Week 14 Gameday Bills at Buccaneers Postgame thread

[Governor]

1 minute ago, Mat68 said:

The fake was worst.  At that point the first run by a Rb too.  Have Josh get 3 yards.  Probably hindsight go for both with the offense.  At worst they pick up 1 of them.  

Now THAT was a stupid call.

[JGMcD2]

Just now, Gene1973 said:

What I said initially is what the ref saw. You seem to be saying the ref purposely made a bad call, because the game is rigged yadda. I tend to think human refs miss things.

That’s not what I said. Don’t put words in my mouth… just like you shouldn’t put your interpretation on what you thought the ref saw. 

[Bruffalo]

Just now, Gene1973 said:

What I said initially is what the ref saw. You seem to be saying the ref purposely made a bad call, because the game is rigged yadda. I tend to think human refs miss things.

I understand what you're trying to say, but there's no excuse for them to miss clear and obvious penalties.  These aren't ticky tack to the letter of the rule calls, it's apparent and clear in the moment to everyone but that ref.

[BillsFan692]

NFL wants Bucs VS NE this year and the fix is in, book it!

Edited December 13, 2021 by BillsFan692

[Nitro]

McD will have to divorce himself from the old conservative head coach thinking.  The NFL has changed.  Going for it on fourth down is now the trend.  Red Zone offense is stagnant.  Have to be smart, innovative and aggressive.  They are none of these. 

[Wyobills89]

DANG! guys we can still take the division! Had a blast. So close but so far away!

[MPT]

12 minutes ago, Groin said:

Of course that is NOT what I said, and that makes you a liar.  SHOW ME where I wrote what you said.  Show me one place.  You can't.

 

23 minutes ago, Groin said:

Absolutely, they got the calls

 

Considering "the calls" we're talking about resulted in a 14 point loss for us and a 7 point gain for the Bucs (a net of 21 points) I think it's a given that we would have won otherwise.

[Boatdrinks]

19 minutes ago, Gene1973 said:

So the Bills were not the benefit of a bad PI call against the Rams last season?

They were , however they are not a team that historically gets many of those type calls / non calls. Purely a blind squirrel finding a nut situation. 

[Nitro]

14 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said:

 

 

Thanks for sharing.  It points out the shortcomings in the officiating.

[Vertig0]

1 minute ago, Gene1973 said:

It's not ignorance. You are demanding the officiating gets "better". That demand is only about 30-40 years old if not more... So just keep whinning about officiating for another 40 years? Thats like whinning that taxes exist...

 

How about the Bills just get some better players and coaches? Maybe if they do that, they win more games.

 

How about you learn some new, less cynical takes? 

 

Both teams were equally as good and bad. The game was tied after 4 quarters of football. 

 

Like it or not, the refs played a part in why the Bucs won. Their "better players and coaches" didn't. Two calls/non calls gave them an advantage, whether you like it or not, and eventually secured them a win. 

 

Yeah if we were better overall, we win. No *****. If they're better overall they win without going to OT. It was an equal game and crucial penalty calls played a huge factor. Like it or not, it's what happened. 

[MPT]

1 minute ago, Gene1973 said:

What is your solution exactly? 

 

Mine is, the Bills get better. 

 

Yours is the refs get better, be held more accountable? When do you think that will happen, because me, I'm thinking never...

 

Again, you're accidently identifying the problem.

[aristocrat]

John Harbaugh had the clip earlier this season I think it was asking Lamar Jackson if he wanted to go for it at a point in a game....why didn't Mcd ask Allen that early on? Getting a td changes the mindset of the team. 

[Mat68]

Just now, Hapless Bills Fan said:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Sounds stupid but I felt like the season has been like Major league 2.  All the guys are back but paid and have no fire.  Then they fight and come together.  The second half is what they have been chasing all year imo.  

[atlbillsfan1975]

15 minutes ago, Gene1973 said:

If you want to win a SB, you have to keep the refs' fingers out of your business as much as possible.

 

Because at this point in time, the NFL still has human refs who make human mistakes.

 

On both of those calls, it is very easy for me to see how and why they made the call thet did. And I have seen them make those same calls in many games, not just this game.

 

There is nothing that can be done about it. They tried the replay for PI and the refs basically boycotted the mechanic by not overturning anything. They saw it as an affront to their authority.

Easy to see?! Do you think they made the right call on Levi Wallace’s  PI in the fourth quarter? It was less contact than that on Diggs. You are as wrong as the refs. Double standard are the problem I have. Just call it the same way. 

[Boatdrinks]

1 minute ago, Gene1973 said:

i think the excuse would be they missed it, like when a player misses a block, throws a bad pass, or loses the ball in the air and doesn't make a catch.

All the more reason to not crap part of the game away and get down 24-3.

Again the sequence of events doesn’t matter, just the score . If the two teams had traded scores all day those calls would still be decisive at the end of a close game. It really doesn’t matter HOW a game because close, just that it WAS close. 

[JGMcD2]

6 minutes ago, Gene1973 said:

What is your solution exactly? 

 

Mine is, the Bills get better. 

 

Yours is the refs get better, be held more accountable? When do you think that will happen, because me, I'm thinking never...

Yeah, the solution is hold the referees accountable when 54% of your games are decide by 1 score and a bad call can sway that result… that’s the exact solution. 

[HalftimeAdjustment]

38 minutes ago, Miyagi-Do Karate said:

i hated the call. But how do you argue with hindsight? It worked out perfectly. 

 

Not really, the Bills lost. My argument is that if we scored earlier, we might have won in regulation.

[Bruffalo]

3 minutes ago, Gene1973 said:

i think the excuse would be they missed it, like when a player misses a block, throws a bad pass, or loses the ball in the air and doesn't make a catch.

I'd argue that for a referee of a multi-billion dollar sport, missing a clear and obvious call that is clear and obvious in the moment is inexcusable and should be shamed, not handwaved away.  

[Mrbojanglezs]

NFL wants a Bucs Pats SB bad, it shows. #rigged

[JGMcD2]

5 minutes ago, Gene1973 said:

i think the excuse would be they missed it, like when a player misses a block, throws a bad pass, or loses the ball in the air and doesn't make a catch.

Except when a player missed a block, throws a bad pass or loses the ball in the air… those are errors made by actually participants in the game. That’s fine… because you know… they’re the ones who are supposed to decide the outcome in a game.

 

Not the impartial 3rd party facilitating the game….