MAJBobby Posted December 13, 2021 Posted December 13, 2021 (edited) 2 hours ago, BillMafia716ix said: Fans are turning on McDermott now? Lmao Boy how soon do they forget What have you done for me lately? He has regressed what has he done to get no criticism? We have a Marvin Lewis it looks like which will waste Allen’s Career. Edited December 13, 2021 by MAJBobby 1 Quote
Greg S Posted December 13, 2021 Posted December 13, 2021 Fans can want McDermott fired all they want. Bottom line is 3 playoff appearances in 4 seasons, a division title, and a trip to the AFCCG. Both he and Beane will get at least one more year to fix this. No way they get fired. Not gonna happen based on the success of the team the last 4 years. Quote
racketmaster Posted December 13, 2021 Posted December 13, 2021 (edited) McDermott started to look like he was the real deal last year and early this season. Once the team started getting punched in the face he has gone back to his cowardly ways of punting, playing for field goals and relying on his overrated defense. It is mind boggling how much this man continues to trust his defense over the years when they frequently let us down in crunch time. That overtime was a debacle like the whole first half. When we were lucky enough to win the coin toss, McDermott should have been telling Daboll that he has 4 downs and anything close we are going for it. 3rd and 4 should have been another Allen run or a run pass option. Instead an outside the numbers pass is called. Had you allowed Allen to run, we would have likely picked up the first and kept the chains moving or been in a 4th and 1 or short 2 situation to go for it. And you have to go for it because you are playing Brady and all they would need is a field goal to win it if you punt. McDermott has been coaching weak and his team has been playing like its coach. Edited December 13, 2021 by racketmaster 1 Quote
All_Pro_Bills Posted December 13, 2021 Posted December 13, 2021 (edited) McDermott is likely here to stay for a couple more years. Last off season I was concerned we'd lose one or both of our coordinators to head coaching opportunities. This year I'd welcome that change. And this roster still has some holes in places we all know about already and the defense is simply over-rated. Edited December 13, 2021 by All_Pro_Bills Quote
Billsfan1972 Posted December 13, 2021 Posted December 13, 2021 3 hours ago, BillMafia716ix said: Fans are turning on McDermott now? Lmao Boy how soon do they forget No I turned on him when he named Peterman the starter.....😜 He's a good coach, does many things well, but he makes plenty of mistakes too. Quote
racketmaster Posted December 13, 2021 Posted December 13, 2021 Not so sure why Bills fans should be concerned, we should be so proud of our team for the way we fought back and were able to take the game to overtime. The standard is no longer championship caliber but rather moral victory caliber. Good job McDermott for lowering expectations. 1 Quote
ndirish1978 Posted December 13, 2021 Posted December 13, 2021 McDermott does not call the offense. I hold Beane responsible for acquiring very poor talent along both lines and I think McDermott can be judged if he doesn't make changes at the coaching level by firing Bobby Johnson and Daboll. 2 games this year where the D did their jobs and the Offense couldn't muster anything to win a low scoring game. We cannot be regressing and wasting another year of J17's talent. McDermott took this team for almost 20 years of hell and got us to multiple playoff appearances, you can't get rid of him. Quote
Iverwig Posted December 13, 2021 Posted December 13, 2021 22 minutes ago, ndirish1978 said: McDermott does not call the offense. I hold Beane responsible for acquiring very poor talent along both lines and I think McDermott can be judged if he doesn't make changes at the coaching level by firing Bobby Johnson and Daboll. 2 games this year where the D did their jobs and the Offense couldn't muster anything to win a low scoring game. We cannot be regressing and wasting another year of J17's talent. McDermott took this team for almost 20 years of hell and got us to multiple playoff appearances, you can't get rid of him. Bean is with the Bills because of McD so I am pretty sure they work together on who what team adjustments are made in regards to personnel. Yes, Beane is the GM but there is a reason he was McDermott’s choice. Quote
Greg S Posted December 13, 2021 Posted December 13, 2021 10 minutes ago, Iverwig said: Bean is with the Bills because of McD so I am pretty sure they work together on who what team adjustments are made in regards to personnel. Yes, Beane is the GM but there is a reason he was McDermott’s choice. Same thing when Gase was the HC of the Jets and he wanted JD as the GM. How did that work out for Gase. I remember Pegula giving an interview and he said both will report to him but McDermott has final say on all coaching decisions and Beane has the final say on constructing the roster with draft/FA. Quote
Bleeding Bills Blue Posted December 13, 2021 Posted December 13, 2021 1 hour ago, MAJBobby said: What have you done for me lately? He has regressed what has he done to get no criticism? We have a Marvin Lewis it looks like which will waste Allen’s Career. I don't disagree. He needs to rein in Daboll at times with the pass happy attack, and figure out how to execute in the red zone. I'm also not going to dump a guy who's helped build a competitive team. Run the ball in the red zone - figure out how to do it. Quote
HomeskillitMoorman Posted December 14, 2021 Posted December 14, 2021 On 12/13/2021 at 10:18 AM, ndirish1978 said: McDermott does not call the offense. I hold Beane responsible for acquiring very poor talent along both lines and I think McDermott can be judged if he doesn't make changes at the coaching level by firing Bobby Johnson and Daboll. 2 games this year where the D did their jobs and the Offense couldn't muster anything to win a low scoring game. We cannot be regressing and wasting another year of J17's talent. McDermott took this team for almost 20 years of hell and got us to multiple playoff appearances, you can't get rid of him. McDermott is the HEAD coach. He’s ultimately responsible for all facets of the team. Not only did he choose by his own volition the coaches you believe are the problem, but he has the authority to change anything he wants. The issues of the offense, no matter what avenue you want to take to get there, is his responsibility. 1 Quote
P Riv Posted December 14, 2021 Posted December 14, 2021 The Eagles fired Andy Reid.... People do stupid things every day. 2 1 Quote
DrDawkinstein Posted December 14, 2021 Posted December 14, 2021 On 12/7/2021 at 12:09 AM, Wizard said: There was absolutely no reason that the Bills should have lost this game! For this reason, the Pegula’s need to clean out some of the coaching leadership. The odds of screwing up so many times in a row in a game is probably a million to one. That comes down to poor coaching and players not executing. When players screw up and coaches can not adjust, then this means that McDermott’s coaching ceiling has already been reached. He and his staff are average despite the team’s history Great Coach gets 10-14 points in the situation below. Good coach gets 6 to 7 points. Replaceable coach gets 0-3 points. 2x’s in the last 6 minutes the Patriots gift wrapped two very doable red zone touchdown opportunities. And, Allen gets sacked, an idiot TE false start, a missed field goal, and passing the ball when running could have led to more manageable play calling rather than 3rd and long and 4th and 14 situations. No adjustments…means no Confidence! The team lost at home with the best fans, better receivers, and quarterback, unbelievable opportunities to win, and the defense knowing in advance that 95% of the team’s plays would be runs. Mac Jones may have set a record in the last 40 years with 19 pass yards! In other words, our defensive line knew what was coming and the Hoodie decided to be completely one dimensional knowing the Bills could do nothing about it!!! Winning Culture Yes, there was wind and stats were not going to be as big tonight. The Bills had every reason to win and own the division. It was blanking Monday Night Football. The team had this game circled all season. No amount of clapping, rah rah, or “process” makes up for fumbling the game away. Bad coaching, players aren’t executing, and we can’t build our offense or defense with underwhelming line play, time management issues, and not getting the ball from a 30 million dollar QB not getting the ball to Diggs or a line not capable of digging in and getting 10 yards on the ground with some old-fashion tough running. Ceiling has been reached..new voices A weaker AFC, Derrick Henry going down, the Chiefs inconsistencies and Ravens, and the inability to beat playoff caliber teams, execute at key times, and the lack of consistency on the lines means this is McDermott’s ceiling. Time for Bills to make big changes! I gave this post a "Thank you" beer stein emoji. Not because I agree. But because it completes the cycle, and it now has at least one of EVERY available emoji. Congrats, you really got folks feeling all types of ways on this one! 1 1 Quote
John from Riverside Posted December 14, 2021 Posted December 14, 2021 On 12/13/2021 at 3:11 AM, mannc said: Every season McDermott remains the head coach is a year of Josh’s career wasted. He’s regressed…badly. These are just moronic statements.....we should get rid of a playoff coach in hopes that we find better we we can OBVIOUSLY get worse 1 1 Quote
Mat68 Posted December 14, 2021 Posted December 14, 2021 This thread should end…. To many pages and 0 potential upgrades. With a crap roster broke the streak. Been in the playoffs 3 out of 4 going on 4 out of 5. 1 1 Quote
Generic_Bills_Fan Posted December 14, 2021 Posted December 14, 2021 1 minute ago, Mat68 said: This thread should end…. To many pages and 0 potential upgrades. With a crap roster broke the streak. Been in the playoffs 3 out of 4 going on 4 out of 5. Yea it’s too early for this…fire him now and then what? You promote one of the two coordinators that nobody likes? Lol if we miss the playoffs I’m all for starting to talk about this Quote
oldmanfan Posted December 14, 2021 Posted December 14, 2021 He is not getting fired and should not get fired. These kinds of irrational outbursts are so overdone it's pathetic 3 Quote
mannc Posted December 15, 2021 Posted December 15, 2021 (edited) 21 hours ago, John from Riverside said: These are just moronic statements.....we should get rid of a playoff coach in hopes that we find better we we can OBVIOUSLY get worse You’re setting the bar too low. McDermott is not good enough. He continues to cost this team games. This isn’t the 2010 Bills…we have a new owner and a superstar QB…we don’t have to settle for a mediocre defensive coordinator as our head coach any longer. The best and brightest in the game would love the opportunity to coach a team with 24-year old Josh Allen. Edited December 15, 2021 by mannc 1 1 Quote
Tenhigh Posted December 15, 2021 Posted December 15, 2021 (edited) 21 hours ago, John from Riverside said: These are just moronic statements.....we should get rid of a playoff coach in hopes that we find better we we can OBVIOUSLY get worse It reminds me of when people thought that Arafat dying was a good thing. Then BOOM, Hamas. People should be careful what they wish for, because they just might get it. Edited December 15, 2021 by Tenhigh 1 Quote
Billsfan1972 Posted December 15, 2021 Posted December 15, 2021 I love the cult of McD..... Started very early his first year. TBH he has grown on me, ever since he figured out that 300 yards passing is not a terrible thing and understood you can't rely on 17-14 games weekly. But he has certainly regressed this year and has been badly outcoached way too often. And then those who grasp at straws (like vs. TB saying he took over the defense after being gouged for 300 first half yards), there's always excuses. He was badly outcoached in every loss and even the wins didn't set himself apart. Add to that terrible results in every close game, you have to question him. No they won't fire him, unless a complete meltdown and miss the playoffs at 9-8, which certainly will raise questions. Quote
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