Week 14 Gameday Bills at Buccaneers Pregame thread

[SCBills]

1 hour ago, Process said:

Meanwhile Lamar gets praised every week for carrying the Ravens on his back and having to do everything.

 

There is no team in the league more reliant on their QB then the Bills. Zero run game, average group of skill position players, garbage play calling, awful o line. 

 

If Lamar sucks the media will find a million excuses, and even spin it into a case for him to be MVP. Allen has a bad day and he can't be trusted, he's inconsistent, not elite yada yada.

 

It's comical really.

Yup.. people act like most teams don’t have legit WRs when college produces a handful every draft class.   Only Diggs, Beasley and Knox have above average skill/talent for their position.  
 

Sanders and Davis are solid.   Our RBs are average, at best.   Factor in an OL that’s a league worst at run blocking and somehow below average in pass pro and no other team except, maybe Lamar who’s also asked to do alot, is asked to do more.  

[LyndonvilleBill]

33 minutes ago, HappyDays said:

I will feel good about this game if I see that McKenzie and/or Stevenson is active and Moss is inactive. That will tell me Daboll finally figured out his best personnel grouping 14 weeks into the season. I also hope McDermott doesn't coach scared and allows Breida to get his touches today even with his fumbling risk. This is not a game where we can come in with a "grind it out with zero mistakes" mindset. We need to come in with a shootout mindset. We will not score enough points against the Bucs if we only feature Singletary and Moss and try to go shotgun empty pop pass all day.

 

The defense is not going to win the game for us. We are going to feel the loss of Tre White bad in this one. I'm not even going to be mad at the defense if the Bucs put up 30 points. I expect that to happen. It's on Daboll and the offense to figure it out. It is in fact possible to win games where the opponent scores 30+ points especially when you have an elite QB and an elite WR. No excuses.

I'm hoping for both Lil Dirty and Stevenson. Stevenson for K/PR and Mckensie on Offense. Torn between Breida and Moss. Moss is a much better blocker and if we go pass heavy, might be better having Moss and if Mckensie plays O, he can handle the screens or whatever Breida would do. Tough decision between Breida and Moss for me.🤔

[letsgoteam]

ugh, if only the Bills drafted Gronk...

[The Frankish Reich]

15 minutes ago, SCBills said:

Yup.. people act like most teams don’t have legit WRs when college produces a handful every draft class.   Only Diggs, Beasley and Knox have above average skill/talent for their position.  
 

Sanders and Davis are solid.   Our RBs are average, at best.   Factor in an OL that’s a league worst at run blocking and somehow below average in pass pro and no other team except, maybe Lamar who’s also asked to do alot, is asked to do more.  

Yep. This year is showing us how far you can go (or maybe how far you can't go) with an elite QB, an elite WR, and average to well below average talent at every other offensive position.

[Chandler#81]

36 minutes ago, Draconator said:

 

I never claimed to be a grammar expert. 

Nor a football expert 

32 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said:

 

This pumped me up!

[Beast]

15 minutes ago, SCBills said:

Yup.. people act like most teams don’t have legit WRs when college produces a handful every draft class.   Only Diggs, Beasley and Knox have above average skill/talent for their position.  
 

Sanders and Davis are solid.   Our RBs are average, at best.   Factor in an OL that’s a league worst at run blocking and somehow below average in pass pro and no other team except, maybe Lamar who’s also asked to do alot, is asked to do more.  

 

I've seen Brady win multiple Super Bowls with less talent at WR than we have. A lot less.

 

It's time to quit ***** around and pretending we have a running game. We don't have one. Pass the ball 90 percent of the time and start getting creative in the passing game.

 

Enough is enough.

[The Frankish Reich]

2 minutes ago, letsgoteam said:

ugh, if only the Bills drafted Gronk...

Pretty sure we would have drafted Dan Gronkowski.

[Chandler#81]

1 hour ago, Dopey said:

That shout song should have been retired from our rotation already. Annoying.

How very Dopey of you.

[YoloinOhio]

2 hours ago, Mr. K said:

20 years later were doing the same thing expecting different results. Dont usually schedule customers on Sundays this time of year but  I've got a couple jobs lined up today. Kill time before the game and give me an out if it gets ugly. Hedge those bets baby.

Ok I had to look it up. 20 years ago we did play Tom Brady on 12/16/21. Bills came into that game 2-10 and Pats 8-5. Bills lost in 0T 12-9 that day to the eventual SB champs. QB rob Johnson. HC Gregggggo. So I’m guessing we weren’t doing  the same thing 20 years ago!

Edited December 12, 2021 by YoloinOhio

[Freddie's Dead]

22 minutes ago, TuelTime said:

Don't get me wrong, not a big fan of Brady, but he gets my respect. Never seen him do anything as malicious as what Gronk did to Tre..

 

The Cheating Reign must come to an end.

[The Frankish Reich]

1 minute ago, YoloinOhio said:

Ok I had to look it up. 20 years ago we did play Tom Brady on 12/16/21. Bills came into that game 2-10 and Pats 8-5. Bills lost in 0T 12-9 that day to the eventual SB champs. QB rob Johnson. HC Gregggggo. So I’m guessing we weren’t expecting the same thing 20 years ago!

Regardless of expectations/results ... I still have trouble wrapping my head around the idea that we're facing off against the SAME DAMN QB two decades later. I mean, basically nothing in my life is the same as it was 20 years ago. Except that.

[SCBills]

5 minutes ago, Beast said:

 

I've seen Brady win multiple Super Bowls with less talent at WR than we have. A lot less.

 

It's time to quit ***** around and pretending we have a running game. We don't have one. Pass the ball 90 percent of the time and start getting creative in the passing game.

 

Enough is enough.

Brady has seemingly always had an OL.  
 

Different QB than Allen, which will always lend itself to less pressure, but Allen is deadly with time… we just haven’t been able to give him much. 

[Brianmoorman4jesus]

Special teams has never been less important in the nfl. There’s a flag on every return. There are a ton of touchbacks, nobody is having punt return TDs and teams are going for it more then ever on 4th down. Stop ***** worrying about ST Only guys and get McKenzie Stevenson and Brieda active. Stop wasting all of these roster spots for STs. It’s not the 80s. It barely matters now. Activate as many guys as possible that can help you score on offense 

[YoloinOhio]

6 minutes ago, The Frankish Reich said:

Regardless of expectations/results ... I still have trouble wrapping my head around the idea that we're facing off against the SAME DAMN QB two decades later. I mean, basically nothing in my life is the same as it was 20 years ago. Except that.

I will be throwing my own Tom Brady retirement party whenever it finally happens, trust me 

[The Frankish Reich]

4 minutes ago, SCBills said:

Brady has seemingly always had an OL.  

Not always, but every season with the Pats they were able to paste together something decent even when it started very poorly. That's my big disappointment with the Bills this year. I thought it would come together with some group/offensive approach by now, but it really hasn't.

[JakeFrommStateFarm]

Wait a minute.

 

Who's covering Gronk ?

[teef]

1 hour ago, Gugny said:

 

@teef - Happy Sunday!

 

 

 

Oh gross.  

[BuffaloBillyG]

6 minutes ago, JakeFrommStateFarm said:

Wait a minute.

 

Who's covering Gronk ?

I mean, I'll try my best but my knees are shot, I'm 46 and didn't sleep well last night. 

[BassToMouth]

1 hour ago, ScottLaw said:

Brady about to go 33-3 against the Bills…. Pretty incredible.

Damn. Given that those are the numbers that can be achieved if he wins today, almost a guaranteed Bucs victory. Great.

[DrPJax]

3 hours ago, Chaos said:

Jonathan Taylor and Carson Wentz hung 41 on the Bills.  Fournette and Brady will be an even bigger challenge for the defense.  This is d-day for the defense. 

     Hey!  This is a bad feeling game. Brady reportedly saying this game is their biggest game en route to the #1 seed. He leads the league in all meaningful  qb stats,,,,not like close to the lead, he is actually #1 in most stats.    Josh unfortunately has 9-7 td ratio over his last few games in addition to the L’s.   He’s not to blame; sims pointed out the lack of creativity, lack of motion etc, and pointed out this offense is definitely worse than last year. He made a great point ; there are blue chippers Allen/ Diggs and then the rest of the offense is mediocre. He pointed out sanders can’t take the top off the d as good as Brown did ( has been true regardless of 40 times) All very valid points. Then there’s the elephant in everyone’s room, the lack of any run game to help take the pressure off Josh.  Honestly , there really is Josh throwing or running and there is nothing else. 
 

Daboll has failed miserably this year and Mcd’s comments after the loss about failed opportunities, is similar to his comments about Rick Dennison who was sent packing. Daboll is coaching for his Bills future but what have we seen that suggests some sudden fix with this o with a porous line and in all honesty, a support cast that is under performing ?  
 

Frazier also will prob be gone next year.  That might be good; three games giving up over 200 yards rushing and when you watch analysts break down the run D , it’s a repeat show of terrible technique on the d line and “ LBs on skates” !    TB has two good backs in addition to 2 amazing wrs ( evans & godwin) and throw in gronk.   Man , this has the look to me of an absolute blowout.  This Bills team is playing very spotty, but one thing that seems constant is if they get behind, they press and mistakes worsen and they just don’t come back this year.  So many bad matchups , a team with coaching and philosophical in battles , no confidence against a qb they never sack who owns them , and this looks like an easy call.  ( and I forgot to mention their best cb , white , being out which makes the over / under on his replacement being torched at maybe 1/2 quarter) 

 

Of course that’s why they play the games tho, anything could happen right, like that vikes game we once pulled off!  It snowed once here in Jax after I moved here from Ohio in ‘85.  That was a really neat day for me as it gave me feelings of being home, ; would love that feeling again and I think us beating the Bucs has about the same probability, about 1/ 35 times ! It’s at least cloudy today here , so that’s a great start!  Lol! 😀.