Hapless Bills Fan Posted December 13, 2021 Posted December 13, 2021 2 minutes ago, Chandler#81 said: Josh runs smartly. Cam runs recklessly, believing he is invincible. It’s that Big muscle ‘tween the ears. I see your point now. I would like to believe you. But we’ve both seen the film of Josh stiff-arming guys and running back into the center of the field. Josh can be a wild man out there. 1 Quote
mannc Posted December 13, 2021 Posted December 13, 2021 Can’t put Josh out there next week if he’s not right. This is why we signed Trubisky…he absolutely should be able to beat Carolina. 2 1 Quote
DrPJax Posted December 13, 2021 Posted December 13, 2021 4 hours ago, Coach Tuesday said: Way to protect your bosses’ quarter-billion investment McBeane… Why we need legit 3 down backs , not Allen running for 100 yards! Man, he had quite a game; he was all heart on top of talent today. Most I have ever seen one player carry a team! We at least have a quality franchise qb! 1 Quote
Hapless Bills Fan Posted December 13, 2021 Posted December 13, 2021 5 minutes ago, DrPJax said: Why we need legit 3 down backs , not Allen running for 100 yards! Man, he had quite a game; he was all heart on top of talent today. Most I have ever seen one player carry a team! We at least have a quality franchise qb! Agreed, @DrPJax provided we don’t break him. We made 0 attempts to run the ball with a running back in the first half. Zero. None. Check it out - scroll down to “First Half Summary” Quote
DrPJax Posted December 13, 2021 Posted December 13, 2021 5 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: Agreed, @DrPJax provided we don’t break him. We made 0 attempts to run the ball with a running back in the first half. Zero. None. Check it out - scroll down to “First Half Summary” I know! It’s unbelievable! How does Mcd allow Daboll to keep doing crazy stuff like that , esp if he want to have a long career as the head coach? Regardless of the great comeback , can’t forget how bad the offensive game planning was that first half. Finally opened things up when motor hit on a couple of runs and Allen was running so well, but as you said , NO runs by a RB is hard to forgive. I think this is the last year of Daboll; great talent at qb but you have to have balance. Brady didn’t do all that stuff today by himself. 1 Quote
QCity Posted December 13, 2021 Posted December 13, 2021 4 hours ago, goldenboy81 said: This season just gets more rough. He's gonna be broken in a couple years if they don't start protecting him Running QB's don't last. 1 Quote
njbuff Posted December 13, 2021 Posted December 13, 2021 Unless the Bills go on some sort of run, at least Daboll will lose his job. Quote
SirAndrew Posted December 13, 2021 Posted December 13, 2021 10 hours ago, atlbillsfan1975 said: That’s a stretch. Josh should be running even if he was playing behind a better line. Less injuries to QB happen on scrambles than do from hits in the pocket. That’s probably true, but there’s a difference between injuries and wear and tear. QB’s get a lot of wear and tear from running. The most vicious hits take place in the pocket, but running adds another element of danger. There’s a reason backs have such short careers. Most running QB’s have burned out early as well. Quote
SCBills Posted December 13, 2021 Posted December 13, 2021 Allen should only be used like that in the Playoffs. Once again, our lack of running game and OL issues continue to derail our season. We can start Mitch and hope for the best against Carolina, but we have no room for error. We’re in the 7 spot due to a logjam.. looking at the playoff machine, there’s a reasonable scenario where we beat Carolina and still go into the Patriots game on the outside looking in. It will all sort itself out if we win out, but that shows how dire of a situation we put ourselves in. Quote
BuffaloBills1998 Posted December 13, 2021 Posted December 13, 2021 Until things are confirmed, the picture doesn’t mean *****. I fully guarantee Josh will be playing next Sunday. Guys got heart and he’s tough as nails. He really is starting to remind me of Kelly and Marino. Even injured you couldn’t keep them off the field. Beane really and I mean really needs to address the O line and Running game during the off season. Maybe even go for another WR. 1 Quote
Greg S Posted December 13, 2021 Posted December 13, 2021 They could probably beat the Panthers at home with Trubisky if they had to. I hope Josh is healthy enough to play but if they have to go with Mitch it wouldn't be the end of the world here. They absolutely have no shot at beating the Pats in Foxborough without Allen however. Quote
atlbillsfan1975 Posted December 13, 2021 Posted December 13, 2021 3 minutes ago, SirAndrew said: That’s probably true, but there’s a difference between injuries and wear and tear. QB’s get a lot of wear and tear from running. The most vicious hits take place in the pocket, but running adds another element of danger. There’s a reason backs have such short careers. Most running QB’s have burned out early as well. True, and I think we have already seen Josh’s game evolve and I believe it will continue to do so. It’s nice to have his running ability as an option in games like yesterday. For this year, this offense is best when Josh gets 3-5 sweep calls against teams who are stout in the middle but weak in the edge against the run. Most of the time Josh can get the edge and get out of bounds. Yesterday when Josh got injured it was him going for everything he could get. He doesn’t do that very often anymore. 1 Quote
Greg S Posted December 13, 2021 Posted December 13, 2021 10 hours ago, Dr.Sack said: Allen was hit so many times it’s amazing he survived. Thank Beane for building him a "great OL". Quote
Saxum Posted December 13, 2021 Posted December 13, 2021 11 hours ago, CountDorkula said: I mean they inexcusably traded maybe the best guard in football for a 6th rd pick and for some reason deiced Quinton Spain was not good enough after an all pro season. He was not "maybe the best guard" when he was traded. And Quittin' Spain pretended to get injury on plane because he was not going to start against his old team after being inactive for a game. You are exaggerating to make a point. Quote
Steptide Posted December 13, 2021 Posted December 13, 2021 7 hours ago, mannc said: Can’t put Josh out there next week if he’s not right. This is why we signed Trubisky…he absolutely should be able to beat Carolina. You sure about that? We have 4 games left and we haven't clinched a playoff spot. I kinda think the opposite. If Allen can go, play him until we clinch a spot, then maybe rest him if possible before the playoffs start Quote
BBills_88 Posted December 13, 2021 Posted December 13, 2021 Everyone wanted to run the ball with Josh more. Him getting hurt is the flipside of that. We need to get that OLINE fixed and running game fixed PRONTO! Quote
HOUSE Posted December 13, 2021 Posted December 13, 2021 This boot is becoming larger and larger all morning long In Cleveland its a knee high leg brace, in Baltimore full leg cast 4 Quote
Ridgewaycynic2013 Posted December 13, 2021 Posted December 13, 2021 6 minutes ago, HOUSE said: This boot is becoming larger and larger all morning long In Cleveland its a knee high leg brace, in Baltimore full leg cast Piffle. If I recall correctly, Bledsoe performed as Bills QB in a full body cast. Or maybe he just ran like it...🤔 1 2 Quote
racketmaster Posted December 13, 2021 Posted December 13, 2021 This team is a paper tiger and Allen is the only thing keeping this team from being a complete disaster. The team can only run the football effectively when the other team is completely playing the pass. Then Singletary can rip off 8-9 yard runs. As soon as it is 3rd and 2 or less or we need to run to close out a game, then our running backs become useless. Allen has to use his legs on this team on designed runs and scramble plays just to try and keep opposing defenses somewhat honest. McDermott and Beane put together a team they thought could win a Super Bowl and we might not even make the playoffs. Allen has so much pressure to perform in the air and running that when he is just average, we can't move the ball with our running backs. This o-line and rb room is subpar and certainly not playoff caliber. 5 Quote
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