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Obviously the New England game was a soft landing for him but yesterday was a game where Dane could have been exposed. I’d say for the most part he was at least pretty solid. Maybe we got lucky with this guy and maybe we won’t be totally screwed without Tre. Obviously still very upset about the loss but wanted to show some appreciation to Dane for what I thought was a more then respectable showing.

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6 minutes ago, Brianmoorman4jesus said:

Obviously the New England game was a soft landing for him but yesterday was a game where Dane could have been exposed. I’d say for the most part he was at least pretty solid. Maybe we got lucky with this guy and maybe we won’t be totally screwed without Tre. Obviously still very upset about the loss but wanted to show some appreciation to Dane for what I thought was a more then respectable showing.

Agreed. My one question is who had responsibility for Perriman. It appears it wasn't Edmunds, who was apparently supposed to hand him off to a DB. That makes sense because you don't cover a WR with a LB. 

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Agreed. My one question is who had responsibility for Perriman. It appears it wasn't Edmunds, who was apparently supposed to hand him off to a DB. That makes sense because you don't cover a WR with a LB. 

It was Dane.  However, it was a rub play.   When he chased Perriman across the middle he got blocked out of coverage.

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I think he did well too.  It's not like Tre NEVER got beat.  All CB's do.  He just needs to keep working on some of the finer details, like not getting taken out of position to make a play on running plays.

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3 minutes ago, dave mcbride said:

Agreed. My one question is who had responsibility for Perriman. It appears it wasn't Edmunds, who was apparently supposed to hand him off to a DB. That makes sense because you don't cover a WR with a LB. 

 Jackson should have prevented it from being a TD after the catch, but Edmunds is who needed to prevent the catch.

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1 minute ago, dave mcbride said:

Agreed. My one question is who had responsibility for Perriman. It appears it wasn't Edmunds, who was apparently supposed to hand him off to a DB. That makes sense because you don't cover a WR with a LB. 

 

What I dont understand even more, is where was the safety help.  How did an entire right side of the field have no defensive backs what so ever and just a MLB who isnt fast enough to keep up with a speed WR?  How is there no safety help even in the middle of the field where they could have at least cut off the route to prevent the TD?  

 

Either an absolute terrible play call/design, or some of our guys completely screwed the pooch on that play.  Because even if Dane was on Perriman, he isnt fast enough to keep up with him and I don't think the play results in anything different given Perriman has a free run to the end zone on the initial separation anyway.

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4 minutes ago, pigpen65 said:

 Jackson should have prevented it from being a TD after the catch, but Edmunds is who needed to prevent the catch.

You're running the wrong scheme if you're having a LB cover arguably the fastest player in the league (4.25 40 time; one scout timed him at 4.19). McDermott and Frazier aren't stupid. There was a breakdown.

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26 minutes ago, dave mcbride said:

Agreed. My one question is who had responsibility for Perriman. It appears it wasn't Edmunds, who was apparently supposed to hand him off to a DB. That makes sense because you don't cover a WR with a LB. 

I broke the play down here.

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26 minutes ago, thenorthremembers said:

It was Dane.  However, it was a rub play.   When he chased Perriman across the middle he got blocked out of coverage.

So I never could see the actual play before the catch but was it a PI or was it legal?  

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26 minutes ago, thenorthremembers said:

It was Dane.  However, it was a rub play.   When he chased Perriman across the middle he got blocked out of coverage.

It was Johnson. Play is broken down here.

24 minutes ago, Alphadawg7 said:

 

What I dont understand even more, is where was the safety help.  How did an entire right side of the field have no defensive backs what so ever and just a MLB who isnt fast enough to keep up with a speed WR?  How is there no safety help even in the middle of the field where they could have at least cut off the route to prevent the TD?  

 

Either an absolute terrible play call/design, or some of our guys completely screwed the pooch on that play.  Because even if Dane was on Perriman, he isnt fast enough to keep up with him and I don't think the play results in anything different given Perriman has a free run to the end zone on the initial separation anyway.

Read here.

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Could be a blessing in disguise for next year.  We need our premium picks for other positions, and from what i've seen from Jackson, we should feel pretty confident in a CB unit that consists of Tre, Dane and Levi on the outside (I do think Levi is worth re-signing).  

 

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Until the game was stolen from the Bills, I had Dane Jackson as one of my game balls.  Recovered from a rough first half to make some big PD plays that kept the Bills in it.  Bring on the Cheats, we're going to stomp them at the Razor.

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Outside of the last play of the game I thought Dane was phenomenal! Great tackling, Held up in coverage on Gonk, held his own against others. He's an excellent depth player for this team and I hope he keeps up the good play out there in Tre-day's absence.

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Dane was solid. Makes me feel great about our CB situation long term.

Maybe Corner isn't a dire need in rounds 1 and 2 of next year... a lot of us, including me, have been wrong on that one.

 

If that's the case, I would feel great about:

1st Round: Guard/Center/1-Tech DT

2nd Round: Guard/Center/1-Tech DT

3rd Round: Guard/Center/1-Tech DT

 

Get a nice vet RB in free agency and maybe a WR as well.

Not a lot of tinkering needed if the CB situation is settled after Tre gets back.

 

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49 minutes ago, Brianmoorman4jesus said:

I was surprised how often he ended up alone on Gronk actually 

That is good scheme. Best way to stop Gronk was always to cover him with CB. He's too fast for a LB. And he is bigger than everyone anyways. 

 

Dane was good enough to be CB#2 or at least solid depth. Levi has been solid all year too. If they both come back it will give insurance that White can recover fully before being pressed into action.

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I'm a big fan of Dane Jackson.  Media is saying we really missed Tre and that's why we got carved up by TB, especially in the first half.  Of course we're better with Tre but Dane played great.  He's a solid starting NFL CB2 all day.  Brady had success due to a lack of pressure by our front.

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will get feedback mid-week grades from Joe B of the Athletic who does a credible job of film review and feedback with some good in-depth analysis as well...he picked on Morse last game (Pats) and gave good grade to a DT (Phillips) despite all the runs (and yards and big play)

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