Tired of teams "stealing" wins from us

[BeastMaster]

And it especially irked me watching Belicheat and company smirking and cackling that they stole another one from us in our building.

 

We are the more talented team in every game. We lose because of one of three things.

 

1. Not enough wins on the line (O and D)

 

2. Mistakes and penalties (coaching)

 

3. One dimensional and red zone struggles

 

This team needs to address these major issues, because it's killing one of the more talented rosters and one of the best QB's in the game.

[Evian]

I was down on the Bills until last night. I think that loss was exactly what they needed. They have been too conservative and too soft. I think that loss will loosen up the offense and toughen up the defense. 

[NewEra]

They didn’t steal it.  We gave it to them 

[DeltaDigital]

4 minutes ago, Evian said:

I was down on the Bills until last night. I think that loss was exactly what they needed. They have been too conservative and too soft. I think that loss will loosen up the offense and toughen up the defense. 

just like the loss to the hapless jags? Just like the pounding they got from the colts? they're cooked. coaching has failed them. 10-7 if they're lucky, and #5-7 seed depending on what else happens in the AFCE... 

[78thealltimegreat]

10 minutes ago, BeastMaster said:

And it especially irked me watching Belicheat and company smirking and cackling that they stole another one from us in our building.

 

We are the more talented team in every game. We lose because of one of three things.

 

1. Not enough wins on the line (O and D)

 

2. Mistakes and penalties (coaching)

 

3. One dimensional and red zone struggles

 

This team needs to address these major issues, because it's killing one of the more talented rosters and one of the best QB's in the game.

We’ve now lost 4 games this year by a combined 17 points not having a running game especially inside the opponents 35 is just killing this team 

[Ethan in Cleveland]

Maybe we need to stop saying they have a more talented roster than the opponents they lose to. If that is really the case then it all comes down to coaching.  Im fien with getting rid of McDermott.  I've thought he was a fraud for a long time.. But that is too simplistic. The fact is outside of a few players the talent is just not there. Edmunds is trash and proved it on a national stage last night. The LB depth after Milano is terrible. The entire o-line is awful at run blocking.  There is not one linemen that can move a defender off the ball. Enough has been said about the lack of talent at RB spot. And despite what all the metrics say, this d-line can not generate a pass rush.

[Doc]

We'll just steal it back in a few weeks.

[Evian]

9 minutes ago, DeltaDigital said:

just like the loss to the hapless jags? Just like the pounding they got from the colts? they're cooked. coaching has failed them. 10-7 if they're lucky, and #5-7 seed depending on what else happens in the AFCE... 

 

The Jags loss did nothing. There were too many games left and there was no urgency. 

[marky]

Bills need to grow up fast. Stop crying at the refs. Playing for the division, and you have:

1. Brieda's fumble that takes him out of the game
2. Two false starts followed up by a sack on the next play
3. Spencer Brown hold on Beasley converting first down
4. Diggs dropping that 50 yard TD

Speaking of growing up, I don't mind opposition happy after they won. But all that punk stuff they do, laying on people after the play, talking trash, hits after the whistle. Really makes me hate rich people, who are bailed out by the taxpayers by the way. I hate Boston. I hate New York City. I always will. No wonder people try to blow them up. Next time something big happens, make them think we got their backs, and then just leave them. They are ugly people and weak cowards deep down. That guy who wanted to help the police in that shootout with the Boston Marathon bombers, and threw them a hammer and then locked his door, that's who we fight for today. They are ugly, they bring it upon themselves, they talk big but run away and they deserve zero help.

[BeastMaster]

15 minutes ago, NewEra said:

They didn’t steal it.  We gave it to them 

If you wanna say that, fine.

 

Either way...it's unacceptable and there needs to be changes made.

[dorquemada]

We're not the more talented team.  Let's go on and admit that.  Outside of Allen & Diggs, I'm not sure there's another player on the Bills roster I'd take over their counterpart in NE.  Of course, most of our players would be the best version of themselves on NE so there's always that i guess

[P Riv]

So we're overlooking that N'Keal Harry gaff on the punt return that gifted us our only TD?  Their defense SHUT US DOWN.  How the F do you overlook the blatantly obvious???  We scored a FG.  

Our QB1 and WR1 are way more talented than theirs, but they are more talented at every other position group, especially in the trenches, and it showed.

[NewEra]

Just now, BeastMaster said:

If you wanna say that, fine.

 

Either way...it's unacceptable and there needs to be changes made.

the pats were horrible last night.

 

the game in a nutshell:  one long td run and a 2 LT conversion——- One kicker goes 2-2 in FGs-  the other kicker goes 1-2.   Bills had several dropped passes.  The pats had a very questionable 4th down conversion given to them by an idiot ref. 

[BarleyNY]

This team is wasting a lot of talent.  But it’s a flawed team and other team’s are taking advantage of those flaws.  Also we built a team that is very passing centric and a defense that is very pass rush (and coverage) centric.  We did this at the expense of any real focus on the rushing game and run defense.  And we did it hoping to play outdoors in Buffalo in January. 

[BeastMaster]

1 minute ago, NewEra said:

the pats were horrible last night.

 

the game in a nutshell:  one long td run and a 2 LT conversion——- One kicker goes 2-2 in FGs-  the other kicker goes 1-2.   Bills had several dropped passes.  The pats had a very questionable 4th down conversion given to them by an idiot ref. 

They were horrible. They were ZERO threat to do anything but run the ball, and they pummeled us with it. I guess that makes us even worse.

 

They couldn't stop our passing game in the windiest conditions...yet we failed 11 out of 12 tries in the red zone. 

 

We had chances, but poor coaching decisions left us screwed at the end of the game with only one timeout.

 

It's quite something when you watch a team that had no business winning actually win.

 

Where do you place the blame?

[LongTermBuffalonian]

To be honest - I'm not quite as "down" on this team as some of the others in the this thread. Then again - I wasn't quite as "up" on the Bills all along. 

I'm sort of Zen about it...

 

This team - as it is now though - isn't winning any Superbowls. 

 

We have a number of decent pieces - but this isn't Madden. You can't fill your team with superstar  x-factors. We have a few, but the rest need to be coached/schemed up - and we aren't doing that offensively.

 

I will agree we need a bulldozer Running back, and some big smart bodies on both the O and D lines.  Oh - and a new O-line coach, because YEESH, they aren't good.

[colin]

we have plenty of talent issues, we are not balanced, that's for certain, but no one is perfect.  the pats had a freaking rookie qb who they didn't even ask to throw the ball.  we have the highest paid d and dline in the nfl, and the qb with the most guaranteed money in the history of the game.

 

1/4 in the redzone, 3 filthy points, is disgusting.  that's on coaching, that's on not being prepared.  yeah, our OL is not good, our RBs are cheeks, and our WRs are too small, but we have josh freaking allen on the field, and no one else does, and we simply couldn't figure out a way to set him up ONE BLOODY TIME for a TD is entirely on coaching.  everything we run on O is either known by the d ahead of time, or it is simply asking allen to be super man and just will us some points.  our front office is our biggest problem right now, and our coaching on offense is not good.

[dorquemada]

1 minute ago, LongTermBuffalonian said:

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I will agree we need a bulldozer Running back, and some big smart bodies on both the O and D lines.  Oh - and a new O-line coach, because YEESH, they aren't good.

 

The OL is hot garbage.  Dorkins isn't playing up to his contract, Morse looks like an old woman getting shoved around on a subway platform, and our TEs are a joke.  Putting our hopes on a 3rd round rookie had predictable results.  It's not just the OL either.  For the most expensive DL in the league they're bereft of results.  I look forward to hearing how statistically dominant they are, proving the maxim of 'lies, damn lies, and statistics'

[NewEra]

4 minutes ago, BeastMaster said:

They were horrible. They were ZERO threat to do anything but run the ball, and they pummeled us with it. I guess that makes us even worse.

 

They couldn't stop our passing game in the windiest conditions...yet we failed 11 out of 12 tries in the red zone. 

 

We had chances, but poor coaching decisions left us screwed at the end of the game with only one timeout.

 

It's quite something when you watch a team that had no business winning actually win.

 

Where do you place the blame?

I don’t think they pummeled us with it. They had 11 1st downs.  They had 11 more yards that us.  We had 11 more plays on O than them.  They were 2/13 on 3rd down conversions.  Their 1 4th down conversion was a gift from the ref.  

[NY Nole]

Why can't the Bills Run the damn ball? Our line is not on par with Indy or TB or Ten -- but c'mon -- they are still NFL-caliber players. Other teams/schemes do more with less. Why the hell has our team not figured out how to run the ball in over 2 years?