Game Week: Week 15 Carolina Panthers at Bills thread

[Mat68]

3 minutes ago, Logic said:

I'm personally hoping Beane gets on the horn to his old buddy Gettleman (if he's still in NJ come March) and trades for Saquon Barkley. Dude is still just 24 years old.

The Giants have him stuck in an ancient offensive scheme with no creativity. Get him in here, rebuild his confidence, and move him around the field like the deadly weapon he is. Let's see if defenses still want to go two-high all game when Barkley is the short outlet in the passing game.

Gettleman wont trade Barkley. If Gettleman is fired might have a shot.  As a diehard PSU fan, what is he actually worth at this point?  

[Logic]

Just now, Greg S said:

 

NO NO NO. Damaged goods. I live in NJ so I see a lot of the Giants. Barkley is not the player he was in college.

 
I respectfully disagree that he isn't and can't still be a very good player.

The Giants' offensive line is absolutely atrocious and their scheme is dinosaur nonsense. They don't split Barkley out into the slot or out wide, match him up against linebackers, or basically put any effort into actually using him as a weapon in the passing game. The run game is INCREDIBLY uncreative. Their passing game is no threat at all, so opposing defenses can stack the box all day long and easily stymie the Giants' awful, stale running game. I maintain that he could do damage in the Bills' offense.

Anyway, I'm not saying we should trade a 1st for him or anything. If the price is right, though, I'm in favor of it.

[Greg S]

18 minutes ago, Mat68 said:

Gettleman wont trade Barkley. If Gettleman is fired might have a shot.  As a diehard PSU fan, what is he actually worth at this point?  

 

Here in the NYC area it been reported that Gettleman is going to retire after this season. 

[Dablitzkrieg]

 

 

[Whkfc]

Color rush this week. So break out your reds.

[Logic]

I would sure love it if the Bills could build a big lead in the first half and then sit Josh for the entire second half.

[Mat68]

Protect Josh in the pocket.  Probably play Moss more than you would like.  Brieda cant block.  He cant be on the field.  Quick underneath passing game will be the ticket.

[Stank_Nasty]

So this lacks context and I’m sure there are other factors afoot but…. Yikes. 

[Mat68]

8 minutes ago, Stank_Nasty said:

So this lacks context and I’m sure there are other factors afoot but…. Yikes. 

Data was slightly manipulated. All flags regardless of being accepted Allen is at 44%.  Still high.  I think the offense and wrs need to get over it.  Go make the play.  The offense at times is playing for the flag instead of just playing.  Like the plays they feel they catch the d Offside.  You don't have to throw it in triple coverage every time.  Yes, its a free play but still get the most yards available to be had.

Edited December 15, 2021 by Mat68

[LABILLBACKER]

56 minutes ago, Greg S said:

 

NO NO NO. Damaged goods. I live in NJ so I see a lot of the Giants. Barkley is not the player he was in college.

Overhyped guys like Barkley and Elliott just haven't had the impact people expected. 

[YoloinOhio]

 

 

 

[Bangarang]

Did BB and McD even have a plan for Basham when they drafted him?

 

2nd round draft picks should be guys seeing the field regularly. It looks like mismanagement of resources more than anything. 

[LABILLBACKER]

11 minutes ago, Bangarang said:

Did BB and McD even have a plan for Basham when they drafted him?

 

2nd round draft picks should be guys seeing the field regularly. It looks like mismanagement of resources more than anything. 

Look how little AJ played his rookie year.  We gotta get more Immediate impact from our 1st and 2nd round picks. Hell we're still waiting for "raw and forever young" Edmunds to pan out? 

[Scott7975]

2 hours ago, Dablitzkrieg said:

Bet the over on flags FOR PI in the Bills' favor this week.   Reactive league

 

I've conspiracy thought about this lol.  This will be the week the Bills get some PI calls so it can look like it "evens out."

1 hour ago, Stank_Nasty said:

So this lacks context and I’m sure there are other factors afoot but…. Yikes. 

 

Either we way over rate our receivers and they are easily covered or the NFL is blind either on purpose or for real medical reasons.  Thats disgusting.

[Logic]

Didn't see this mentioned yet in this thread, but...

Panthers QB Sam Darnold has been activated from IR and will practice today.

It's possible we don't see the Walker/Newton poo-poo platter on Sunday, but instead see Sam Darnold.

I realize that the Panthers offense is hot garbage right now and the Bills have no excuses this Sunday, but....having to prepare for three different quarterbacks is not exactly ideal.

[PaattMaann]

17 minutes ago, Logic said:

Didn't see this mentioned yet in this thread, but...

Panthers QB Sam Darnold has been activated from IR and will practice today.

It's possible we don't see the Walker/Newton poo-poo platter on Sunday, but instead see Sam Darnold.

I realize that the Panthers offense is hot garbage right now and the Bills have no excuses this Sunday, but....having to prepare for three different quarterbacks is not exactly ideal.

 

Panthers already ruled him out for this week despite activating him 

 

* I should say, Matt Rhule said Darnold "is not a factor right now" and itll be Newton and Walker this week. 

Edited December 15, 2021 by PaattMaann

[YoloinOhio]

 

 

 

 

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[clayboy54]

1 hour ago, Bangarang said:

Did BB and McD even have a plan for Basham when they drafted him?

 

2nd round draft picks should be guys seeing the field regularly. It looks like mismanagement of resources more than anything. 

I think they made it abundantly clear early that he would be redshirted for the most part this year.

23 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said:

 

 

 

Why is Josh wearing a Jets jersey? LOL

[Boatdrinks]

I think the Bills are just keeping Carolina guessing with this....Allen plays Sunday. And yes this is the week that the Bills will benefit from some calls on the Carolina defense. The flags will stay firmly in pocket the following week at NE. Don’t be surprised if NE isn’t flagged for a single DPI / holding or an offensive hold of consequence in that game. Maybe not even at all.