Insane Stat of the Day Josh Allen.

[OP Blue]

41 minutes ago, Gene1973 said:

That's what happens when you don't have a true RB1

And that is why he's injured now.

 

Running QBs all get hurt eventually.

[MAJBobby]

Just now, Mr. WEO said:

 

With RB, just have to hit on one player, not 5.  Plus a great RB can run with a mediocre line.

How many RBs do anything with a ***** OL?

[Matt_In_NH]

2 minutes ago, MAJBobby said:

 

Minus the ***** OL

 

Yeah there is that......something is different this year vs last though.   These same guys pass blocked better last year.

[MAJBobby]

1 minute ago, Nextmanup said:

For some reason, people think RBs exist in their own bubble out on the field.

 

Good ones get big runs, bad ones don't.

 

Big runs almost always equate to "huge holes" and the RB has nothing to do with that.

 

 

Not to mention McD and Daboll keeping their best blocking WR on the Bench all season in Gabe Davis.  and yet cry when Rbs getting 4 yards, well you have OL that cannot get to the second level and you have your stud blocking WR on the bench.

1 minute ago, OP Blue said:

And that is why he's injured now.

 

Running QBs all get hurt eventually.

You know QBs have a much higher chance of getting hurt in the pocket than running.  

[Matt_In_NH]

Just now, Gene1973 said:

Right. But I think the fact they have not desired a true RB1 is a mistake they have made, and we're seeing to consequences of that mistake this season. A 100% pass offense with the QB as the only running threat is proving to be unsustainable.

Agreed!  I think this gets addressed in a big way going into next year.

[thenorthremembers]

1 minute ago, OP Blue said:

And that is why he's injured now.

 

Running QBs all get hurt eventually.

All QBs eventually get hurt.   All football players, eventually get hurt.    The statistics show that a Quarterback is more likely to get hurt in the pocket than he is running the ball.    I am pretty sure if you go back to the game thats exactly what happened.   If I recall he seemed to hurt his ankle and foot on a sack he took in the pocket.

[Freddie's Dead]

27 minutes ago, TheyCallMeAndy said:

I’d also love to see how many QBs have thrown for 300 yards and rushed for 100

 

4.  Josh, Cam, Russ, and Lamar.

[MAJBobby]

2 minutes ago, mattynh said:

 

Yeah there is that......something is different this year vs last though.   These same guys pass blocked better last year.

Did they?  OR more likely Teams playing allen Differently this year.  Josh covered alot of their flaws in the OL last year too.

[Mr. WEO]

14 minutes ago, MAJBobby said:

How many RBs do anything with a ***** OL?

 

So, since Thurman, the Bills have always had a *****OL?

 

 

[Motorin']

18 minutes ago, mattynh said:

 

I guess talent wise I understand what you are saying but if you put Thurman on the team, do you want to run more than we do now and pass more to RB's than we do now, that will take touches from Knox/Diggs/Sanders/etc.

 

If you add Josh's + Moss + Brieda you get 170 runs so far this year.

 

If we had a true #1 he'd take some of Singelary's 112 carries, all of Moss and Briedas, and 80% of Josh's. 

 

With better run blocking and a true #1 RB we can run no more than we have, be top 10 in the league in rushing, and take away most of the hits Josh takes.

15 minutes ago, thenorthremembers said:

All QBs eventually get hurt.   All football players, eventually get hurt.    The statistics show that a Quarterback is more likely to get hurt in the pocket than he is running the ball.    I am pretty sure if you go back to the game thats exactly what happened.   If I recall he seemed to hurt his ankle and foot on a sack he took in the pocket.

 

No, Josh hurt his ankle on a QB run for about 20 yards when he was as tackled near the sideline by Devin White. 

Edited December 13, 2021 by Motorin'

[Billl]

1 hour ago, MAJBobby said:

Here is a nice little Stat.  Buffalo Bills Rushing TD leaders In the HISTORY of the team.  In 4 years the Bills QB already up to 5th all time, and has a good look at getting to 3 all time before the end of the season.  

 

Get this team a freaking OL please.

 

Crazy how many fumbles most of those guys have.  Would never have guessed OJ had basically as many fumbles as TDs in his career.  Probably because his gloves were the wrong size.

23 minutes ago, MAJBobby said:

You know QBs have a much higher chance of getting hurt in the pocket than running

 

22 minutes ago, thenorthremembers said:

All QBs eventually get hurt.   All football players, eventually get hurt.    The statistics show that a Quarterback is more likely to get hurt in the pocket than he is running the ball.    I am pretty sure if you go back to the game thats exactly what happened.   If I recall he seemed to hurt his ankle and foot on a sack he took in the pocket.

Running QBs still get hit in the pocket.  Then they run and take more hits.

[MAJBobby]

22 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said:

 

So, since Thurman, the Bills have always had a *****OL?

 

 

Yep they have. Since the 90s teams how long have we screamed for a competent OL?  

16 minutes ago, Billl said:

Crazy how many fumbles most of those guys have.  Would never have guessed OJ had basically as many fumbles as TDs in his career.  Probably because his gloves were the wrong size.

 

Running QBs still get hit in the pocket.  Then they run and take more hits.

Injuries happen MORE in the pocket than a QB on the run. That is the reality. 

[Johnnycage46]

1 hour ago, Gene1973 said:

That's what happens when you don't have a true RB1

No, that's what happens when you have a BEAST of a QB who can break arm tackles, truck LBers, and outrun DBs.

[Fan in Chicago]

53 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said:

 

With RB, just have to hit on one player, not 5.  Plus a great RB can run with a mediocre line.

Except that you are then beholden to that one player. OL upgrades are better for the long run. As examples, Singletary would be lot more effective if we had a stronger run blocking OL core. (assuming Dumb-oll would call those run plays)

52 minutes ago, MAJBobby said:

Did they?  OR more likely Teams playing allen Differently this year.  Josh covered alot of their flaws in the OL last year too.

But, yesterday, Allen had more time in the second half. Did the adjustments include OL changes? I would like to see what was different between half 1 and half 2. 

[JerseyBills]

56 minutes ago, mattynh said:

 

I guess talent wise I understand what you are saying but if you put Thurman on the team, do you want to run more than we do now and pass more to RB's than we do now, that will take touches from Knox/Diggs/Sanders/etc.

Both.

The point is having a RB that the defense respects in both the pass n run game would be phenomenal for this offense as a whole

[26TrapDraw]

Fact: if Our OLINE DLINE and sorry Running backs in pass protection had a quarter of the heart that Allen Has this team would never lose.

[Max Fischer]

1 hour ago, TheyCallMeAndy said:

I’d also love to see how many QBs have thrown for 300 yards and rushed for 100

 

[Boatdrinks]

That’s what happens when you have an elite athlete at the QB position. Tremendous production by Allen; I’m glad he’s on our team. 

[Generic_Bills_Fan]

2 hours ago, Gene1973 said:

That's what happens when you don't have a true RB1

Guarantee you they’d be designing runs for him regardless…it’s just so hard to account for unlessssss you can get quick interior pressure which is what has been happening to us of course lol

[TBBills]

2 hours ago, Gene1973 said:

That's what happens when you don't have a true RB1

Don't need one