Bills @ Bucs talk

[HamSandwhich]

Where are all the links to stories, or twitter, etc?  Is Yolo ok? 

[finn]

12 hours ago, Scott7975 said:

McDermott needs to stop trying to make this team something it is not.  This team is all finesse players.  It is a team built to pass the ball and stop the pass.  No amount of forcing some archaic crap is going to change what these players are.  Just play to the damn strengths of the team.  Stop messing around with benching only certain players because they made a mistake.  Put the best players on the damn field and play some damn football.  The time for doing the crap they are trying to do is the off season and camp.  Not the middle of the season in a tight playoff race.  Get back to who you are, not who you want to be.

I agree, if you mean that McDermott wants a power-running, ball-control offense and a run-stuffing defense. A Belichick team, in other words. Instead, he has a thoroughbred for a QB, a mongrel mix of power- and finesse blockers up front, two backup-quality running backs, and a bend-don't break defense. So he has a choice: Play to the strengths of his team, or force a square peg into a round hole? Sounds like he's planning on the latter, no matter what the consequences. I give him high marks for building a winning culture here, but he lacks imagination and flexibility of mind. We saw that in the championship game last year when he elected to kick field goals against a high-scoring offense that was dominating his team. And he might have been behind the decision to take Monday's game out of the hands of his MVP quarterback and put it into the hands of Breida, Moss and Singletary.

 

I'm not calling for him to be replaced, but he doesn't have the team he wants, and this team doesn't have the head coach it needs. 

[SoCal Deek]

Is it going to be windy? You know we can’t play in the wind! 

[Greg S]

11 minutes ago, finn said:

I agree, if you mean that McDermott wants a power-running, ball-control offense and a run-stuffing defense. A Belichick team, in other words. Instead, he has a thoroughbred for a QB, a mongrel mix of power- and finesse blockers up front, two backup-quality running backs, and a bend-don't break defense. So he has a choice: Play to the strengths of his team, or force a square peg into a round hole? Sounds like he's planning on the latter, no matter what the consequences. I give him high marks for building a winning culture here, but he lacks imagination and flexibility of mind. We saw that in the championship game last year when he elected to kick field goals against a high-scoring offense that was dominating his team. And he might have been behind the decision to take Monday's game out of the hands of his MVP quarterback and put it into the hands of Breida, Moss and Singletary.

 

I'm not calling for him to be replaced, but he doesn't have the team he wants, and this team doesn't have the head coach it needs. 

 

I would like the team to be more balanced. With a strong OL and a strong running game that would make Allen much more dangerous in the passing game. Kelly said many times when Thurman was having a good game it made his job so much easier throwing the ball. Imagine what Josh could do if opposing defenses had to respect our ability to run the ball.

[Solomon Grundy]

30 minutes ago, ScottLaw said:

As long as it isn’t Sweeney…. Why he’s still on the team I have no ide.

IMO, it takes Beane/McDermott a while to admit a mistake. Nathan Peterman/Vernon Butler keeps coming to mind.

2 hours ago, NewEra said:

Agreed. We should keep an extra blocker in there on more than just a couple occasions 

I’m more afraid of a Josh Allen injury from TB pass rush

[SoCal Deek]

1 hour ago, ScottLaw said:

Strongest armed and most athletic QB in the league…..McD says we need more Moss and Singletary.

They can’t change the team this late in the season. Time to go all-in with passing game! Think I’m crazy? The Patriots just won doing the exact opposite on Monday night. 

[KCNC]

I think Josh will throw 40-50 times Sunday.  Ain't no way we are running the ball on that team.

[Logic]

I hope Daboll says "***** it, if we're going down, we're going down swinging" and empties the bag of tricks. I want motions, jet sweeps, designed QB runs, trick plays, screens, you name it. 

We're NOT going to be able to run the ball against this team, so sling that sumbitch around the yard and play like it's the last game of your life.

If we're gonna lose, can we at least make it fun? Can we at least make it look good? Like, I didn't mind the Tennessee loss so much. It was entertaining as hell and we went down like fighters. The Colts and Pats losses, well...not so much. 

MAKE BILLS FOOTBALL FUN AGAIN

[dave mcbride]

Does anyone have any sense of the injury situation for Tampa's secondary? I know Edwards is down for faking his covid vaccination. 

[DJB]

I'm shocked the line is only favored by 3 for the Bucs. 

 

We are going to get killed

[Logic]

Just now, dave mcbride said:

Does anyone have any sense of the injury situation for Tampa's secondary? I know Edwards is down for faking his covid vaccination. 

As far as I know, Carlton Davis will be good to go, Richard Sherman has been activated from IR and will likely play, and Jamel Dean is questionable. Should know more when today's practice report comes out.

[NewEra]

2 minutes ago, Logic said:

As far as I know, Carlton Davis will be good to go, Richard Sherman has been activated from IR and will likely play, and Jamel Dean is questionable. Should know more when today's practice report comes out.

And whitehead is now out.  Their CB room is finally healthy…..perfect timing 😔 

[BuffaloBillyG]

1 minute ago, NewEra said:

And whitehead is now out.  Their CB room is finally healthy…..perfect timing 😔 

Sherman had been an absolute liability out there before getting hurt. Kinda happy he's back. Allen had no trouble with him last time they faced off. 

[dave mcbride]

7 minutes ago, Logic said:

As far as I know, Carlton Davis will be good to go, Richard Sherman has been activated from IR and will likely play, and Jamel Dean is questionable. Should know more when today's practice report comes out.

Just looked myself. Jamel Dean didn't practice (concussion; he suffered it on Sunday so maybe he won't play), Whitehead (who missed last week with a calf) didn't either, and Edwards - who doesn't start much but plays a lot - is out. If all three are out, they should in theory be weak back there. But the Colts were supposed to be weak too because of injuries in the secondary. Didn't work out that way.

 

https://bucswire.usatoday.com/lists/nfl-news-tampa-bay-buccaneers-injury-report-week-14-buffalo-bills/

 

7 minutes ago, NewEra said:

And whitehead is now out.  Their CB room is finally healthy…..perfect timing 😔 

Dean had a concussion vs Atlanta and he may not be ready. 

[finn]

Help me out here. What's up with the pessimism? We finally have everyone back on the offensive line, and pretty much everyone is healthy. White being out is big, but he isn't the only reason the defense has been one of the best in the league. Yet people are full of doom and gloom. Why? The Pats game was a complete anomaly because of the weather; against the Colts, we were down Star, Edwards, Mongo and Brown. We lost to the Jags, but the Bucs lost to Washington; stuff happens. The Bills are pissed and hungry. 

 

I'm totally looking forward to this game. It's going to be a real shootout that will show a changing of the guard from Brady to Allen. 

[Logic]

6 minutes ago, dave mcbride said:

Just looked myself. Jamel Dean didn't practice (concussion; he suffered it on Sunday so maybe he won't play), Whitehead (who missed last week with a calf) didn't either, and Edwards - who doesn't start much but plays a lot - is out. If all three are out, they should in theory be weak back there. But the Colts were supposed to be weak too because of injuries in the secondary. Didn't work out that way.

 

https://bucswire.usatoday.com/lists/nfl-news-tampa-bay-buccaneers-injury-report-week-14-buffalo-bills/

 

Dean had a concussion vs Atlanta and he may not be ready. 

In my opinion, the healthy guys -- Sean Murphy-Bunting, Carlton Davis, Richard Sherman, and Antoine Winfield Jr -- are enough to make the secondary rather imposing. Combine it with their absolutely filthy front seven and it COULD be a long day for the Bills offense.

That said, I have a weird feeling the Bills offense plays well this Sunday. I have no rational explanation for feeling that way. Just a hunch.

[dave mcbride]

2 minutes ago, Logic said:

In my opinion, the healthy guys -- Sean Murphy-Bunting, Carlton Davis, Richard Sherman, and Antoine Winfield Jr -- are enough to make the secondary rather imposing. Combine it with their absolutely filthy front seven and it COULD be a long day for the Bills offense.

That said, I have a weird feeling the Bills offense plays well this Sunday. I have no rational explanation for feeling that way. Just a hunch.

I have no idea. On paper, that defense is a terrible matchup for us because they can get pressure inside and with four. Suh is having a great season. 

[Scott7975]

3 hours ago, Greg S said:

 

Here is a preview of what Allen's Sunday is going to look like

 

 

 

 

I think you mean

 

3 hours ago, ScottLaw said:

100% agree with your saying…. Don’t count on McD adapting to this philosophy… he’s stubborn and will consistently force the issue of forcing the ineffective running game.

 

Unfortunately I don't.  You can tell by his comments this week.

[NewEra]

33 minutes ago, No Place To Hyde said:

Sherman had been an absolute liability out there before getting hurt. Kinda happy he's back. Allen had no trouble with him last time they faced off. 

I agree but we wary.  He’s smart and may have learned his lesson. 

Edited December 9, 2021 by NewEra

[Fan in Chicago]

25 minutes ago, finn said:

Help me out here. What's up with the pessimism? We finally have everyone back on the offensive line, and pretty much everyone is healthy. White being out is big, but he isn't the only reason the defense has been one of the best in the league. Yet people are full of doom and gloom. Why? The Pats game was a complete anomaly because of the weather; against the Colts, we were down Star, Edwards, Mongo and Brown. We lost to the Jags, but the Bucs lost to Washington; stuff happens. The Bills are pissed and hungry. 

 

I'm totally looking forward to this game. It's going to be a real shootout that will show a changing of the guard from Brady to Allen. 

I like your optimism but the Pats** game set me back with my expectations to 2018 levels. After each of the games against Colts, Jags and Pats** game, we came up with different excuses. Losers make excuses, winners just win. We are looking more like the former than the latter 

Edited December 9, 2021 by Fan in Chicago