Week 14 Gameday Bills at Buccaneers Postgame thread

[JGMcD2]

  On 12/13/2021 at 6:38 PM, Radar said:

So tired of Bills fans blaming refs. News flash! Tampa won and is the better team. Two third downs couldn't stop them in crunch time......typical Bills defense. Stats aside they aren't good at crunch time. Josh and company were good enough to get to over time. Oh, we complain about refs after NE game. Better team and way better coaching than us. Wake up guys this team is not that good. Thankfully this season is showing that we need to improve in many areas.

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Blaming the refs is warranted when it’s an obvious missed call. This game was blatantly one-sided when it came to penalties. They didn’t just miss a call in the endzone. They let 3 separate PI/defensive holdings go and then turned an OPI into DPI. 
 

Couldn’t stop them in crunch time? Bro they held them to 3 points in the 2nd half… if that’s not crunch time… then what is? 
 

Who was complaining about the refs after the NE game? They barely called anything. Only issue was the gift of a 1st down to Mac Jones on 4th down… but it is what it is. 

[Patrick Duffy]

  On 12/13/2021 at 7:17 PM, D. L. Hot-Flamethrower said:

You too huh! I got the same thing.

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Lol, wondering how similar both of our responses were??  I responded...."Same reason it always was for basically 2 decades when playing against Brady and Pats, so it's same circus but different clowns" lol,  

 

How different was your response???lol

Edited December 13, 2021 by Sheneneh Jenkins

[RichRiderBills]

If we ran that well executed QB sweep 2-3 times versus NE we would have won that game.

 

 

[Apocalypse Nuts]

  On 12/13/2021 at 1:42 AM, BeastMaster said:

This is the just happy to be here attitude that will never get you to the ultimate goal.

 

I reject everything about your post because it's a loser mentality

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Whatever, Jack.   I reject your contention that I have a "loser mentality."   But you go ahead and keep stressing out all you want then.  That's a crappy mentality. 

[Logic]

  On 12/13/2021 at 7:24 PM, Bimmer323i said:

On the over reaction podcast they mentioned how different our offense looked when Sanders left the game and Davis was inserted into the line up… I noticed that to but can’t put my finger on why.. Is Gabe a bigger target is he faster, whats your guys opinion on that???

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I think he is a vastly superior run blocker and a better deep threat.

The former can turn a 6 yard run into a 26 yard run. The latter can add chunk plays on offense and change the way the defense is playing your offense.

Davis should be full time WR2 going forward, if you ask me. I've seen enough. The results are in. He offers more than Sanders at this point.

Sanders should be splitting time with Beasley, not Davis.

[Since1981]

  On 12/13/2021 at 8:35 PM, Logic said:

Davis should be full time 

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Davis needs to be on the field, period. Sanders, meh. It's pretty evident.

Anyone watch that Colts playoff game last year? I have never seen catches like that before or since.

 

[Fan in Chicago]

  On 12/13/2021 at 6:15 PM, reddogblitz said:

 

 

I agree with the other poster who says you don't put the entire game on one play when you don't have to.  Play better in OT.  We had the football first. Do something with it. 

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Also see Harbaugh's decision last week against the Steelers. He could have gone for the FG at end of regulation to tie the game and try to win in OT but he makes this "gutsy/ballsy" call to go for two, the Ravens dont make it, game over. Sometimes it is better to play smart than go all in - the probability of making an XP is far more than a 2 pt conversion. 

[Patrick Duffy]

  On 12/13/2021 at 8:44 PM, ScottLaw said:

You take the best player off the field to run a fake?… and that 4th and 3 call to punt was so puss. To this point the guy is mostly only aggressive when the team is winning… he crawls into a shell when the team is losing and calls for aggressive decisions. 

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Agree, it's the best chance to convert that way Daboll can screw it all up. Lol maybe that's part of reason why the fake was called...

 

Anyway agree 

[reddogblitz]

  On 12/13/2021 at 6:36 PM, mannc said:

Well, in the Tennessee game, they were marching up and down the field on us, so by your logic, going for the win in regulation was definitely the right call.

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Not necessarily.  We were also scoring points in that game. Perhaps we win the toss and score a TD first.  I take that chance over putting whole game on one play.

 

The right call is the one that works.

Edited December 13, 2021 by reddogblitz

[Since1981]

  On 12/13/2021 at 8:08 PM, RichRiderBills said:

QB sweep 2-3 times versus NE

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I predicted vs. NE Josh would be 100+ yds expected wind--sadly, they didn't listen to me.

What happened planning and adapting in Q1??

 

Cases 1, 2:

1) NE game plan 1H: 0 pass, 0 QB run----until Q3.

2) TB game plan 1H: 0 RB----until Q3

 

lost by 1 score.

ran out of clock in both

=crazy.

  On 12/13/2021 at 8:52 PM, Since1981 said:

I predicted vs. NE Josh would be 100+ yds expected wind--sadly, they didn't listen to me.

What happened planning and adapting in Q1??

 

Cases 1, 2:

1) NE game plan 1H: 0 pass, 0 QB run----until Q3.

2) TB game plan 1H: 0 RB----until Q3

 

lost by 1 score.

ran out of clock in both

=crazy.

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BTW,

You never want a coordinator "where studio puts the graphic up showing today team 'broke 40 yr records for....fewest or most for super bowl era."

[Boatdrinks]

  On 12/13/2021 at 8:50 PM, reddogblitz said:

 

Not necessarily.  We were also scoring points in that game. Perhaps we win the toss and score a TD first.  I take that chance over putting whole game on one play.

 

The right call is the one that works.

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What they weren’t doing though was stopping the Titans. They had scored in quite a few consecutive drives ( can’t recall how many) . I’m certain that played a huge factor in that decision. I don’t want to leave it up to a coin toss. I can’t fault McD for putting the game in the hands of the team’s best player when the opportunity is there. 

[reddogblitz]

  On 12/13/2021 at 9:05 PM, Boatdrinks said:

What they weren’t doing though was stopping the Titans. They had scored in quite a few consecutive drives ( can’t recall how many) . I’m certain that played a huge factor in that decision. I don’t want to leave it up to a coin toss. I can’t fault McD for putting the game in the hands of the team’s best player when the opportunity is there. 

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I see your point.  In today's go for it craze it makes sense (to some) to go for it. I love Josh too but I don't put a winnable game all on one play unless its like the last play.

 

I can agree that in this situation there really is no "right call".  Either could work and either could fail.  The execution was what caused both of these calls to fail.  Josh slipping vs Tennessee and us not scoring when we had the football first in OT.

 

I prefer to kick FG for tie and you prefer to go for it.

 

Cool.

[MAJBobby]

Allen got out with a foot sprain. He will be playing Sunday
 

McSpineless says Day to Day. 

Edited December 13, 2021 by MAJBobby

[LABILLBACKER]

  On 12/13/2021 at 8:35 PM, Logic said:

I think he is a vastly superior run blocker and a better deep threat.

The former can turn a 6 yard run into a 26 yard run. The latter can add chunk plays on offense and change the way the defense is playing your offense.

Davis should be full time WR2 going forward, if you ask me. I've seen enough. The results are in. He offers more than Sanders at this point.

Sanders should be splitting time with Beasley, not Davis.

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I couldn't AGREE more...shutting down Davis during the middle of this season to appease the veteran Sanders was so incredibly stupid. The pecking order should always have been Diggs, Davis, Beasley and Sanders. In that order.  And their collective targets should've reflected that. Another mistake by McDabs....

[Patrick Duffy]

  On 12/13/2021 at 8:50 PM, reddogblitz said:

 

Not necessarily.  We were also scoring points in that game. Perhaps we win the toss and score a TD first.  I take that chance over putting whole game on one play.

 

The right call is the one that works.

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I get it and each situation obviously is different, but imo it was the right call in Tenn. Believe Bills were inside the 5 or close to it if I'm not mistaken. The way they were moving the ball I had no problem with the call to try and get out of Tenn with a W.

 

I wouldn't have kicked the FG for OT due to the way Tenn and Henry were having their way with Bills D and wouldn't want to take the chance on them getting ball to start OT because chances are they march right down the field easily same way they  did all game.

 

Either way I see the reasons for both going for win and going to OT, but I thought it was the correct call and had no issue with it

[D. L. Hot-Flamethrower]

  On 12/13/2021 at 8:04 PM, Sheneneh Jenkins said:

 

Lol, wondering how similar both of our responses were??  I responded...."Same reason it always was for basically 2 decades when playing against Brady and Pats, so it's same circus but different clowns" lol,  

 

How different was your response???lol

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yeah it was something like , you never want the game to be in the officials hands when you play Brady or NE!

Edited December 13, 2021 by D. L. Hot-Flamethrower

[YoloinOhio]

 

[Dan]

  On 12/13/2021 at 10:44 PM, YoloinOhio said:

 

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Whatever you wanna call it... do it more regardless of the opponent.  
 

Sometimes I think our coaches out think themselves with all these game specific plans and player rotations.   Find some ***** that works and stick with it!

[Stank_Nasty]

 

[nedboy7]

I think it is the perfect game for JA to sit and heal. 

 

 

Edited December 13, 2021 by nedboy7