B-Man Posted March 30 Posted March 30 He (again) shows his true colors Ukrainian Leader Again States That He Does Not Recognize US Aid as ‘Loans’, Will Not Sign Reworked Mineral Rights Deal by Paul Serran It seems that Ukrainian Leader Volodymyr Zelensky has decided on a path that’ll send him clashing with US President Donald J. Trump and his administration. Besides repeatedly breaching the Trump-brokered partial ceasefire on energy and infrastructure, Zelensky has now made a TV statement that contains at least two very controversial points. First, he again stated that the hundreds of billions of dollars in US aid to the Kiev regime were NOT ‘loans’, but rather, donations – despite the fact that nothing was ever registered as such. Secondly, he alerted that Ukraine will NOT sign the reworked rare-earth/mineral exploration deal, although his aides had assured US officials that the deal was ready to be signed. https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2025/03/zelensky-defies-us-emboldened-euro-globalists-ukrainian-leader/
Coffeesforclosers Posted March 30 Posted March 30 (edited) 7 minutes ago, B-Man said: He (again) shows his true colors Ukrainian Leader Again States That He Does Not Recognize US Aid as ‘Loans’, Will Not Sign Reworked Mineral Rights Deal by Paul Serran It seems that Ukrainian Leader Volodymyr Zelensky has decided on a path that’ll send him clashing with US President Donald J. Trump and his administration. Besides repeatedly breaching the Trump-brokered partial ceasefire on energy and infrastructure, Zelensky has now made a TV statement that contains at least two very controversial points. First, he again stated that the hundreds of billions of dollars in US aid to the Kiev regime were NOT ‘loans’, but rather, donations – despite the fact that nothing was ever registered as such. Secondly, he alerted that Ukraine will NOT sign the reworked rare-earth/mineral exploration deal, although his aides had assured US officials that the deal was ready to be signed. https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2025/03/zelensky-defies-us-emboldened-euro-globalists-ukrainian-leader/ He doesn't want to become our colony. Shocking! What a Warmonger! In real news... Trump Says He’s ‘Pissed Off’ at Putin for Undermining Zelensky — Threatens Major Tariffs on Russia if They Stand in the Way of a Ceasefire Is 25% a magic number? Why is it that everyone seems to get the exact same percentage tariff? Shouldn't that number change based on a country's economic relationship to us? Edited March 30 by Coffeesforclosers
Doc Posted March 30 Posted March 30 10 minutes ago, B-Man said: He (again) shows his true colors Ukrainian Leader Again States That He Does Not Recognize US Aid as ‘Loans’, Will Not Sign Reworked Mineral Rights Deal by Paul Serran It seems that Ukrainian Leader Volodymyr Zelensky has decided on a path that’ll send him clashing with US President Donald J. Trump and his administration. Besides repeatedly breaching the Trump-brokered partial ceasefire on energy and infrastructure, Zelensky has now made a TV statement that contains at least two very controversial points. First, he again stated that the hundreds of billions of dollars in US aid to the Kiev regime were NOT ‘loans’, but rather, donations – despite the fact that nothing was ever registered as such. Secondly, he alerted that Ukraine will NOT sign the reworked rare-earth/mineral exploration deal, although his aides had assured US officials that the deal was ready to be signed. https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2025/03/zelensky-defies-us-emboldened-euro-globalists-ukrainian-leader/ Goodbye Ukraine.
Trump_is_Mentally_fit Posted March 30 Author Posted March 30 we have a very stupid president https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/rcna198729 WASHINGTON — President Donald Trump said he was “very angry” and “pissed off” when Russian President Vladimir Putin criticized the credibility of Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy’s leadership, adding that the comments were “not going in the right location.” Agence France-Presse reported that Putin on Friday called for a transitional government to be put in place in Ukraine, which could effectively push out Zelenskyy. “If Russia and I are unable to make a deal on stopping the bloodshed in Ukraine, and if I think it was Russia’s fault — which it might not be — but if I think it was Russia’s fault, I am going to put secondary tariffs on oil, on all oil coming out of Russia,” Trump said in an early-morning phone call with NBC News on Sunday. “That would be that if you buy oil from Russia, you can’t do business in the United States,” Trump said. “There will be a 25% tariff on all oil, a 25- to 50-point tariff on all oil.” The president’s comments come after he had previously criticized Zelenskyy, saying he was “sick” of his handling of the war and falsely calling him a dictator.
B-Man Posted March 30 Posted March 30 3 minutes ago, Coffeesforclosers said: He doesn't want to become our colony. Shocking! What a Warmonger! What a simplistic, laughable take. Expecting the leader of a country to keep his word ? Shocking.
aristocrat Posted March 30 Posted March 30 16 minutes ago, Coffeesforclosers said: I thought he was putins puppet?
Coffeesforclosers Posted March 30 Posted March 30 (edited) 7 minutes ago, aristocrat said: I thought he was putins puppet? I've never said that, so you must be calling someone else out? Edited March 30 by Coffeesforclosers
B-Man Posted March 31 Posted March 31 Zelenskyy, With EU Support, Continues Looking for Any Excuse to Derail or Avoid Peace Talks The dynamic is obvious to any intellectually honest observer, which is to say U.S. and Western media disqualify themselves and continue pushing preferred EU narratives. Ukraine President Volodymyr Zelensky has rejected the latest U.S. proposal for a minerals deal that would create a partnership to repay the United States for ongoing financial support. According to Zelenskyy, the deal to share in oil, gas and mineral revenue would amount to debt that would disqualify them from EU membership due to unstable financials. However, it is important for U.S. readers to remember the U.S. aid package already underway pays for the entire operation of the Ukraine federal spending liabilities, including pensions, government worker paychecks and everything normally within a govt budget. U.S. taxpayers are not only subsidizing the war with munitions, but we are also subsidizing the government operation and citizens of Ukraine. Within that spending there is MASSIVE corruption ongoing. When Zelensky rejects (1) the terms of a “minerals deal,” (2) rejects U.N peacekeepers, (3) rejects the predicate for peace that Russia will retain part of Eastern Ukraine geography, and (4) rejects the offered security guarantees, he is also rejecting the idea that American taxpayers should be repaid for all their support. Almost all of these rejections appear based on Zelensky’s belief the U.K, France and European allies can replace any support lost by President Trump changing his approach toward Ukraine. Zelensky, who has not been elected, is developing a reputation for being so difficult, so demanding, so spoiled and temperamental that neither Vladimir Putin nor President Trump wants to deal with him. https://theconservativetreehouse.com/blog/2025/03/30/zelenskyy-with-eu-support-continues-looking-for-any-excuse-to-derail-or-avoid-peace-talks-rejects-mineral-deal-demands-eu-ascension-and-security-guarantees/
All_Pro_Bills Posted March 31 Posted March 31 (edited) I expect a good deal of Zelensky's reluctance to accept any type of "peace deal" is the difference between the public nature of this conflict and the "secret" activities and drivers under the covers. In essence, Pentagon/CIA war planners were running the show and using Ukrainian forces to execute the plan. Given the war in such a scenario belongs just as much if not more to the US and its objectives (not the support for democracy theme many continue to fall for), why should his country that bore cost of casualties and lost territory agree to Trump's demands for mineral rights and other concessions for US support. In reality, the war was the child of America. Some excerpts from the NYT story (and interesting timing on this revelation too!). Americans overseeing "kill chain" One European intelligence chief recalled being taken aback to learn how deeply enmeshed his N.A.T.O. counterparts had become in Ukrainian operations. “They are part of the kill chain now,” he said. The partnership’s guiding idea was that this close cooperation might allow the Ukrainians to accomplish the unlikeliest of feats — to deliver the invading Russians a crushing blow. Biggest battlefield feats were actually the CIA/Pentagon An early proof of concept was a campaign against one of Russia’s most-feared battle groups, the 58th Combined Arms Army. In mid-2022, using American intelligence and targeting information, the Ukrainians unleashed a rocket barrage at the headquarters of the 58th in the Kherson region, killing generals and staff officers inside. Again and again, the group set up at another location; each time, the Americans found it and the Ukrainians destroyed it. Farther south, the partners set their sights on the Crimean port of Sevastopol, where the Russian Black Sea Fleet loaded missiles destined for Ukrainian targets onto warships and submarines. At the height of Ukraine’s 2022 counteroffensive, a predawn swarm of maritime drones, with support from the Central Intelligence Agency, attacked the port, damaging several warships and prompting the Russians to begin pulling them back. Overreach The Ukrainians sometimes saw the Americans as overbearing and controlling — the prototypical patronizing Americans. The Americans sometimes couldn’t understand why the Ukrainians didn’t simply accept good advice. Where the Americans focused on measured, achievable objectives, they saw the Ukrainians as constantly grasping for the big win, the bright, shining prize. Failed 2023 counteroffensive actually hatched at American HQ Yet at arguably the pivotal moment of the war — in mid-2023, as the Ukrainians mounted a counteroffensive to build victorious momentum after the first year’s successes — the strategy devised in Wiesbaden fell victim to the fractious internal politics of Ukraine: The president, Volodymyr Zelensky, versus his military chief (and potential electoral rival), and the military chief versus his headstrong subordinate commander. When Mr. Zelensky sided with the subordinate, the Ukrainians poured vast complements of men and resources into a finally futile campaign to recapture the devastated city of Bakhmut. Within months, the entire counteroffensive ended in stillborn failure. Biden banned clandestine operations in public, while crossing red lines in secret Time and again, the Biden administration authorized clandestine operations it had previously prohibited. American military advisers were dispatched to Kyiv and later allowed to travel closer to the fighting. Military and C.I.A. officers in Wiesbaden helped plan and support a campaign of Ukrainian strikes in Russian-annexed Crimea. Finally, the military and then the C.I.A. received the green light to enable pinpoint strikes deep inside Russia itself. In some ways, Ukraine was, on a wider canvas, a rematch in a long history of U.S.-Russia proxy wars — Vietnam in the 1960s, Afghanistan in the 1980s, Syria three decades later. Task Force Dragon The defense secretary, Lloyd J. Austin III, and General Milley had put the 18th Airborne in charge of delivering weapons and advising the Ukrainians on how to use them. When President Joseph R. Biden Jr. signed on to the M777s, the Tony Bass Auditorium became a full-fledged headquarters. A Polish general became General Donahue’s deputy. A British general would manage the logistics hub on the former basketball court. A Canadian would oversee training. The auditorium basement became what is known as a fusion center, producing intelligence about Russian battlefield positions, movements and intentions. There, according to intelligence officials, officers from the Central Intelligence Agency, the National Security Agency, the Defense Intelligence Agency and the National Geospatial-Intelligence Agency were joined by coalition intelligence officers. The 18th Airborne is known as Dragon Corps; the new operation would be Task Force Dragon. All that was needed to bring the pieces together was the reluctant Ukrainian top command. Debate over plausible deniability Soon the Ukrainians, nearly 20 in all — intelligence officers, operational planners, communications and fire-control specialists — began arriving in Wiesbaden. Every morning, officers recalled, the Ukrainians and Americans gathered to survey Russian weapons systems and ground forces and determine the ripest, highest-value targets. The priority lists were then handed over to the intelligence fusion center, where officers analyzed streams of data to pinpoint the targets’ locations. Inside the U.S. European Command, this process gave rise to a fine but fraught linguistic debate: Given the delicacy of the mission, was it unduly provocative to call targets “targets”? Some officers thought “targets” was appropriate. Others called them “intel tippers,” because the Russians were often moving and the information would need verification on the ground. The debate was settled by Maj. Gen. Timothy D. Brown, European Command’s intelligence chief: The locations of Russian forces would be “points of interest.” Intelligence on airborne threats would be “tracks of interest.” “If you ever get asked the question, ‘Did you pass a target to the Ukrainians?’ you can legitimately not be lying when you say, ‘No, I did not,’” one U.S. official explained. CIA and assassinations of Russian top officers The White House also prohibited sharing intelligence on the locations of “strategic” Russian leaders, like the armed forces chief, Gen. Valery Gerasimov. “Imagine how that would be for us if we knew that the Russians helped some other country assassinate our chairman,” another senior U.S. official said. “Like, we’d go to war.” Similarly, Task Force Dragon couldn’t share intelligence that identified the locations of individual Russians. The way the system worked, Task Force Dragon would tell the Ukrainians where Russians were positioned. But to protect intelligence sources and methods from Russian spies, it would not say how it knew what it knew. US operations room directly oversaw HIMARS strikes Wiesbaden would oversee each HIMARS strike... HIMARS strikes that resulted in 100 or more Russian dead or wounded came almost weekly. Russian forces were left dazed and confused. Their morale plummeted, and with it their will to fight. And as the HIMARS arsenal grew from eight to 38 and the Ukrainian strikers became more proficient, an American official said, the toll rose as much as fivefold. “We became a small part, maybe not the best part, but a small part, of your system,” General Zabrodskyi explained, adding: “Most states did this over a period of 10 years, 20 years, 30 years. But we were forced to do it in a matter of weeks.” Edited March 31 by All_Pro_Bills 2
Homelander Posted April 1 Posted April 1 On 3/1/2025 at 3:36 PM, JimmyNoodles said: Zelensky will be blamed for not wearing a suit, for not observing the sanctity of the oval office, for not saying thank you enough LOL!!!!!! It was never about the suit. 1
Coffeesforclosers Posted April 1 Posted April 1 This whole thread is fake news. President Trump ended this "war" two months ago. Just like he said he would. Wake up.
Doc Posted April 1 Posted April 1 15 hours ago, Homelander said: It was never about the suit. Yup. Not sure why the Dems thought it was.
Coffeesforclosers Posted April 1 Posted April 1 Russia 'Cannot Accept' Trump's Ukraine Peace Plans-Newsweek Quote In an interview with NBC News on Sunday, Trump said he was "very angry" and "pissed off" with Russian President Vladimir Putin's recent suggestion that Ukraine should implement a transitional government as any part of a ceasefire deal. It would essentially push Ukraine's President Volodymyr Zelensky out of power, and Trump rejected the idea. He also had a warning for Putin. President Trump does not think Zelensky is the problem. Someone should go educate him, right guys?
Homelander Posted April 1 Posted April 1 2 hours ago, Doc said: Yup. Not sure why the Dems thought it was.
Coffeesforclosers Posted April 2 Posted April 2 Quote "The dominating view in the United States Senate is that Russia is the aggressor, and that this horrific war and Putin’s aggression must end now and be deterred in the future,” they added. Bipartisan senators introduce primary, secondary Russia sanction Trump's administration, but still Biden's policies in all the ways that matter.
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