Star is out - toe injury

[BIGFOOTspaceman]

2 hours ago, Niagara Dude said:

Star is making the Bills decision to release easier and easier

Just out of curiosity, what are the ramifications if he is cut now or later?  If there is no difference I’m all for cutting him….I doubt he cares either way. 

[Sherlock Holmes]

3 hours ago, First Round Bust said:

check week14 injuries

 

https://www.nfl.com/injuries/

 

Star is out with toe injury - no other details given - such as turf toe or not...sigh

Stick a ***** fork in him...his rump roast is done!🤮

[JohnNord]

40 minutes ago, ChronicAndKnuckles said:

 

Star isn't solely responsible for those games and that's only a couple, anyway. As much doom & gloom there is on this forum, Buffalo Bills still have the #1 defense in the league to my knowledge.

He occupies space ok but he’s just not that good.  You’ll get to see a very good DT Sunday in Vita Vea who is a monster and everything Star is not 

[97bills]

1 hour ago, FilthyBeast said:

Sooner or later Beane is going to run out of former overrated Panthers players to bring to Buffalo.

 

But at least this is the last season we are going to see a lot of these guys in a Bills uniform.

No kidding 

[billvernsays]

3 hours ago, Buffalo619 said:

We need to find a DT and MLB in free agency in offseason. Draft OLine and RB. 

Could’ve had Zach Cunningham Thursday 

[Governor]

It’s unreal that the fan base got played for so long by this clown. This is another “McBeane” special.

[Governor]

2 hours ago, Buffalo Barbarian said:

Thats not good, cant they pump these guys full of pain killers, guys are getting soft ,LETS GO !!! 😁😁

 

 

 

Yeah but we need him this year

 

 

For what? There’s no harm in cutting him right now.

[PatsFanNH]

3 hours ago, 727Bills said:

We have some tough guys in here that seem to think a toe injury can easily be played through. It's only on a limb that gets used every time you play football and needs to carry your entire body weight plus that of possibly 2 or 3 other people at the same time. 

For a skill Position I agree, but a lineman? Hell I know one lineman (Mankins) played 8 games on a partially torn ACL and MCL.  I honestly don’t see how a toe keeps you out of an important game?

[clearwater cadet]

covid toe

[NewEra]

Maybe he has Covidbetes Toe

22 minutes ago, billvernsays said:

Could’ve had Zach Cunningham Thursday 

Except Cunningham can’t cover and is close to useless in our scheme

[TheyCallMeAndy]

[ControllerOfPlanetX]

..sounds like he hit the ROAD....Retired On Active Duty...

Edited December 11, 2021 by ControllerOfPlanetX

[RyanC883]

Bean did a great job here.  Overpay for Star, then not bring in any competition this past offseason.  That said, Star is an average player at his best, so this really can't be an excuse, but it is an issue because everyone else we have at 1T is below average (looking at you, Bean Boy)

[727Bills]

25 minutes ago, PatsFanNH said:

For a skill Position I agree, but a lineman? Hell I know one lineman (Mankins) played 8 games on a partially torn ACL and MCL.  I honestly don’t see how a toe keeps you out of an important game?

We don't know which toe, if it's a pinky toe or similar I'd have to agree, but if it's your big toe.... That's gonna be painful depending on what happened.  

 

In the past I have stupidly dropped heavy items on my toes (no steel toe boots) while growing up on a farm and the pain was bad and my ability to walk and do normal things was greatly affected, let alone what it would take to be an OL/DL in the NFL. 

 

Turf toe (while not what I had) is real and keeps many professional players out for periods of time. I'd imagine it's similar pain but cant speak from experience. 

 

I'm not a fan of Star myself but we don't even know the injury and people are calling for his head, it's crazy. 

[LABILLBACKER]

40 minutes ago, NewEra said:

Maybe he has Covidbetes Toe

Except Cunningham can’t cover and is close to useless in our scheme

Our scheme is wonderful until we get run over. Maybe next year we can request to play passing teams only. Get it done Pegula.....

[DabillsDaBillsDaBills]

55 minutes ago, Governor said:

For what? There’s no harm in cutting him right now.

 

Due to his contract restructuring there actually is harm to cut him right now. 

 

This season his active cap hit is 7.6mm and his dead cap would be 9.5mm. We'd be....shooting ourselves in the foot... if we released him right now. 

 

In 2022 his active cap hit is 9.4mm and if he's released we take on 5.1mm dead cap. 4.3mm in cap savings if we release him then. 

 

If we wait one more year until 2023 Star has an active cap of 9mm and no dead cap at all. 9mm in cap savings for that year. 

 

I'm guessing we'll release him in 2022 for the 4+mm savings. 

[LABILLBACKER]

4 hours ago, GETTOTHE50 said:

please cut his ass ASAP.

 

harry has a torn PCL and played his ass off last game. star is a cancer.

They should cut him Immediately. He's not going to contribute anyway. Guys like Beasley and Phillips play with much more issues. He's been such an overpaid disappointment. 

[BADOLBILZ]

2 hours ago, ChronicAndKnuckles said:

 

Star isn't solely responsible for those games and that's only a couple, anyway. As much doom & gloom there is on this forum, Buffalo Bills still have the #1 defense in the league to my knowledge.

 

 

To clarify........you said he is GREAT when he is on the field.

 

I never said anything about the Bills defensive ranking and the fact that they have played well despite his frequent absences is not the best proof of his greatness.    You're off on a tangent here.

 

Besides........having a #1 defense is about yardage allowed.   So the key is to be a good pass defense because it's about twice as hard to gain yardage on the ground in the NFL as it is in the air.    

 

Take the "L".........calling him great wasn't an accurate statement by any means.

[Returntoglory]

5 hours ago, 78thealltimegreat said:

Think it’s pretty obvious Star is playing his last few games as a Bill 

Playing? You're to ***** generous!

5 hours ago, 78thealltimegreat said:

Think it’s pretty obvious Star is playing his last few games as a Bill 

Playing? You're to ***** generous!

[BADOLBILZ]

13 minutes ago, LABILLBACKER said:

Our scheme is wonderful until we get run over. Maybe next year we can request to play passing teams only. Get it done Pegula.....

 

 

One of the things we are seeing though is that there are teams running for 200+ yards every week now and those teams aren't dominating the actual games.

 

TN ran for 270 and LOST to NE.   Minnesota ran for 242 and SHOULD have lost if Freiermuth can hold on to the very well thrown pass in the end zone last night.    NE ran for a bunch versus Buffalo but should have lost that game but for far too many unforced errors by Buffalo as well.

 

The reality is..........ground and pound isn't domination anymore.   Rushing yards used to have a greater impact back in the day when it was harder for teams to score fast or come back from larger deficits.   That's not the case now.