If anyone wants to say the NFL isn't rigged, please re-watch that game

[Generic_Bills_Fan]

22 minutes ago, dave mcbride said:

They called the Bills twice for defensive holding and once for twice for PI. The two holds were nullified by offsetting penalties. The PI against Jackson was close to a really good play by him but he got his arm around Gronkowski and it was a fair call. I have my doubts, however, that that would have been called against a Tampa DB. 

Yea that’s kind of my point…we had absolutely textbook no doubter holds/PIs on Tampa that were not called so what gives.  Clearly you’re not letting both teams play because you’re flagging one team for them.  That play where diggs’ jersey gets stretched for 5 yards in the first half was literally laughable…romo laughed and said ‘how is that not PI’ 😂 I have no doubt the nfl reviews that and feels similarly that we got a bit robbed and who knows maybe we start getting calls in the future 

3 minutes ago, KeLLy1278 said:

Lol.. yeah I know about the multiple threads.  😂 

 

I don’t think it would hurt to do this: The Bills FO should study the film and contact the league office.. demanding a response.  Meanwhile, Sean needs to prepare the team for the stretch run and emphasize winning every individual battle which will lead to winning a game.  A game.  Not games.. but one game.  This team can go on a winning streak.  I’m tellin’ ya. 

Yep I’m totally on board with that… I think we’re due for some questionable calls going our way after that one. Sucks that the division was super winnable if we win that game…just goes to show you how important each individual play is.  If Josh’s foot is an inch to the right we were right in the thick of it.  Now we’re 60/40 to make the playoffs.  Kind of deserved after blowing a game to the jags.  It’s just rough because it’s one of those things you just know is gonna happen…I’m still fired up about the nonsense that won Tampa it’s week 1 game over Dallas and that’s an all nfc game that I shouldn’t even care about haha 

Edited December 13, 2021 by Generic_Bills_Fan

[KeLLy1278]

6 minutes ago, Shaw66 said:

Well, sure, the Bills should have won the game, even with the calls.   That's clear.   But that doesn't mean the calls aren't worth talking about.  They happened, and they happened largely one way.   There were some obvious missed calls that could very well have changed the outcome of the game.  Those are facts, and if people want to talk about that, there's good reason to talk about it.  If you're not interested, if that's not an aspect of the game you want to talk about, fine.  But it's real, it happened, and people want to talk about it.  It's not a meaningless topic just because (1) the Bills could have won anyway or (2) it's happened to other teams.   54 passing plays without one penalty on the defensive backfield must be some kind of record in the modern NFL, especially where there is clear photographic evidence of multiple blatant holds by the defense.  

I usually stay away from the whole “conspiracy / shoot the ref” crowd.  But it’s just been brewing jet black in this foruk as of late so I decided to give my two cents.. which lead to a dollar. 🤣  I think I’ve had my fill.

[Generic_Bills_Fan]

9 minutes ago, Call_Of_Ktulu said:

This is why the NFL feels boring to me, it feels so scripted and outcomes are easy to predict. I should’ve bet money on the game I probably would’ve won a few 1,000 again

Yea to throw a comment the other sides direction…what can you do though besides play better.  It’s not like you can court martial these refs or something 😂 

[ExiledInIllinois]

21 minutes ago, BTB said:

Then why didn’t the refs call a slew of penalties against the Bills in the 2nd half to keep them from getting back in the game?   The game was not rigged…no game is. 

Rigged is really NOT the right word.  They "push" outcomes.  

 

Refs wanted Bills back in game.  Better narrative.

Edited December 13, 2021 by ExiledInIllinois

[Not at the table Karlos]

20 hours ago, RiotAct said:

I actually think that it was a pretty well-officiated game, up until those two non-calls.

The holding call on Johnson earlier and an illegal shift were complete bull as well. 

[KeLLy1278]

6 minutes ago, Generic_Bills_Fan said:

Yea that’s kind of my point…we had absolutely textbook no doubter holds/PIs on Tampa that were not called so what gives.  Clearly you’re not letting both teams play because you’re flagging one team for them.  That play where diggs’ jersey gets stretched for 5 yards in the first half was literally laughable…romo laughed and said ‘how is that not PI’ 😂 I have no doubt the nfl reviews that and feels similarly that we got a bit robbed and who knows maybe we start getting calls in the future 

Yep I’m totally on board with that… I think we’re due for some questionable calls going our way after that one. Sucks that the division was super winnable if we win that game…just goes to show you how important each individual play is. 

The Bills can still make some noise.  But if they lose the next game??  

It’s on to the 2022 season and maybe the Sabres can turn things around???  Not betting on it tho.

[Generic_Bills_Fan]

Just now, KeLLy1278 said:

The Bills can still make some noise.  But if they lose the next game??  

It’s on to the 2022 season and maybe the Sabres can turn things around???  Not betting on it tho.

Yea I really wouldn’t be shocked if they started putting it together down the stretch…outside of the colts game,which seems like a bit of an outlier where neither the offense or the defense could play, we have been a real tough out and the plays are there to be made we just haven’t been executing with normally reliable guys

[NewEra]

43 minutes ago, KeLLy1278 said:

The adult walked into the room.  But the adult doesn’t walk into the room when fans are crying and tripping all over themselves while they blame wins and losses on officiating.  As if it will make any difference either way.
 

Virtually every gameday thread criticizes the officiating with a whoa is me attitude.  The league is squarely against the Buffalo Bills winning a Super Bowl.  This is what many fans in this forum believe.  If you have failed to notice that, then you haven’t spent much time on GDTs.

The fans are venting on a message board.  The adult, for some reason, thinks this is business meeting with money on the table. That’s not the case.  Welcome to the message board…..the place where we come to celebrate when we win and cry when we lose.  Wake up, splash some water on your face.  If you don’t like it, don’t  click on the thread entitled” If anyone wants to say the NFL isn't rigged, please re-watch that game”.  That’s what the adult in you would do.  But, yeah. 

24 minutes ago, FilthyBeast said:

 

I'm not disagreeing about the bad calls, the Bills were screwed but that's why it also begs the question why on earth this coaching thought it was a smart move to run a low percentage fad to a smallish WR in Diggs knowing the flags weren't going their way and the Bucs were not going to essentially lose the game on that type of call.

 

It was pretty much the Titans game all over again but this time McDermott played for OT instead of the tie.

So now the coaches are supposed to “NOT CALL CERTAIN PLAYS” because the refs are going to give us a call..     lol. The coaches are literally supposed to change their play calls because the officials suck.  That’s how bad it is.  The coaches calling a fade isn’t the problem.  Your trying way to hard to cry about the coaches.  They rightly deserve a lot of the blame for the loss…..but don’t blame it on their inability to adapt to the referees.  Seriously 

[BuffaloBills1998]

Some of you guys are realizing this now??? The NFL turned into the WWF back in 2000-2001. No one can argue with me that the Pats bought their way into the SB in 01.

[HomeTeam]

I haven't read the entire post, so forgive me if I'm being redundant but I've been very vocal over the years about my displeasure of the officials and the NFL product as a whole.

 

If the officials would just stay out of the way and only call the blatant fouls and be consistent in that, then nobody would have a problem. Think the Monday night game vs New England. They kept their flags in their pockets and nobody had a problem because they were consistent! The refs are not the stars of the show here, but you'd think otherwise at how flag happy they are. 

 

Now, you don't need a tin foil had to understand that this league is all about viewership and ad revenue. Teams with certain storylines or market sizes always get favorable calls. These owners are greedy old men with a massive cash cow on their hands. They collude to make decisions that increase revenue for the whole, even at the expense of the product and it's legitimacy.  Nobody holds them accountable, and they know that.  They don't even have a relegation system like other leagues, haha. It's a nice club to be in and unfortunately you and I aren't invited. 

 

Don't get me started about NFL's treatment of its athletes, it's feel good causes, and it's slap on the wrist "punishments." Did you guys notice during the Bucs game the back, to back, to back commercial breaks. Are you kidding me!? Are the commercials the main product here or is it not the football which we all love. I digress. 

 

Now some of these points may be exaggerated and I might be a bit bitter, I admit but it still does not make it any less true. 

 

As someone said in another post, if it wasn't for our the love of the Bills, we would of stopped watching a long time ago. 

[KeLLy1278]

55 minutes ago, NewEra said:

The fans are venting on a message board.  The adult, for some reason, thinks this is business meeting with money on the table. That’s not the case.  Welcome to the message board…..the place where we come to celebrate when we win and cry when we lose.  Wake up, splash some water on your face.  If you don’t like it, don’t  click on the thread entitled” If anyone wants to say the NFL isn't rigged, please re-watch that game”.  That’s what the adult in you would do.  But, yeah. Ok

The arrogance spray is thick..  but you failed to recognize that I in fact perceived YOU as the adult.  The game is over and you missed the point entirely.  You also advised me to omit a thread and advised other members to ignore my posts… yet you showed that you disagree with my posts since you chose to comment on them.  We’re all just waiting to read the next contradiction at this point.  
 

Reminds me of something my father used to tell people who couldn’t really agree on much or get along for one reason or another.  “Don’t go away mad.. just go away.” 

[billsfan714]

I just watched Shannon Sharpe and Skip Bayliss.  Sharpe said it was PI and if they didnt call it there, shouldnt of called it against us in OT, have to have consistency.   Bayliss I kid you not, thought it should of been pass interference against Diggs.   You cant be dumber than Skip Bayliss, it is impossible.

Edited December 13, 2021 by billsfan714

[NewEra]

18 minutes ago, KeLLy1278 said:

The arrogance spray is thick..  but you failed to recognize that I in fact perceived YOU as the adult.  The game is over and you missed the point entirely.  You also advised me to omit a thread and advised other members to ignore my posts… yet you showed that you disagree with my posts since you chose to comment on them.  We’re all just waiting to read the next contradiction at this point.  
 

Reminds me of something my father used to tell people who couldn’t really agree on much or get along for one reason or another.  “Don’t go away mad.. just go away.” 

Apologies.  I was quick to comment after reading your first paragraph.  I didn’t read the 2nd paragraph.  
 

Been here awhile.  Thanks for the advice though.  

[Buffalo Barbarian]

7 hours ago, theRalph said:

That, by definition, is "Rigged".

 

Man you guys need help.

 

The refs CANT RIG THE GAME !!

 

To rig a game the outcome has to be predetermined on who wins and who loses, which require the entire league and all the people in it to be in on the fix.

 

However a ref can make certain calls that help one team more than others. Now who is giving them these orders ,that i cant say, is it the commissioner, is it the networks, maybe Vegas, how about the mafia, who knows. One thing is clear certain teams and or players seem to get more calls than others.

 

 

20 hours ago, CorkScrewHill said:

By definition.. influencing the way they want it to go is rigging it

 

No, see above

 

 

Edited December 14, 2021 by Buffalo Barbarian

[Buffalo Barbarian]

21 hours ago, Billever76 said:

Refs can dictate almost every single game when needed and its almost impossible to prove it..its the perfect way to sway millions of dollars to vegas smh

 

yep

 

 

[Meatloaf63]

3 hours ago, NewEra said:

The fans are venting on a message board.  The adult, for some reason, thinks this is business meeting with money on the table. That’s not the case.  Welcome to the message board…..the place where we come to celebrate when we win and cry when we lose.  Wake up, splash some water on your face.  If you don’t like it, don’t  click on the thread entitled” If anyone wants to say the NFL isn't rigged, please re-watch that game”.  That’s what the adult in you would do.  But, yeah. 

So now the coaches are supposed to “NOT CALL CERTAIN PLAYS” because the refs are going to give us a call..     lol. The coaches are literally supposed to change their play calls because the officials suck.  That’s how bad it is.  The coaches calling a fade isn’t the problem.  Your trying way to hard to cry about the coaches.  They rightly deserve a lot of the blame for the loss…..but don’t blame it on their inability to adapt to the referees.  Seriously 

They are not supposed to call plays at a critical juncture that have had a low % of being successful regardless of the officiating. Fades are best executed when the receiver has a physical & height advantage. We do not have a good track record on fades this season.

[NewEra]

1 minute ago, Meatloaf63 said:

They are not supposed to call plays at a critical juncture that have had a low % of being successful regardless of the officiating. Fades are best executed when the receiver has a physical & height advantage. We do not have a good track record on fades this season.

Oh well.  They trusted an elite QB to throw a fade to one of the best ball tracking wrs ever.  Ever.  They weren’t expecting it and their CB got toasted…..had to cheat to prevent a TD. Sounds like a good play call to me.  It sounds like a bad play call now only becssue the officials decided to let them cheat.  A flag or a completed pass and it’s genius.  He was open. 

[Doc]

2 hours ago, billsfan714 said:

I just watched Shannon Sharpe and Skip Bayliss.  Sharpe said it was PI and if they didnt call it there, shouldnt of called it against us in OT, have to have consistency.   Bayliss I kid you not, thought it should of been pass interference against Diggs.   You cant be dumber than Skip Bayliss, it is impossible.

 

That's why he's called Skip Braynless.

[Meatloaf63]

53 minutes ago, NewEra said:

Oh well.  They trusted an elite QB to throw a fade to one of the best ball tracking wrs ever.  Ever.  They weren’t expecting it and their CB got toasted…..had to cheat to prevent a TD. Sounds like a good play call to me.  It sounds like a bad play call now only becssue the officials decided to let them cheat.  A flag or a completed pass and it’s genius.  He was open. 

Just watched two failed fades to Hopkins, same problem, a fade generally needs to be thrown high for guaranteed success. A few games ago they threw it to Diggs and the first play there was a penalty, he did score on the second throw. It’s a poorly designed play when your receiver has no height advantage. Relying on getting the correct call or throwing the ball before you know if the receiver is going to break from close coverage is not a smart risk to take. It didn’t work, we didn’t get the call. All we needed was a first down, there still was time, it was the wrong call.

[Shaw66]

1 hour ago, Meatloaf63 said:

They are not supposed to call plays at a critical juncture that have had a low % of being successful regardless of the officiating. Fades are best executed when the receiver has a physical & height advantage. We do not have a good track record on fades this season.

The Bills don't run a true fade.  Allen to Diggs on that side has become a go-to route for the Bills because of Allen's accuracy, Diggs's ability to shake defenders at the line of scrimmage, and Diggs's hands.   They love going there.   Of course, opponents know that.  And, of course, the Bills know the only defenders can stop it is by holding or interfering.  The Bills got exactly what they expected, except the ref didn't make the call.