Even in a loss, Allen is MVP

[ngbills]

Allen is the best player on this team. I don’t blame him for the 7-6 record.

If we are being really look at our 7 wins. Go watch the replays if you need to.  With Mitch we are minimum 6-7. The D dominated in those wins and the opponents played awful. Honestly I can’t recall a game we have won that was a game that you would say both teams played well. Hence our record in close games. 

[GymShorts84]

19 minutes ago, ngbills said:

Disagree. What games have we won this year because of him? Not saying I don’t want him but that just is not true this year. He has kept us close but a bad loss does not count any different than a close one. We are 7-6 and our 7 wins were mostly easy ones. 

4 players in NFL history have run for 100 yards and passed for 300. I hope we can agree the Bills do not have a strong run game. He cannot rely on another player to take over a game. He’s not Brady or Rodgers, but he’s our entire Offense. 
 

The last 2 losses have sucked, but we live and die with his performance. Other QBs have the luxury of a defense respecting the run game. 
 

I don’t know who to blame anymore, the O line or the run scheme. 

[McBean]

Sean McDermott cost his team this game.

[Jerome007]

30 minutes ago, Buffalo Barbarian said:

He almost wins us the game if he wasn't so close to the sideline

If his ankle was fine that run was probably a TD

 

That's what is so frustrating this year, just a few minor differences here and there and those L are W. 

 

Allen is a baller. A sure thing. The franchise QB long looked for.

 

Now if the Bills can WIN THOSE LAST 4 GAMES!!! They might still turn it around.

[Utah John]

7 minutes ago, GymShorts84 said:

4 players in NFL history have run for 100 yards and passed for 300. I hope we can agree the Bills do not have a strong run game. He cannot rely on another player to take over a game. He’s not Brady or Rodgers, but he’s our entire Offense. 
 

The last 2 losses have sucked, but we live and die with his performance. Other QBs have the luxury of a defense respecting the run game. 
 

I don’t know who to blame anymore, the O line or the run scheme. 

The O line, hands down.

[Chaos]

It should be fairly easy to build a defense that gives up 33 points a game without using high draft picks and free agency allocations.  It seems hard to build an offense that scores more than 33 points a game without making a meaningful investment. 

[ngbills]

7 minutes ago, GymShorts84 said:

4 players in NFL history have run for 100 yards and passed for 300. I hope we can agree the Bills do not have a strong run game. He cannot rely on another player to take over a game. He’s not Brady or Rodgers, but he’s our entire Offense. 
 

The last 2 losses have sucked, but we live and die with his performance. Other QBs have the luxury of a defense respecting the run game. 
 

I don’t know who to blame anymore, the O line or the run scheme. 

Our defense played well the second half today and last week. Would you have taken the D holding TB to 27? I would have expected we need 30 or more to beat them. Early bad play, conservative nonsense cost us. Not on the D or Allen. 

[Buffalo Barbarian]

1 minute ago, Jerome007 said:

If his ankle was fine that run was probably a TD

 

That's what is so frustrating this year, just a few minor differences here and there and those L are W. 

 

Allen is a baller. A sure thing. The franchise QB long looked for.

 

Now if the Bills can WIN THOSE LAST 4 GAMES!!! They might still turn it around.

 

i dont think a good foot keeps him in bounds , he ran normally on that play, probably hurt later but the adrenaline kept running good.

 

 

[97bills]

14 minutes ago, BillsFan130 said:

You would be in for a rude awakening how bad this team would be without him.

 

They would be in contention for a top 5 draft pick.

I’m thinking number one pick, I mean they can not run or pass block, that’s impossible to over come but Allen dose some how, but I don’t like him taking all those hits. We need a running back bad that can make a guy miss and get some yards. Allen does everything 

[Jerome007]

1 minute ago, 97bills said:

I’m thinking number one pick, I mean they can not run or pass block, that’s impossible to over come but Allen dose some how, but I don’t like him taking all those hits. We need a running back bad that can make a guy miss and get some yards. Allen does everything 

Not that's untrue, but the 1st run by a RB was in the 3rd quarter! On the fake punt! The Bills run game is bad but not THAT bad. 

[BillsFan130]

Just now, 97bills said:

I’m thinking number one pick, I mean they can not run or pass block, that’s impossible to over come but Allen dose some how, but I don’t like him taking all those hits. We need a running back bad that can make a guy miss and get some yards. Allen does everything 

True.

They still have a defence who can beat up on bad teams though.

 

So I would say probably a 5-6 win team.

 

But you may be right.

[D. L. Hot-Flamethrower]

Threads like this are always so good for finding posters who should be ignored. You know the ones who thinks it's the QBs job to overcome everything around him and always win. It's a TEAM game!

[Mr. K]

He played with his big boy pants on today. Seems like he willed them back into the game.

[Niagara Dude]

1 hour ago, whorlnut said:

Where would this team be without him?

He is stud and just only going to get better, get him some better protection and another WR/ RB and he will be lights out.

Edited December 13, 2021 by Niagara Dude

[SoCal Deek]

He needs to finish. Otherwise he’s… Phillip Rivers. 

[Roundybout]

Just now, SoCal Deek said:

He needs to finish. Otherwise he’s… Phillip Rivers. 

 

Pathetic. Utterly pathetic. 

[UKBillFan]

Josh was fantastic in the second half today - basically showing everyone what is ceiling is and more.

 

The horrible issue is… we haven’t won a close one so far this year. Every close game has been a loss. Seasons cannot be sustained on that; if we’re on offense at the two minute warning we have to make it count. Yes, there were mitigating circumstances today but we still couldn’t get over the line.

Edited December 13, 2021 by UKBillFan

[Buffalo Barbarian]

They just asked Josh if they thought about holding him out because of the foot and he said there was NO WAY he was coming out.

 

 

[GymShorts84]

7 minutes ago, ngbills said:

Our defense played well the second half today and last week. Would you have taken the D holding TB to 27? I would have expected we need 30 or more to beat them. Early bad play, conservative nonsense cost us. Not on the D or Allen. 

I understand your thoughts. Offense needs to score points in the  1st half but the D gave up 24 points and a lot of yards. I don’t want to accept that a scenario that we needed to score 30, because that seems like a score that guarantees a win, and unreasonable on the road. 
 

a win would have been a momentum building turning point, the loss still might. 

 

[Einstein]

1 hour ago, Simon said:

4-9?

3-10?

 

That’s generous, depending on the replacement QB you choose.