Proposed rule change re PI

[Miyagi-Do Karate]

I have been chewing on this for a while, but what drives me crazy are the DPI calls on underthrown balls. Those balls have almost zero chance of getting caught; are usually poorly thrown balls; and penalize DB’s who are usually in a great coverage position.
 

My proposed rule change is that an underthrown ball is not deemed “catchable,” such that PI does not apply. 
 

I think this would eliminate the majority of these game-changing PI calls where receivers are able to draw penalties on poorly thrown balls. (The only potential downside is that it could hurt QB’s throwing back shoulder passes— but that’s it as far as I can tell). 
 

Thoughts? 

[Do The Reich Thing]

Just now, Miyagi-Do Karate said:

I have been chewing on this for a while, but what drives me crazy are the DPI calls on underthrown balls. Those balls have almost zero chance of getting caught; are usually poorly thrown balls; and penalize DB’s who are usually in a great coverage position.
 

My proposed rule change is that an underthrown ball is not deemed “catchable,” such that PI does not apply. 
 

I think this would eliminate the majority of these game-changing PI calls where receivers are able to draw penalties on poorly thrown balls. (The only potential downside is that it could hurt QB’s throwing back shoulder passes— but that’s it as far as I can tell). 
 

Thoughts? 

By saying “catchable” you’re still leaving it as a judgment call. This solves nothing unfortunately. 

[Dan]

Any way you slice it, the Bills will get more ticky tack calls on them.   Until Pegula gets on the competition committee and starts padding pockets, we’re getting screwed no matter how they change the rule book. 

[Thurman#1]

It wouldn't hurt back shoulder throws it would pretty much eliminate them.

 

Any time a receiver tried to slow down and go back for the ball the DBs would be coached to keep running and run them over.

[4_kidd_4]

Make PI reviewable. 

[zow2]

I'm sure Brady, Evans and his other WR's work on PI in practice a bit.  Brady has used that penalty as a weapon for years.

[SoCal Deek]

Or how about we take advantage of the same rule that other team’s use against us? How about that? Hmmm?

[LV Bills fan]

12 minutes ago, 4_kidd_4 said:

Make PI reviewable. 

They tried that and still got the calls wrong. 

[Big Turk]

7 hours ago, Miyagi-Do Karate said:

I have been chewing on this for a while, but what drives me crazy are the DPI calls on underthrown balls. Those balls have almost zero chance of getting caught; are usually poorly thrown balls; and penalize DB’s who are usually in a great coverage position.
 

My proposed rule change is that an underthrown ball is not deemed “catchable,” such that PI does not apply. 
 

I think this would eliminate the majority of these game-changing PI calls where receivers are able to draw penalties on poorly thrown balls. (The only potential downside is that it could hurt QB’s throwing back shoulder passes— but that’s it as far as I can tell). 
 

Thoughts? 

 

How about anytime a receiver is grabbed and pulled by the Jersey too? Oh wait...that already is considered PI...unless it happens to Diggs.

[BeastMaster]

The league will always leave a "grey area" where it gives them room to make or not make calls.

 

This is by design, so they can do exactly what they did to us against Tampa.

[D. L. Hot-Flamethrower]

1 minute ago, BeastMaster said:

The league will always leave a "grey area" where it gives them room to make or not make calls.

 

This is by design, so they can do exactly what they did to us against Tampa.

Are you saying that they always leave a little gray area in case the game needs a little help (wink) (wink)?

[All_Pro_Bills]

I propose removal of the sub-section of the pass interference rule that "allows defenders to interfere with, impede, grab, or hold Bills receivers and not receive a penalty".  

Edited December 13, 2021 by All_Pro_Bills

[BRH]

This rule change will be implemented the year after Brady retires.

1 hour ago, Big Turk said:

 

How about anytime a receiver is grabbed and pulled by the Jersey too? Oh wait...that already is considered PI...unless it happens to Diggs.

 

I love that whenever it is called and they go to the replay the announcer says “that’ll be called every time.”

 

Every time indeed.  Except on Stefon Diggs against Tampa.

[racketmaster]

PI calls around the league are terrible and so costly. The refs are so inconsistent and they are huge momentum plays especially when many of these weak armed qbs that throw up ducks and have their wrs come back to the ball and the defender bumps into them and flags are thrown. To me, it is a bail out call as the balls are often uncatchable or terrible passes that reward the qb. Plus, some teams get the calls much more often then others. Too often the Bills have been on the short end of the stick. 

[dave mcbride]

1 hour ago, LV Bills fan said:

They tried that and still got the calls wrong. 

Because they tried to get it wrong. The officials hated the new PI review rule and basically did the equivalent of a work slowdown at the behest of the incompetent Al Riveron.

Edited December 13, 2021 by dave mcbride

[NewEra]

1 hour ago, LV Bills fan said:

They tried that and still got the calls wrong. 

They got the calls wrong because they wanted to get rid of the PI replays.  The act of making PI reviewable was clearly to show every one they were trying to fix a major problem, when in actuality, that’s all that it was….a show.  They still refused to over turn them, almost as if to prove that the officiating was just fine the way it was.  
 

nonsense.  If the refs did their job correctly last night, we win.  They failed. 

[Big Blitz]

Not sure if posted anywhere 

 

 

 

[Bookie Man]

No more spot fouls. 10 yards automatic first down. And yes no ticky tack calls. It’s so lame every time it seems there’s a good play on a 50/50 ball, you’re holding your breath to see if the refs throw a flag. Then yep about 3 seconds after the play, a yellow flag comes flying into the screen. 

[MPT]

1 hour ago, SoCal Deek said:

Or how about we take advantage of the same rule that other team’s use against us? How about that? Hmmm?

 

If we don't get the call when Diggs gets hauled down by his collar or when his shirt is being dragged a yard behind him, we're not going to get the designed interference call. That play only exists for certain teams.

[Bob in STL]

9 hours ago, Miyagi-Do Karate said:

I have been chewing on this for a while, but what drives me crazy are the DPI calls on underthrown balls. Those balls have almost zero chance of getting caught; are usually poorly thrown balls; and penalize DB’s who are usually in a great coverage position.
 

My proposed rule change is that an underthrown ball is not deemed “catchable,” such that PI does not apply. 
 

I think this would eliminate the majority of these game-changing PI calls where receivers are able to draw penalties on poorly thrown balls. (The only potential downside is that it could hurt QB’s throwing back shoulder passes— but that’s it as far as I can tell). 
 

Thoughts? 

Take out the word “catchable”.   Instead use wording that doesn’t penalize the DB for under-thrown balls.  If the WR must change direction and come back toward the LOS then the DB has rights to hold his position.   In a league that wants scoring this will be a hard sell.