we snap into form and throw 30+ on the board. 1 Quote
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