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Democracy’s Fiery Ordeal: The War in Ukraine 🇺🇦


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On 12/16/2021 at 1:20 PM, billsfan_34 said:

Yeah, and guys like me got wrapped up in them. They suck, and we owe our youth only to send them to war when it is an absolute must i.e. WW II.

Sometimes it makes more sense fighting a small war to prevent a larger one. Had we not appeased Hitler WW2 might not have been necessary 

 

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Biden people talking about supplying an insurgency in Ukraine incase Putin tries taking it. Stop the spread of Putinism/marxism

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The planning, described Sunday by a knowledgeable official, includes ways to provide weapons and other support to the Ukrainian military to resist invading Russian forces — and similar logistical support to insurgent groups if Russia topples the Ukrainian government and a guerrilla war begins.

The weapons the United States might provide include shoulder-fired antiaircraft missiles. The CIA’s delivery of such weapons, known at the time as “Stingers,” had a devastating effect on Soviet forces during their 10-year war in Afghanistan, from 1979 to 1989.

 

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2021/12/19/biden-ukraine-insurgents-russia/

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47 minutes ago, Tiberius said:

Sometimes it makes more sense fighting a small war to prevent a larger one. Had we not appeased Hitler WW2 might not have been necessary 

 

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Biden people talking about supplying an insurgency in Ukraine incase Putin tries taking it. Stop the spread of Putinism/marxism

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2021/12/19/biden-ukraine-insurgents-russia/

 

Maybe if Barry had done something the first time...

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29 minutes ago, Doc said:

 

Maybe if Barry had done something the first time...

 

Barry inherited the mess in Afghanistan and Iraq with R. Congress restricting his spending. Russia knew this , not the case or excuse now.

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1 hour ago, Tiberius said:

Sometimes it makes more sense fighting a small war to prevent a larger one. Had we not appeased Hitler WW2 might not have been necessary 

 

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Biden people talking about supplying an insurgency in Ukraine incase Putin tries taking it. Stop the spread of Putinism/marxism

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2021/12/19/biden-ukraine-insurgents-russia/

Head on over then, help the cause. Strong policy and strength through deterrence stops bigger wars also. But seriously, people that wanna rush to help other nations fight wars should head to the front of the line, if not zip it. Ive seen war, and cared for vets. Both are the ugly side of the business.

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9 minutes ago, billsfan_34 said:

Head on over then, help the cause. Strong policy and strength through deterrence stops bigger wars also. But seriously, people that wanna rush to help other nations fight wars should head to the front of the line, if not zip it. Ive seen war, and cared for vets. Both are the ugly side of the business.

It's in our interest to save free nations. The more free nations the more freedom. I'm a vet so I did my time. If you don't want anyone to fight, fine, just let Putin and the other Hitler like leaders take over, that would be great, huh? 

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46 minutes ago, Tiberius said:

It's in our interest to save free nations. The more free nations the more freedom. I'm a vet so I did my time. If you don't want anyone to fight, fine, just let Putin and the other Hitler like leaders take over, that would be great, huh? 

Is everybody hitler to you?

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Just now, Tiberius said:

Oh, did I touch a nerve there? Should I stop picking on your Marxist hero Putin? 😕

No, quite the opposite. When everybody’s hitler than no one is hitler. 
 

You need to get more creative with your scare tactics, hitler was so last year.

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1 hour ago, Tiberius said:

It's in our interest to save free nations. The more free nations the more freedom. I'm a vet so I did my time. If you don't want anyone to fight, fine, just let Putin and the other Hitler like leaders take over, that would be great, huh? 

Thanks for your sevice. Combat tours? How many? Every take care of vets that are both physically and mentally in despair? I am all for protecting the homeland, but I think I speak for many Americans that are sick of fighting other countries wars. To think Putin is an equivalent to Hitler is not a fair analogy, but he certainly is not a great actor in the world either. He plays chess, while Biden plays checkers, and if we did go to war, we certainly do not want to under this President. I did 21 years active, and my patience for endless constant wars is thin.

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4 minutes ago, billsfan_34 said:

Thanks for your sevice. Combat tours? How many? Every take care of vets that are both physically and mentally in despair? I am all for protecting the homeland, but I think I speak for many Americans that are sick of fighting other countries wars. To think Putin is an equivalent to Hitler is not a fair analogy, but he certainly is not a great actor in the world either. He plays chess, while Biden plays checkers, and if we did go to war, we certainly do not want to under this President. I did 21 years active, and my patience for endless constant wars is thin.

Wow, so Putin is smarter than Biden? Not Hitler, we need to let him be, none of our business, ok. The right in this country is really not into defending democracy anymore and into worshipping Putin types. No wonder the Trump Kim love fest went over so well with right 

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1 hour ago, ALF said:

 

Barry inherited the mess in Afghanistan and Iraq with R. Congress restricting his spending. Russia knew this , not the case or excuse now.

Barrack was president for 8 years, 9 if you include Biden’s tenure. Blaming his impotency on the Russia problem is absurd.   


Near as I can tell, his one act of defiance was expelling a bunch of low level Russian politicians, roughly 20 minutes before he vacated the Oval Office in a move clearly designed to creat issues for the incoming admin. 
 


 

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2 minutes ago, Tiberius said:

Wow, so Putin is smarter than Biden? Not Hitler, we need to let him be, none of our business, ok. The right in this country is really not into defending democracy anymore and into worshipping Putin types. No wonder the Trump Kim love fest went over so well with right 

A box is smarter than Biden- the dude is out to lunch. Be good, happy holidays.

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3 minutes ago, billsfan_34 said:

A box is smarter than Biden- the dude is out to lunch. Be good, happy holidays.

No, Biden's fine. He isn't the problem, though you want to make him so while murderous Putin looks to crush another republic. It seems there are many cheering him on. Those being beaten at the polls seem to be looking for safety in dictatorship but that's a deadly ignorance, fueled by the right. 

7 minutes ago, leh-nerd skin-erd said:

Barrack was president for 8 years, 9 if you include Biden’s tenure. Blaming his impotency on the Russia problem is absurd.   


Near as I can tell, his one act of defiance was expelling a bunch of low level Russian politicians, roughly 20 minutes before he vacated the Oval Office in a move clearly designed to creat issues for the incoming admin. 
 


 

Ya, blame the black guy 

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49 minutes ago, Tiberius said:

No, Biden's fine. He isn't the problem, though you want to make him so while murderous Putin looks to crush another republic. It seems there are many cheering him on. Those being beaten at the polls seem to be looking for safety in dictatorship but that's a deadly ignorance, fueled by the right. 

Ya, blame the black guy 

Why would you mock the legacy of his presidency by pandering to a silly lowest common denominator comment?  

 

He was the President of the US, supposedly internationally revered by those that we call Allies and had the juice to get things accomplished.  

 

If you think he did a great job with respect to Russia, say so.

 

If you think he did a poor job with respect to Russia, say so.   
 


 

 

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10 minutes ago, leh-nerd skin-erd said:

Why would you mock the legacy of his presidency by pandering to a silly lowest common denominator comment?  

 

He was the President of the US, supposedly internationally revered by those that we call Allies and had the juice to get things accomplished.  

 

If you think he did a great job with respect to Russia, say so.

 

If you think he did a poor job with respect to Russia, say so.   
 


 

 

I know, he should have fixed everything totally. He should have fixed Russia, made world peace and fed the hungry. So he failed to fix everything. Terrible, just terrible 

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51 minutes ago, Tiberius said:

I know, he should have fixed everything totally. He should have fixed Russia, made world peace and fed the hungry. So he failed to fix everything. Terrible, just terrible 

Who said that?  I replied to @ALF for his apologist commentary on BO, Russia and blaming the republicans.  I then responded to you for making a baseless and derogatory claim.  
 

Stop stomping your feet and man up. 
 

 

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2 minutes ago, leh-nerd skin-erd said:

Who said that?  I replied to @ALF for his apologist commentary on BO, Russia and blaming the republicans.  I then responded to you for making a baseless and derogatory claim.  
 

Stop stomping your feet and man up. 
 

 

Excuses for what? Obama not fixing the entire world and every problem in it? Good grief 

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