OK, armchair analysts: How do we fix this offense?

[D. L. Hot-Flamethrower]

33 minutes ago, Just in Atlanta said:

Bench Knox and replace with him with ____? No thanks. The one drop wasn't his fault btw. Just a good defensive play. 

One drop? how about multiple and make a ***** play when needed? How about not committing penalties at crucial times?

 

And, if you think its all on the offense, talk to Hyde and Poyer they agree. Our defense was plenty good enough last night giving up 4.8 yards/ carry with 10-11 men inside 5 yards? Giving up the biggest play of the game a 75 yard TD run?

 

I'd say this team needs people focusing on doing their job and not pointing fingers.

[BuffaloRebound]

Should’ve over-paid Gronk.  Josh needs a chain mover and big red zone threat.  Would’ve helped running game too.  

[Billsatlastin2018]

The best player on the team, is clearly the dude under center at the start of EVERY Offensive play. It falls from there.

 

* The worst Offensive players are EVERY RB, followed closely by a mediocre O Line!

 

* The TE is an enigma. We all know he’s no where near star talent, but if he could only make it to a relied upon Top 10 in the league. Sadly, when he is needed most- like last night, he fails! Multiple times.

 

* The best are the WRs, not All Pros, but decent.

 

* Doughball the schemer, seems to design his play calling with the Lowest Common Multiple in mind. Last night was a prime example of his embarrassing lack of strategy depth. It took him until Q4, to unleash his PASSING star QB- forced to when behind. Otherwise, I’m certain he would have stuck to that idiotic straight forward running strategy with the worst RB puzzle pieces.

 

And where were the design draws, end arounds,etc. for Allen? NOWHERE! On a weather challenged night!! Insert head banging symbol here.

 

And where is the Red Zone strategy? When the game was on the line, where were the End Zone plays? This is a consistent failure in this year’s losses. 
 

This then, causes McD to make poor choices, 

like kicking FGs, when TDs are required, especially in typhoon wind conditions! THAT was as stupid as his 4th Down challenge! 
 

EVERYBODY needs to smarten up or, unlike the Patsies, it’s on to 2023!
If they haven’t FUBARed it already.

[BuffaloRebound]

Tight End, Interior Linemen and a big physical RB.  These are not high dollar ticket items or positions you need to trade up in the draft for.  Spend $10m on a Tight End or interior OL in free agency.  Draft the others.  This is easily fixable in 1 off-season but requires a change in the offensive philosophy.  We have the QB.  And a legit #1 WR.  

[PromoTheRobot]

Fix it this year to get to the playoffs? Go back to being a passing team. Get more creative passing. Stop pretending to be a power run team.

Edited December 7, 2021 by PromoTheRobot

[Toyo321]

10 hours ago, Billznut said:

McD runs this organization. Not Beane. Do people in 2021 not actually realize this? Do you actually think Beane has the power to fire McD?  Anyone who thinks that is insane. McD runs this franchise until Terry decides he doesn’t. 

If you seriously think he running this organization after last nights embarrassment on MNF, at home on national tv,   OMG....  Wait until this team gets spanked by TB this coming week.  You will see who is truly at the helm with this team after this next weeks game. 

[Greg S]

10 hours ago, Billznut said:

McD runs this organization. Not Beane. Do people in 2021 not actually realize this? Do you actually think Beane has the power to fire McD?  Anyone who thinks that is insane. McD runs this franchise until Terry decides he doesn’t. 

 

From a few years ago I remember Terry saying both report to him. He said McDermott has final say on coaching the team but Beane has final say with putting the team together with the draft/FA. Obviously they have discussions and voice their opinions but I remember Terry saying this is how the organizational structure of the team will be.

Edited December 7, 2021 by Greg S

[goldenboy81]

If the bills were so worried about the wind,why didn't they run no huddle in the 2 quarters they had it

[Matt_In_NH]

1 hour ago, PromoTheRobot said:

Fix it this year to get to the playoffs? Go back to being a passing team. Get more creative passing. Stop pretending to be a power run team.

Howard and Jeremy were all over this in the AM show.  My counter point is look at the Pitt and Jacksonville game where they were pass first and unsuccessful because the defense found a way to defend the only pass offense.   My opinion is you need to be capable of both to be a great offense or you will be limited.  Then again, the current personnel don't seem capable of running consistently.  I do think you need something there.

[Nitro]

1 hour ago, PromoTheRobot said:

Fix it this year to get to the playoffs? Go back to being a passing team. Get more creative passing. Stop pretending to be a power run team.

With the wind to their backs in the first drive they start running the ball.  Then running between the tackles during the games.  NE has a really good run defense and Dabol's game plan was inadequate.  Not many pass routes over the middle.   Like a TE or RB doing a drag route.  Short and effective  Dabil has most routes between the hash marks and sidelines.    Great weather in Tampa Bay so air it out!

[Straight Hucklebuck]

10 hours ago, 78thealltimegreat said:

The league is going in reverse with more run heavy offenses going back in vogue…I have no problem with them being pass first but quite frankly we need a bigger back a mauling guard and more TE depth..as for now you might as well run Josh like crazy inside the 10 since Miss and Singletary just get no push 

I think a game breaking WR is near the top of our need list. 

[78thealltimegreat]

Just now, Straight Hucklebuck said:

I think a game breaking WR is near the top of our need list. 

Something I have heard and luckily this is another really good deep WR draft 

[Straight Hucklebuck]

1 minute ago, 78thealltimegreat said:

Something I have heard and luckily this is another really good deep WR draft 

Especially if this Coaching staff stays reverent to always having Sanders (or another veteran FA WR) and Beasley on the field as the #2, #3 WR. 

 

We need better WRs for Josh Allen. 

[4BillsintheBurgh]

2 hours ago, pocoboy said:

As far as fixing the offense - at this point Breida is the only guy who is finding the holes this pedestrian line is opening (when he hangs onto the ball). I think you need to give serious thought to trialing other backs (either off PS, another team's PS, or FA) at this point. Breida's ability to find those holes indicates it's not impossible, but you're forcing yourself to rely on two guys who are NOT getting the job done consistently.

 

Very much so. Maybe in the 2022 Draft they can go out and get 2-3 more defensive linemen to help with this problem...

You realize they drafted 3 OL last year, right?

[Virgil]

I'll take a shot.

 

1 - McD and Daboll have a talk about a new run scheme.  Not adjustments, an overall new scheme.  I think something similar to when McCoy was here makes the most sense, to where we RPO out of the shotgun and give the back multiple lanes to choose from.  If Daboll can't do this, then we send him on his way.

 

2 - Offensive Line:  Dawkins stays as he's a 10 mil cap hit.  Mitch Morse released saves 8 mil against the cap.  Feliciano released saves 4 mil.   Cody Ford release saves 1.5 mil.  That leaves Dawkins at LT, Daryl Williams at RG, Spencer Brown at RT.  That 13 mil goes towards a RG or Center.  FA one and draft the other.  Boet stays for depth.  Draft and sign more depth.

 

3 - Running back - None of our guys get paid, so there isn't a large benefit to releasing any of them.  Maybe trade Moss for a bag of rocks?  I'd be good signing a Melvin Gordon in FA.  This draft doesn't seem to have a homerun guy, so there's a lot of mixed opinions out there.

 

4 - Receivers - Let Sanders walk in FA and stick to the core 3 of Diggs and Davis on the outside with Beasley in the slot. Stop with the rotations.

 

[Captain Caveman]

We need to stop trying to force the run.  I'm not saying don't mix in runs to keep Defenses honest, and I understand that last night the circumstances called for more running than normal, but we are built to pass the ball, and IMO we won't be winning anything that matters until we embrace it. 

 

It's not really complicated, and I hope McDermott gets it now

 

 

[pocoboy]

3 hours ago, 4BillsintheBurgh said:

You realize they drafted 3 OL last year, right?

 

Any idea when they used top draft capital on one? Or do you just want to argue that a 3rd/5th/7th are a veritable OL haul?

[somnus00]

15 hours ago, Straight Hucklebuck said:

I think we’re too reverent to Beasley and Sanders.

 

I think those two have faded down the stretch here, and need Davis and McKenzie rotating in half the time and taking snaps away from them.

 

We have no presnap motion, no jet sweeps, no misdirection, no two backs in the backfield, we don’t roll the pocket.

 

We don’t seem to have a good hot read for blitzes. There is never a dump off available. 

 

We can’t call a slant to save our lives even with Diggs. 
 

We don’t run the ball straight forward, instead it’s always some delayed handoff or gimmick formation.

 

We have no NFL caliber Tight End outside of Knox. 
 

Allen presses a lot and he took a horrible sack in the red zone that cost the Bills. He had time tonight.

 

We don’t control the tempo at all, speed up or slow down. How are we getting plays off with 0-1 seconds left on the play clock?

 

Why is Zack Moss STILL GETTING red zone work? Why the hell is he still on this team? 

 

 

 

Absolutely nailed it, in my opinion.

[Straight Hucklebuck]

3 hours ago, Virgil said:

I'll take a shot.

 

1 - McD and Daboll have a talk about a new run scheme.  Not adjustments, an overall new scheme.  I think something similar to when McCoy was here makes the most sense, to where we RPO out of the shotgun and give the back multiple lanes to choose from.  If Daboll can't do this, then we send him on his way.

 

2 - Offensive Line:  Dawkins stays as he's a 10 mil cap hit.  Mitch Morse released saves 8 mil against the cap.  Feliciano released saves 4 mil.   Cody Ford release saves 1.5 mil.  That leaves Dawkins at LT, Daryl Williams at RG, Spencer Brown at RT.  That 13 mil goes towards a RG or Center.  FA one and draft the other.  Boet stays for depth.  Draft and sign more depth.

 

3 - Running back - None of our guys get paid, so there isn't a large benefit to releasing any of them.  Maybe trade Moss for a bag of rocks?  I'd be good signing a Melvin Gordon in FA.  This draft doesn't seem to have a homerun guy, so there's a lot of mixed opinions out there.

 

4 - Receivers - Let Sanders walk in FA and stick to the core 3 of Diggs and Davis on the outside with Beasley in the slot. Stop with the rotations.

 

I think the exact opposite. 

 

Push to try and get another game breaker. 

 

I don't want to see Beasley again late in the season fading. 

 

This team would be so much better with a Deebo Samuel type playmaker on the team. Maybe the Steelers would part with Chase Claypool. I agree that Davis being on the field more is good, but no way do I think it's smart to just copy and paste this group next year. 

 

I'd spend 2022 #1 on a WR. 

[ngbills]

Red zone is killing this team. The inability to adjust. The inability to get Diggs the ball. He is invisible in 90% of games now.