Is Weed Coming To a Town Near You??

[ExiledInIllinois]

1 hour ago, dpberr said:

Weed is the next big government revenue cash engine across the United States.  It just makes too much money to ignore in a time period of pensions and pretty much every state government flat broke and desperate for cash.  With so many states either losing taxpayers or no longer generating replacement taxpayers, it's an attractive revenue source.  

 

After that, it'll be legalized prostitution.  Sounds wild, but it'll find its way into conversation.  Think about the billions you'd make from a casino that offers booze, gambling, weed, and prostitution for however much money you've got.  You'll pave a lot roads with that revenue.

We should name that road:

 

Perdition Road,  Route 420 takes you right to Pottersville. Pun intended.

 

 

[Gugny]

25 minutes ago, Just Jack said:

I'm not sure how accurate that site is.  Our local village election it was voted Yes, but that link has it as No.  Here's the results from the BOE...

 

 

 

I think that was before absentee ballots were counted.  https://www.newyorkupstate.com/news/2021/12/another-onondaga-county-town-votes-against-allowing-recreational-marijuana-sales.html

 

[LeviF]

The people who drive high really don't care about legal dispensaries, FWIW.

 

And then there's this:

 

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10279353/San-Francisco-suspends-cannabis-tax-help-retailers-compete-dealers-store-thefts.html

[WhoTom]

1 hour ago, Nextmanup said:

But drunks are certainly welcome! 

 

No one on "dope" ever hurt a soul.

 

Four drunk people will start a fight.

Four stoned people will start a band.

 

[DrDawkinstein]

38 minutes ago, teef said:

i've also never agreed with the idea that once it's sold in an area, the streets will be flooded with high drivers.  i mean there may be a tick up, but you didn't exactly have to be a super criminal before to get your hands on pot in the first place.  people who know better won't drive, and others unfortunately won't care.  driving high will be like having a few beers at happy hour and driving home.  it's not a good idea, but i'm sure you'll see it, (we already see it).

 

There will not be much increase, because literally everyone who wants weed already has it, and anyone who would drive under the influence already is. Nothing would be different than the past 20 years.

 

[ExiledInIllinois]

18 minutes ago, WhoTom said:

 

Four drunk people will start a fight.

Four stoned people will start a band.

 

I get it... But we simply don't know if propaganda holds true because it's been illegal forever. 

 

Marijuana is a hallucinogen.

 

We are already in a mental health crisis.

 

https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/your-brain-food/202104/can-marijuana-cause-psychosis

 

Are we prepared for this?

 

Who are your parents?

"Inheriting a genetic predisposition to psychosis makes one vulnerable to the consequences of marijuana. Unfortunately, there are no genetic tests currently available to inform someone with certainty that they are at risk of developing psychosis. Our only option is to consider your siblings: Do any of them seem psychotic to you? If so, then you should seriously reconsider using marijuana."

[Just Jack]

1 hour ago, teef said:

...but you didn't exactly have to be a super criminal before to get your hands on pot in the first place.  

 

NYC this past weekend, in the Times Square area, people were openly selling it, not like "psst, want some pot" but actually had tables setup and loudly telling people "Get your weed here".  There was even a weed truck, like a food truck, selling it. 

[Gugny]

31 minutes ago, ExiledInIllinois said:

I get it... But we simply don't know if propaganda holds true because it's been illegal forever. 

 

Marijuana is a hallucinogen.

 

We are already in a mental health crisis.

 

https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/your-brain-food/202104/can-marijuana-cause-psychosis

 

Are we prepared for this?

 

Who are your parents?

"Inheriting a genetic predisposition to psychosis makes one vulnerable to the consequences of marijuana. Unfortunately, there are no genetic tests currently available to inform someone with certainty that they are at risk of developing psychosis. Our only option is to consider your siblings: Do any of them seem psychotic to you? If so, then you should seriously reconsider using marijuana."

 

Are you in your 50s or your 90s?  Common man!

[ExiledInIllinois]

Just now, Gugny said:

 

Are you in your 50s or your 90s?  Common man!

Little of both.   It's been totally legal here in Illinois for recreational use.  I am pro legalization.  Make it totally legal and study the effects it has on the masses. 

[Johnny Hammersticks]

4 minutes ago, ExiledInIllinois said:

Little of both.   It's been totally legal here in Illinois for recreational use.  I am pro legalization.  Make it totally legal and study the effects it has on the masses. 

 

I think there is enough longitudinal research available already without making it widely (Federally) legal.  Let’s be real here.  Most people have been smoking weed or consuming THC products either legally or illegally for a long time.  Colorado and Washington State, for example, should have some good data.

[teef]

55 minutes ago, DrDawkinstein said:

 

There will not be much increase, because literally everyone who wants weed already has it, and anyone who would drive under the influence already is. Nothing would be different than the past 20 years.

 

this is exactly where i'm at with it.  we may see some new users, but those users strike me as the crowd that will purchase some product, drive home and enjoy themselves...not so much public users.  just a hunch.

23 minutes ago, Just Jack said:

 

NYC this past weekend, in the Times Square area, people were openly selling it, not like "psst, want some pot" but actually had tables setup and loudly telling people "Get your weed here".  There was even a weed truck, like a food truck, selling it. 

i know there's a place not too far from here that you can buy amazing, homemade edibles.  i've also hear there's a store in the area that you can purchase a, "membership", and you can buy whatever you want in the back room.  no one seems to care.  hell...you could smoke pot at the state fair.  you can even smoke at our tiny local kids amusement park.  just have to be in a smoking area.

[Johnny Hammersticks]

6 minutes ago, teef said:

this is exactly where i'm at with it.  we may see some new users, but those users strike me as the crowd that will purchase some product, drive home and enjoy themselves...not so much public users.  just a hunch.

 

What I’ve seen a great deal of is people, such as my father and uncle, who are using THC/CBD products to treat legitimate medical conditions because it is no longer stigmatized as being an evil drug.

 

My father uses .5 mg of a THC (heavy Indica) and CBD tincture most evenings after dinner for pain.  It really has improved his quality of life, and he very rarely needs to take prescription pain killer any more.

[teef]

Just now, Johnny Hammersticks said:

 

What I’ve seen a great deal of is people, such as my father and uncle, who are using THC/CBD products to treat legitimate medical conditions because it is no longer stigmatized as being an evil drug.

 

My father uses .5 mg of a THC (heavy Indica) and CBD tincture most evenings after dinner for pain.  It really has improved his quality of life, and he very rarely needs to take prescription pain killer any more.

the stigma is definitely mostly gone.  my parents are soon to be 82, and they're fine with it.  my brother was in mass for business recently, and picked me up a bunch of product from the dispensary across the boarder.  since my dad was going to see me first, my brother gave it to him to drop off.  he was fascinated by the packaging and how professional it was.  he even gave his 44 year old son the talk about being careful with edibles because he heard they can, "sneak up" on you.  

 

 

[ExiledInIllinois]

8 minutes ago, Johnny Hammersticks said:

 

I think there is enough longitudinal research available already without making it widely (Federally) legal.  Let’s be real here.  Most people have been smoking weed or consuming THC products either legally or illegally for a long time.  Colorado and Washington State, for example, should have some good data.

Any correlations to the mental health crisis we are seeing on the rise?  Will there be testing to find out if people might be predisposed to psychosis?

 

To me it's like guns. I am not anti-gun because I know people enjoy them and use then responsibly... Yet... We got a mess on hands with the people who can't.

[Johnny Hammersticks]

4 minutes ago, ExiledInIllinois said:

Any correlations to the mental health crisis we are seeing on the rise?  Will there be testing to find out if people might be predisposed to psychosis?

 

To me it's like guns. I am not anti-gun because I know people enjoy them and use then responsibly... Yet... We got a mess on hands with the people who can't.

 

I believe there is some current research to suggest that prolonged and heavy marijuana use can cause some people who are genetically predisposed to develop psychosis.  

 

That said, I think it is important to not confuse correlation with causation.  Other life/genetic factors are likely also in play for these “heavy” cannabis users.

 

 

[ExiledInIllinois]

3 minutes ago, Johnny Hammersticks said:

 

I believe there is some current research to suggest that prolonged and heavy marijuana use can cause some people who are genetically predisposed to develop psychosis.  

 

That said, I think it is important to not confuse correlation with causation.  Other life/genetic factors are likely also in play for these “heavy” cannabis users.

 

 

I read tobacco use with marijuana not good.

 

Then there's the whole smoking it thing.  Won't we see rise in cancers, lung cancer?

[TheCockSportif]

6 hours ago, Gugny said:

View which municipalities have made the decision to opt out of adult-use marijuana dispensaries and/or on-site consumption lounges in their jurisdiction. NOTE: While this dashboard is updated regularly it does not represent real-time, official information on municipalities’ opt-out decisions. 

 

https://rockinst.org/issue-areas/state-local-government/municipal-opt-out-tracker/

 

 

Weed is in my town now.  I have no problem with people getting high, so long as they don't kill someone in their cars.  I know plenty of people who like booze and weed and yet manage to behave like normal people behind the wheel.

 

Having written that, the weed culture takes over a city as it's doing with mine.  A local veterinarian's office has converted into a weed shop.  Have you seen Denver?  The green crosses kinda make everything else expensive.  And it's happening here as well.

 

Guess that I'm in the wrong industry.

[Johnny Hammersticks]

1 minute ago, ExiledInIllinois said:

I read tobacco use with marijuana not good.

 

Then there's the whole smoking it thing.  Won't we see rise in cancers, lung cancer?

 

I don’t think so because cannabis use is so wide spread already.  If anything, other options for ingesting THC are so widely available now that lung cancer related to long-term cannabis smoking may be on the decline in the future.   I prefer edibles, and I’d say that I smoke A LOT less flower than I used to because of that.  I do usually keep some bud around, but a few grams will last me a month or two.

[ExiledInIllinois]

Indiana still illegal.   Illinois is legal for recreational use.  Billboards going into Indiana say cops will bust you for it. 

 

The Indiana BMW dealer always knows when an Illinois car is in the shop.  My salesman said: "The odor wafts through the showroom floor from the drop-off bay."

 

😆... There's still a stigma.   You go some places and the odor is definitely distinguishable like a guy smoking a nasty stogey... 

Edited December 13, 2021 by ExiledInIllinois

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