ChronicAndKnuckles Posted December 13, 2021 Posted December 13, 2021 Decent in coverage and a complete liability in the run game. He has not lived up to his draft number at all and should not be re-signed. A borderline bust IMO. I'd rather put Milano an MLB w/ Klein taking his old spot. 1 1 Quote
Luka Posted December 14, 2021 Posted December 14, 2021 27 minutes ago, ChronicAndKnuckles said: Decent in coverage and a complete liability in the run game. He has not lived up to his draft number at all and should not be re-signed. A borderline bust IMO. I'd rather put Milano an MLB w/ Klein taking his old spot. Funny you say that because Milano was playing middle in some instances. I don't really care what they do as long as it includes getting rid of Edmunds. People have made excuses for this kid for 4 years now. If he doesn't get it yet, he's never going to. 2 Quote
ChronicAndKnuckles Posted December 14, 2021 Posted December 14, 2021 42 minutes ago, Luka said: Funny you say that because Milano was playing middle in some instances. I don't really care what they do as long as it includes getting rid of Edmunds. People have made excuses for this kid for 4 years now. If he doesn't get it yet, he's never going to. Yes, but I can't remember which game it was. Edmunds just doesn't make plays. I remember Klein making plays all the time last year. 5 sacks in his limited time playing. McDermott needs to cut his losses and move on. Quote
Floydboy12 Posted December 14, 2021 Posted December 14, 2021 Edmunds is great at running in late after the play is essentially over. Makes him look active. 1 Quote
Roundybout Posted December 14, 2021 Posted December 14, 2021 (edited) Wish we had Klein in on that Fournette run where Edmunds couldn't stop him in the backfield. I couldn't help but think that a backer like Roquan Smith absolutely decapitates Fournette instead of letting him get the first down. That's what's so disappointing about Edmunds; he just doesn't play with any physicality despite being built like a Greek god. I think his brother is having the same problems in Pittsburgh, so maybe it's a family thing. Who knows. Edited December 14, 2021 by BillsEnthusiast 1 Quote
Luka Posted December 14, 2021 Posted December 14, 2021 6 minutes ago, BillsEnthusiast said: Wish we had Klein in on that Fournette run where Edmunds couldn't stop him in the backfield. I couldn't help but think that a backer like Roquan Smith absolutely decapitates Fournette instead of letting him get the first down. That's what's so disappointing about Edmunds; he just doesn't play with any physicality despite being built like a Greek god. I think his brother is having the same problems in Pittsburgh, so maybe it's a family thing. Who knows. He's built like a 3-4 OLB. He's way out of scheme and position. 1 1 Quote
Bookie Man Posted December 14, 2021 Posted December 14, 2021 I really think he's more of a natural WLB. He could actually be really good on the outside. Would love to see this D with a good MLB and Edmunds outside. And a new DT. That's asking a lot and I know it will never happen though. 1 1 Quote
JaCrispy Posted December 14, 2021 Posted December 14, 2021 17 minutes ago, Luka said: He's built like a 3-4 OLB. He's way out of scheme and position. Watch him go somewhere else and be turned into a hell of a pass rusher...😉 2 Quote
LabattBlue Posted December 14, 2021 Posted December 14, 2021 Just now, JaCrispy said: Watch him go somewhere else and be turned into a hell of a pass rusher...😉 Have you watched him as a blitzer? He sucks at it. I’m not sure how any other team positions him to become a great pass rusher, unless they scheme where he is NEVER blocked. Quote
vincec Posted December 14, 2021 Posted December 14, 2021 30 minutes ago, Luka said: He's built like a 3-4 OLB. He's way out of scheme and position. He hasn’t shown anywhere near the pass rush skills to be a 3-4 OLB. Quote
Luka Posted December 14, 2021 Posted December 14, 2021 25 minutes ago, vincec said: He hasn’t shown anywhere near the pass rush skills to be a 3-4 OLB. Never said he'd be good at it. Just that's how he's built. Quote
Billy Zabka Posted December 14, 2021 Posted December 14, 2021 28 minutes ago, QCity said: Edmunds likes to hug guys down 8 yards past the line of scrimmage after being dragged a few yards. He was probably so shocked to finally be in the backfield here for once he forgot to make the tackle. He gets points for hitting the right hole and not running by the play. Quote
Thurman#1 Posted December 14, 2021 Posted December 14, 2021 7 hours ago, ChronicAndKnuckles said: Decent in coverage and a complete liability in the run game. He has not lived up to his draft number at all and should not be re-signed. A borderline bust IMO. I'd rather put Milano an MLB w/ Klein taking his old spot. Excellent in coverage. Excellent in getting fast to the edge on run downs. Has problems occasionally with run fits and needs to work on this but overall very solid in the run game. Yup, there are people out there who don't see it. Still true. It's not a coincidence that he's a captain, that they love him, that he's out there on every play they can possibly get him out there for, that he's a two-time Pro Bowler. Nor that the chances on him being re-signed - while it money is always a huge factor - are probably in the range of 70% - 90%. Quote
BruceVilanch Posted December 14, 2021 Posted December 14, 2021 On 12/12/2021 at 5:03 PM, 947 said: Even the Edmund apologists on this board have to admit it after this game. There's no way anyone could look at the impact Devin White is making in the same game, and say that Tremaine is anything but a major liability. But he did tip a pass today. And did I mention that he's still only 19 years old... As a former Edmunds apologist (lost my status around 1945 EST sunday) I am fully on board with moving on from him, I was wrong, and I am dumb. 1 Quote
Thurman#1 Posted December 14, 2021 Posted December 14, 2021 5 hours ago, ßookie_tech said: I really think he's more of a natural WLB. He could actually be really good on the outside. Would love to see this D with a good MLB and Edmunds outside. And a new DT. That's asking a lot and I know it will never happen though. Yeah, they'd probably be top three in the league in yards, points and DVOA. Oh, wait, they are. That should prolly tell us something. But for many, it won't. Quote
Adam727 Posted December 14, 2021 Posted December 14, 2021 I think the Bills should try their best to trade Edmunds this off-season. He's an average LB who is going to be looking for an elite LB contract and I don't think he's $10mil/year better than Klein. The Bills have very limited cap space next year and could use the $$ and picks. It probably won't happen, but if it did, does anyone know which team would be responsible for his salary next year since it's guaranteed? And any guesses what sort of compensation he would fetch? A 2nd maybe? 1 Quote
GETTOTHE50 Posted December 14, 2021 Posted December 14, 2021 1 hour ago, QCity said: wow I didn’t know it was that bad. he literally could have stopped him 2 yards behind the LOS if he ran right at him Tremaine is one of the big reasons why we lost this game. Too many key plays he missed 1 Quote
Bookie Man Posted December 14, 2021 Posted December 14, 2021 58 minutes ago, Thurman#1 said: Yeah, they'd probably be top three in the league in yards, points and DVOA. Oh, wait, they are. That should prolly tell us something. But for many, it won't. Really? You're happy with the run defense and pass rush? You're confident this unit can hold up against playoff teams? Quote
BobbyC81 Posted December 14, 2021 Posted December 14, 2021 On 12/12/2021 at 5:02 PM, JayBaller10 said: His lack of awareness in zone is one of his biggest problems. If he’d just recognize routes coming into his area and jump on that receiver, he’d be far more impactful than standing in a spot and running to the ball after the catch is made. He’s a coverage linebacker who isn’t great in coverage. His length and athleticism are his greatest attributes but he hardly uses them. Yeah, I want a MLB in the mold of Mike Singletary. Hyper, very aggressive, smells out plays before the O-linemen even get to him, like those plays Milano made in the 4th Qtr vs New England. 1 Quote
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