If the Bills re-sign Edmunds, they're stupid.

[Royale with Cheese]

19 minutes ago, ArtVandalay said:

That's wrong.  Cash- wise he makes $5.9 MM this year after making $14.0 MM last year.  His cap figure this year is $8.2 MM. His average annual was $10 MM per year. 

 

He's been absolutely horrible and will be gone in the offseason.

 

Absolutely horrible?  He leads our team in sacks.  He's been our best defensive end.

 

He took a restructure which saved us money....and he lead our team in sacks.  Sounds horrible....

[ArtVandalay]

Just now, Royale with Cheese said:

 

Absolutely horrible?  He leads our team in sacks.  He's been our best defensive end.

 

He took a restructure which saved us money....and he lead our team in sacks.  Sounds horrible....

Hahahaha! Our best DE? Because you browse a stat sheet and see 7 sacks? Please!

 

No one else has more than 4 sacks, so it's not saying anything big that he's the team leader.  Obada and Epenesa have more QB his than him in their limited time, the dude is invisible on the field.  He grades out poorly on PFF too, 63. 

 

Guy is horrible and will be very happy to see his overpaid butt gone next year.  See ya!

[Royale with Cheese]

1 minute ago, ArtVandalay said:

Hahahaha! Our best DE? Because you browse a stat sheet and see 7 sacks? Please!

 

No one else has more than 4 sacks, so it's not saying anything big that he's the team leader.  Obada and Epenesa have more QB his than him in their limited time, the dude is invisible on the field.  He grades out poorly on PFF too, 63. 

 

Guy is horrible and will be very happy to see his overpaid butt gone next year.  See ya!

 

Well, 7 is bigger than 4 and he still leads the team in sacks.  Crazy how Epenesa was a multiple healthy scratch but kept playing Addison.

He was so horrible that he was a regularly on the field.

[Brand J]

1 hour ago, ArtVandalay said:

Hahahaha! Our best DE? Because you browse a stat sheet and see 7 sacks? Please!

 

No one else has more than 4 sacks, so it's not saying anything big that he's the team leader.  Obada and Epenesa have more QB his than him in their limited time, the dude is invisible on the field.  He grades out poorly on PFF too, 63. 

 

Guy is horrible and will be very happy to see his overpaid butt gone next year.  See ya!

I think Addison is a slightly above average DE who’s better against the pass than the run. The reason the Bills defense excels is not because any one player is a superstar (as evidenced by the lack of pro bowlers), but because all eleven are at least “solid.” Yes, even Edmunds. But imagine if we had someone in the front 7 who was feared? A Watt, or a Bosa, or Parsons. Oliver and Milano are the closest we’ve got, but a feared player would elevate this defense to an even higher level and I do believe you’d see less ho hum performances against the better offenses.
 

With that said, the truth of the matter is there just aren’t any more dominating defenses in this passing game era. The Bills are #1, but would probably be middle of the pack if you were to transport this unit back to the 90s, or even early 2000s. Just have the expectation that it’s not on the defense for the Bills to win their first Super Bowl. It’s all on the Allen-led offense. If Allen climbs out of this rut he’s been in the past couple games and plays lights out in the postseason, I like our chances against any team.

[Orlando Buffalo]

3 hours ago, 34-78-83 said:

Robert Saleh thinks he's kinda decent too... for any that may have missed from 1/7.

 

 

 

I am not a Edmunds basher but even I don't compare him favorably to Urlacher. I know we will pay him to keep him but I hope we don't pay him more than Darius Leonard.

[billsbackto81]

2 hours ago, Royale with Cheese said:

 

Absolutely horrible?  He leads our team in sacks.  He's been our best defensive end.

 

He took a restructure which saved us money....and he lead our team in sacks.  Sounds horrible....

That's like being the most handsome patient in the burn unit. 

[Royale with Cheese]

9 minutes ago, billsbackto81 said:

That's like being the most handsome patient in the burn unit. 

 

So if Addison is horrible, the rest of our DL is almost unplayable?  

Maybe we need to focus all offseason needs on the DL because we're going to need about 8 new DL for next year.

Edited January 10, 2022 by Royale with Cheese

[TBBills]

On 12/12/2021 at 7:57 PM, damj said:

Once again... Edmunds is close, but fails. 

 

I'm not talking about the touchdown... I'm talking 3rd and 3, he penetrates and fails to make the tackle. 

 

He is good. But he is not an impact LB. 

Wtf are you talking about? They aren't resigning him.

[billsbackto81]

4 minutes ago, Royale with Cheese said:

 

So if Addison is horrible, the rest of our DL is almost unplayable?  

Maybe we need to focus all offseason needs on the DL because we're going to need about 8 new DL for next year.

He's not horrible. He's the DE equivalent of Star at DT. Serviceable, but a bad return on investment.

 

God I hate looking at players from a GM perspective.😒

[ghostwriter]

I’ve been saying this for years, I’ve never liked him. Only way it makes sense to keep him is if his $$$$ is low, which I don’t see happening.

[Royale with Cheese]

1 hour ago, billsbackto81 said:

He's not horrible. He's the DE equivalent of Star at DT. Serviceable, but a bad return on investment.

 

God I hate looking at players from a GM perspective.😒

Serviceable is a good word. 

[YattaOkasan]

20 hours ago, AlCowlingsTaxiService said:

I feel the same way about our suddenly vaunted run game, being able to run against two lousy defenses.

Not gonna get into the edmunds stuff. You don’t need to feel good about what our OL did in the falcons game, but the Jets have legit talent on the DL. It doesn’t come through in their stats but I feel really good with how the OL handled the Jets DL. 

[damj]

The problem with Edmunds is that some team will probably throw stupid money at him, probably north of $15mil/year. I don't think he's worth that kind of money. That's why I'm saying they'll be stupid to re-sign him at that price. 

[Mat68]

14 hours ago, damj said:

The problem with Edmunds is that some team will probably throw stupid money at him, probably north of $15mil/year. I don't think he's worth that kind of money. That's why I'm saying they'll be stupid to re-sign him at that price. 

How do you go about replacing him?  Rookie to run the defense on a super bowl contender?  Fa?  Who is an upgrade or gives you close to the same for less money?

Edited January 11, 2022 by Mat68

[Max Fischer]

20 hours ago, Buffalo Timmy said:

I am not a Edmunds basher but even I don't compare him favorably to Urlacher. I know we will pay him to keep him but I hope we don't pay him more than Darius Leonard.

 

This is a fallacy. NO ONE is suggesting Edmunds would get Darius Leonard money. No one.  

 

IMO, the Bills love Edmunds and believe he is a key reason for why the Bills are a Top 3 defense. It seems certain the Bills will pick up Edmunds' 5th year and then very likely to extend him for around the Sportrac estimate: 5 years, $66,905,730 - or $13,381,146.  Wouldn't be surprised if it's 5/$70. 

 

If the Bills want to replace him with a Free Agent, that's what it will cost (at least).  For those of you who want to replace him with a rookie, tell us how that's not a huge gamble, especially with the Bills in the late rounds and with other much more pressing needs. 

[NewEra]

22 hours ago, ArtVandalay said:

That's wrong.  Cash- wise he makes $5.9 MM this year after making $14.0 MM last year.  His cap figure this year is $8.2 MM. His average annual was $10 MM per year. 

 

He's been absolutely horrible and will be gone in the offseason.

He hasn’t been absolutely horrible….. severe overreaction 

[Max Fischer]

16 hours ago, damj said:

The problem with Edmunds is that some team will probably throw stupid money at him, probably north of $15mil/year. I don't think he's worth that kind of money. That's why I'm saying they'll be stupid to re-sign him at that price. 

 

Do you believe the Bills should pick up his 5th year at $12,716,000?  If not, how would you replace him?

[NewEra]

4 minutes ago, Max Fischer said:

 

This is a fallacy. NO ONE is suggesting Edmunds would get Darius Leonard money. No one.  

 

IMO, the Bills love Edmunds and believe he is a key reason for why the Bills are a Top 3 defense. It seems certain the Bills will pick up Edmunds' 5th year and then very likely to extend him for around the Sportrac estimate: 5 years, $66,905,730 - or $13,381,146.  Wouldn't be surprised if it's 5/$70. 

 

If the Bills want to replace him with a Free Agent, that's what it will cost (at least).  For those of you who want to replace him with a rookie, tell us how that's not a huge gamble, especially with the Bills in the late rounds and with other much more pressing needs. 

We already picked up his 5th year option.  He’ll play on it next year unless we extend him.  Oliver is the next 5th year option on the table and will definitely be picked up or extended.  He’s becoming the player that we envisioned him becoming when he was drafted in the top 10

[Mat68]

1 minute ago, Max Fischer said:

 

This is a fallacy. NO ONE is suggesting Edmunds would get Darius Leonard money. No one.  

 

IMO, the Bills love Edmunds and believe he is a key reason for why the Bills are a Top 3 defense. It seems certain the Bills will pick up Edmunds' 5th year and then very likely to extend him for around the Sportrac estimate: 5 years, $66,905,730 - or $13,381,146.  Wouldn't be surprised if it's 5/$70. 

 

If the Bills want to replace him with a Free Agent, that's what it will cost (at least).  For those of you who want to replace him with a rookie, tell us how that's not a huge gamble, especially with the Bills in the late rounds and with other much more pressing needs. 

Drought Bills thinking imo.  Random player isnt the best best at his position.  Let him walk because he wants too much money.  Spend the next 3 months watching youtube videos to find his replacement. Maybe they draft the guy you want.  Can complain its not the guy you wanted.  Neither are an upgrade.  Hey look that guy we let walk is on ESPN making plays.  Why cant we just pay our own guys.  Rinse and repeat.

[Max Fischer]

1 minute ago, NewEra said:

We already picked up his 5th year option.  He’ll play on it next year unless we extend him.  Oliver is the next 5th year option on the table and will definitely be picked up or extended.  He’s becoming the player that we envisioned him becoming when he was drafted in the top 10

 

I stand corrected.

 

IMO, Edmunds certainly outperformed the first for years of his contract, and believe he will still be a bargain with the 5th year averaged in. I have no reason to believe Edmunds won't be as good in Year 5 and beyond, which would make an extension not only preferable but close to a necessity.