Beane needs to spend serious resources on the OL

[Big Turk]

I don't care if the first 3 picks in the draft are OL. Spends in FA to get a premium OL player or two...whatever. We simply CANNOT afford to keep playing this way on offense. 

 

No run game...Allen running for his life most plays...this offense is too good to allow poor blocking to kill it the way it is.

 

Forget the defense for a minute. Yeah that's important and some more  quality CBs are important...but OLine has a far better return on investment for this team...would allow them to basically be unstoppable on offense...

 

Beane...you need to fix this once and for all this off-season. Not by signing below average players to contracts to keep things together. They aren't good enough. Bring in better talent.

[Back2Buff]

You trust Beane to use the resources to find the right players?

 

What players along either line has he hit on?

[whorlnut]

Just now, Big Turk said:

I don't care if the first 3 picks in the draft are OL. Spends in FA to get a premium OL player or two...whatever. We simply CANNOT afford to keep playing this way on offense. 

 

No run game...Allen running for his life most plays...this offense is too good to allow poor blocking to kill it the way it is.

 

Forget the defense for a minute. Yeah that's important and some more  quality CBs are important...but OLine has a far better return on investment for this team...would allow them to basically be unstoppable on offense...

 

Beane...you need to fix this once and for all this off-season. Not by signing below average players to contracts to keep things together. They aren't good enough. Bring in better talent.

I can’t disagree here with this theory. However, we also need some playmakers on offense. Just fixing the oline will not make our running backs faster or make Beasley or sanders any younger. This needs to be a mostly offensive heavy draft for us to get to the level where we need to be for the foreseeable future. We have too many guys on short deals. We need some longer rookie deals to right this ship. 

[RoyBatty is alive]

Our interior O Line is a joke, the one good player we have is Morse who is ancient, expensive and an injury risk.  I think Spencer Long will be a stud and give Dawkins a pass this year assuming his drop off is Covid related.

[Dr.Sack]

Wyatt Teller was jettisoned for a 6th rounder. In 4 years Beane has found one starting OL through the draft. 

[LabattBlue]

Beane has made a huge investment (picks and cap space) on the DL, and the results are mixed at best.
 

Not sure I have any confidence in him to fix the OL woes. 

[Coach Tuesday]

They’ve already spent “serious resources” on both lines and have little to show for it.  Throwing money at the problem won’t solve it.  

[Dr. Who]

5 minutes ago, Coach Tuesday said:

They’ve already spent “serious resources” on both lines and have little to show for it.  Throwing money at the problem won’t solve it.  

Yet they've got to do something. I surmise the draft is the main resource. Creed Humphrey is wearing a helmet with an arrowhead. That's a miss.

I really can't properly evaluate coaching, but maybe they should throw money at the best possible oline coach while they are at it.

[NewEra]

17 minutes ago, RoyBatty is alive said:

Our interior O Line is a joke, the one good player we have is Morse who is ancient, expensive and an injury risk.  I think Spencer Long will be a stud and give Dawkins a pass this year assuming his drop off is Covid related.

Not to mention provides zero push in the run game.  He’s useless unless he pulling 

[Steptide]

Our d line really isn't as bad as everyone says. As far as o line, I'm starting to wonder if it's coaching to an extent. We have young players on the o line who should be solid. I think one issue, and this falls on coaching, is the constant o line shuffling over the last few years. I don't think this helped in the long run. Having said that, the bills do need to upgrade it in next years draft or via free agency 

[oldmanfan]

Epenesa, Rousseau, and Basham are going to be really good players for us.  Oliver has really come on this year.   Now Beane needs to turn his attention to the interior line.  

[HereComesTheReignAgain]

23 minutes ago, Back2Buff said:

You trust Beane to use the resources to find the right players?

 

What players along either line has he hit on?

Spencer Brown, Rousseau, Oliver.

Edited December 7, 2021 by HereComesTheReignAgain

[The Frankish Reich]

22 minutes ago, Dr.Sack said:

Wyatt Teller was jettisoned for a 6th rounder. In 4 years Beane has found one starting OL through the draft. 

You somehow neglect to mention that the guy who beat him out wasn't chopped liver ... in fact, it was the immortal QUINTON SPAIN.

Quinton, please come back. I miss your mediocrity.

 

EDIT: yeah, yeah, I know, it's PFF and all that, but ... PFF currently has Spain (starting for the Bengals) as an above average guard. I never quite got why they gave up on him so fast. I mean, mediocrity is sometimes better than the alternative.

Edited December 7, 2021 by The Frankish Reich

[SCBills]

Would be completely fine if we come into next year with:

 

Dawkins - FA/Draft - FA/Draft - FA/Draft - Brown.  Feliciano and Williams can be depth.  

 

Don't care who we replace Moss/Singletary with, just get us new RB's.

 

Say our goodbyes to Hughes, Addison and Butler.  Live or die with our incessant high round picks on the DL and add another run stuffer & pass rusher or re-sign Obada is they like him.  

 

With the cap going up and guys we can move off of, including Sanders/Beasley potentially gone, that likely allows us to go sign a high end #2 WR to go with Diggs and Davis. 

 

Edited December 7, 2021 by SCBills

[Nester]

Free Agency should be part of this solution.

 

time to bring in the Scherff

[Buffalo_Stampede]

Let's not act like we didn't believe in the OL entering the season. Dawkins and Williams have been pretty bad. Williams is the big miss here. We could've spent that money to upgrade OG. He's not getting it done.

[gobills404]

Nobody on the Bills line has significantly improved or become the best version of themselves under Bobby Johnson. Meanwhile Quinton Spain and Teller escaped and have been 2 of the best guards in football this year. It won’t matter who we sign or draft if that bum still has a job here.

[NewEra]

15 minutes ago, oldmanfan said:

Epenesa, Rousseau, and Basham are going to be really good players for us.  Oliver has really come on this year.   Now Beane needs to turn his attention to the interior line.  

We sure hope they will be.  I believe Rousseau will. Epenesa and Basham, I still question whether they’ll be the impact players we hope they are as 2nd rd picks.  

[Pete]

no brainer.  3 new OL would be fantastic.  And a #1 RB(can block, run route, good hands, speed to take 90+ yards).  That is what ive been banging the table for, and I will continue

[NewEra]

1 minute ago, gobills404 said:

Nobody on the Bills line has significantly improved or become the best version of themselves under Bobby Johnson. Meanwhile Quinton Spain and Teller escaped and have been 2 of the best guards in football this year. It won’t matter who we sign or draft if that bum still has a job here.

Agreed. Johnson must go.  McD has really failed hiring OL coaches.  Castillo and Johnson.  FAIL