ShakAttack Posted December 8, 2021 Posted December 8, 2021 I almost made this question specific to Pats losses. With the well-known dominance of the Patriots over the past 20 some odd years, there have been SEVERAL seasons in which losing to the Pats rendered the Bills at a new low point. It is remarkable to me that every season (except 2020) we play this team and not only do they beat us, but they ALWAYS pour salt on the wound along with it in some way. There's ALWAYS some kind of negative impact towards the rest of our season that comes with it. This year for instance... Bills lose to Pats... suddenly our guys are walking out of press conferences... suddenly you have the usually tight-lipped McDermott throwing his players under the bus, throwing McKenzie under the bus, both publicly... suddenly you have fans saying McDermott has to go... there's starting to be perceived dysfunction within this group that not too long ago was described as a close knit family...... and it's all happening after the Patriots beat us. All of these things make it all the more difficult to digest and continues to fuel our hatred towards the Patriots. BUT... As I started to think about how long it takes me to process a Bills loss, I realized that it's pretty much the same with all of them, but with the Pats it is just amplified. So, I am asking about losses in general here. In other words, I'm asking how long does it take until you are OVER IT? When does the outcome of the game stop affecting your overall mood? For me, there are distinct stages in how I process a Bills loss to the Pats. The first 24 hours suck: I get depressed and it SUCKS. It affects my mood, my relationships, my energy/motivation, you name it. This is where I'll often wonder why the heck I care about this team so much in the first place? And how nice it would be to STOP caring about football because I hate the fact that it can literally ruin an entire day for me. And that entire day consists of periodically playing back EVERY missed opportunity from the game in my mind, and with each missed opportunity identified, the frustration grows. Then by day #2: The periodic reminiscing finally begins to subside and the rationalization process begins and at some point I'll land on a stupid-ass reason to remain hopeful, but this process of BS'ing myself (maybe) is essential to moving on for me because without that hope, there is not much to get excited about when you watch. FINALLY, by DAY #3, I've officially moved on to the upcoming game... So, what about YOU? I've always wondered if other Bills fans were as tormented by losses as I am. And if so, how long it took to stop thinking about it. Interested to hear the processing/coping mechanisms others have. That's right, I admit it... I NEED HELP!! 😆 3 2 2 Quote
Kingston Bills Fan Posted December 8, 2021 Posted December 8, 2021 Your not alone! I go through the same process, I wonder to myself if I should stop watching altogether if it’s too unhealthy to let it affect me this much but I love football and the Bills so I keep putting myself through it. Been a fan since 1990. 2 Quote
Peace Frog Posted December 8, 2021 Posted December 8, 2021 Still trying to get over Ronnie Harmon's drop in the AFCWC against the Browns back in '89. 3 5 1 Quote
CSBill Posted December 8, 2021 Posted December 8, 2021 (edited) 7 hours ago, BobBelcher said: I almost made this question specific to Pats losses. With the well-known dominance of the Patriots over the past 20 some odd years, there have been SEVERAL seasons in which losing to the Pats rendered the Bills at a new low point. It is remarkable to me that every season (except 2020) we play this team and not only do they beat us, but they ALWAYS pour salt on the wound along with it in some way. There's ALWAYS some kind of negative impact towards the rest of our season that comes with it. This year for instance... Bills lose to Pats... suddenly our guys are walking out of press conferences... suddenly you have the usually tight-lipped McDermott throwing his players under the bus, throwing McKenzie under the bus, both publicly... suddenly you have fans saying McDermott has to go... there's starting to be perceived dysfunction within this group that not too long ago was described as a close knit family...... and it's all happening after the Patriots beat us. All of these things make it all the more difficult to digest and continues to fuel our hatred towards the Patriots. BUT... As I started to think about how long it takes me to process a Bills loss, I realized that it's pretty much the same with all of them, but with the Pats it is just amplified. So, I am asking about losses in general here. In other words, I'm asking how long does it take until you are OVER IT? When does the outcome of the game stop affecting your overall mood? For me, there are distinct stages in how I process a Bills loss to the Pats. The first 24 hours suck: I get depressed and it SUCKS. It affects my mood, my relationships, my energy/motivation, you name it. This is where I'll often wonder why the heck I care about this team so much in the first place? And how nice it would be to STOP caring about football because I hate the fact that it can literally ruin an entire day for me. And that entire day consists of periodically playing back EVERY missed opportunity from the game in my mind, and with each missed opportunity identified, the frustration grows. Then by day #2: The periodic reminiscing finally begins to subside and the rationalization process begins and at some point I'll land on a stupid-ass reason to remain hopeful, but this process of BS'ing myself (maybe) is essential to moving on for me because without that hope, there is not much to get excited about when you watch. FINALLY, by DAY #3, I've officially moved on to the upcoming game... So, what about YOU? I've always wondered if other Bills fans were as tormented by losses as I am. And if so, how long it took to stop thinking about it. Interested to hear the processing/coping mechanisms others have. That's right, I admit it... I NEED HELP!! 😆 Oh, yeah. What's today, Wednesday, I'll let you know how many it takes. .... The Indy loss, I was through with that in the middle of the 4th quarter, but the ones we should have won with one play here or there (Tennessee, Jacksonville, this one), they take days. Edited December 8, 2021 by CSBill Quote
Conlan58 Posted December 8, 2021 Posted December 8, 2021 For me, I'm processing the loss the same day/night. The hard parts for me are when it starts feeling like "same old bills" and feeling like last season actually was a lucky fluke season where things just went their way. I trust Beane and McD, but it is hard to be overly confident as long as Daboll is calling plays. 3 Quote
Doc Brown Posted December 8, 2021 Posted December 8, 2021 The weird thing is you think you handle it better as you get older but you don't. I try and not let it ruin my next day but it's always in the back of my mind. I took the losses hard in the late 80's/90's and I take them just as hard now. The one silver lining about the drought is I didn't take losses as hard because I knew we'd never sniff a Super Bowl with EJ Lotzpatrick Bledwards on the field. 3 1 Quote
SydneyBillsFan Posted December 8, 2021 Posted December 8, 2021 This one was like an unexpected gut punch, followed closely by a kick in the Christmas decorations. I may recover in time to see Fournette and Brady skewer us on Sunday like an Afghan goat on a spit. 1 Quote
ProcessTruster Posted December 8, 2021 Posted December 8, 2021 As my screen name suggests, I'm less into any particular game and moreso into whether the organization is growing in competitiveness and quality. If that is happening, then even with the ups and downs of the season (due to intermittent injuries to key players, crazy weather leveling the playing field for a single game, for example) the winning record and playoffs will happen more often than not. So no, I don't get worked up over any one game, be it one-off blowouts of severely depleted Jets or Saints teams playing crappy backup QBs (who have good rosters but didn't have them for our game) or losing a game pretty much played in Antarctica. Bills are a strong team and will be winning approx 2/3 of their games over the next 3-4 years IMO. McBeane's process has worked and is working. I'm interested in long term competitiveness, the wins will happen. Playoffs are a crapshoot as any single elimination tournament is, so that is less predictable. Quote
Giuseppe Tognarelli Posted December 8, 2021 Posted December 8, 2021 (edited) It's certainly worse when I go to the trouble of attending a game in that weather, it's a huge game, it's against the Pats, and it was an agonizing torture chamber to sit through, watching opportunity after opportunity slip by. At one point, I just knew we would win 24-14, but somehow it didn't happen. Edited December 8, 2021 by Giuseppe Tognarelli 2 Quote
Billzfan37 Posted December 8, 2021 Posted December 8, 2021 Every year, there are a couple of high flying pre-season favorites that puke out. For example, the Browns are sitting right there with 6 losses and like the Bills, they were a preseason super bowl favorite for some. Last year, Tampa Bay went 7-5 through their first 12 games with an embarrassing blowout loss to the Saints that mirrored our Colts loss, and another bad showing against the Bears, and 3 straight November losses. The Bucs were 7-5 (like us) going into their December 13th game against the Vikings, and they never lost again that season. Like the Bills, they had a deep, talented roster and had to find their identity. So far, our identity has been to piss away opportunities...but if we wake up this weekend, it could start a hot streak that wins the whole thing. Quote
streetkings01 Posted December 8, 2021 Posted December 8, 2021 1 day…..I always have work the next day, my kids are involved in sports plus I coach my sons 12U travel flag football team. I have a pretty busy schedule plus I stay off social media, sports networks and message boards for a few days after a loss…..can’t let it consume you. Quote
Greg S Posted December 8, 2021 Posted December 8, 2021 Regular season losses a day or two at most. However wide right still hurts. Quote
JMF2006 Posted December 8, 2021 Posted December 8, 2021 I am already on to TB and TB12 BTW the outcome doesn't effect my mood. I might be more salty in the lead up to a big game Quote
Ridgewaycynic2013 Posted December 8, 2021 Posted December 8, 2021 I am considering a petition for 'The Petition Site'. I just have to decide if I am jettisoning coaching staff, players, or starting a class action lawsuit for failure to perform by the organization. * 🙄😁 Quote
Gunner Posted December 8, 2021 Posted December 8, 2021 3 hours ago, BobBelcher said: I almost made this question specific to Pats losses. With the well-known dominance of the Patriots over the past 20 some odd years, there have been SEVERAL seasons in which losing to the Pats rendered the Bills at a new low point. It is remarkable to me that every season (except 2020) we play this team and not only do they beat us, but they ALWAYS pour salt on the wound along with it in some way. There's ALWAYS some kind of negative impact towards the rest of our season that comes with it. This year for instance... Bills lose to Pats... suddenly our guys are walking out of press conferences... suddenly you have the usually tight-lipped McDermott throwing his players under the bus, throwing McKenzie under the bus, both publicly... suddenly you have fans saying McDermott has to go... there's starting to be perceived dysfunction within this group that not too long ago was described as a close knit family...... and it's all happening after the Patriots beat us. All of these things make it all the more difficult to digest and continues to fuel our hatred towards the Patriots. BUT... As I started to think about how long it takes me to process a Bills loss, I realized that it's pretty much the same with all of them, but with the Pats it is just amplified. So, I am asking about losses in general here. In other words, I'm asking how long does it take until you are OVER IT? When does the outcome of the game stop affecting your overall mood? For me, there are distinct stages in how I process a Bills loss to the Pats. The first 24 hours suck: I get depressed and it SUCKS. It affects my mood, my relationships, my energy/motivation, you name it. This is where I'll often wonder why the heck I care about this team so much in the first place? And how nice it would be to STOP caring about football because I hate the fact that it can literally ruin an entire day for me. And that entire day consists of periodically playing back EVERY missed opportunity from the game in my mind, and with each missed opportunity identified, the frustration grows. Then by day #2: The periodic reminiscing finally begins to subside and the rationalization process begins and at some point I'll land on a stupid-ass reason to remain hopeful, but this process of BS'ing myself (maybe) is essential to moving on for me because without that hope, there is not much to get excited about when you watch. FINALLY, by DAY #3, I've officially moved on to the upcoming game... So, what about YOU? I've always wondered if other Bills fans were as tormented by losses as I am. And if so, how long it took to stop thinking about it. Interested to hear the processing/coping mechanisms others have. That's right, I admit it... I NEED HELP!! 😆 Becoming a Gold Star dad trained me to accept it immediately, there's more to life than winning a game. But that doesn't stop me from being 100% focused (cheering, yelling, bitching at stupidity and refs) during the games. #GoBills. Quote
John Gianelli Posted December 8, 2021 Posted December 8, 2021 Couldn't have said it better myself. You speak for thousands of us. 1 Quote
ProcessTruster Posted December 8, 2021 Posted December 8, 2021 3 hours ago, CSBill said: Oh, yeah. What's today, Wednesday, I'll let you know how many it takes. .... The Indy loss, I was through with that in the middle of the 4th quarter, but the ones we should have one with one play here or there (Tennessee, Jacksonville, this one), they take days. but you ran in a second with the Pats and Rams home wins last year, which were beyond lucky and were nearly certain losses until wacko fate intervened . can't have it both ways 2 minutes ago, ProcessTruster said: but you ran in a second with the Pats and Rams home wins last year, which were beyond lucky and were nearly certain losses until wacko fate intervened . can't have it both ways Quote
Bills fan since 87 Posted December 8, 2021 Posted December 8, 2021 1 hour ago, HOUSE said: I am done processing after 3 beers Light-weight 🙂 Quote
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