Roundybout Posted Saturday at 12:53 PM Posted Saturday at 12:53 PM 10 minutes ago, AlBUNDY4TDS said: The left still can't meme. Maybe Europe should step up and contribute more. I’m sure they will. Then what happens? 1
Joe Ferguson forever Posted Saturday at 12:54 PM Posted Saturday at 12:54 PM 4 minutes ago, AlBUNDY4TDS said: Give me a break. The meeting went south soon after he said that. Zelensky has no leverage and he knows that. No more money. Why doesn't Europe contribute more? no leverage as a result of the obese orange putin puppet. now there's no question of that. All our historic allies and enemies are aware.
aristocrat Posted Saturday at 01:00 PM Posted Saturday at 01:00 PM 43 minutes ago, 4th&long said: And here we have the useual Maga idiots that love Putin and communism defending Putins puppet captin cheto. Who gives a ***** what an Us Sierra to say? Maga needs to be crushed like the roaches they are. So to be clear you want to keep funding this war which kills tens of thousands of people minimum yearly, and the only way for it to win is to send in US troops?
Orlando Buffalo Posted Saturday at 01:01 PM Posted Saturday at 01:01 PM 6 minutes ago, Joe Ferguson forever said: no leverage as a result of the obese orange putin puppet. now there's no question of that. All our historic allies and enemies are aware. If you can answer one question I will respect your opinion, at least a little, why do you support the guy who cancelled his elections?
4th&long Posted Saturday at 01:06 PM Posted Saturday at 01:06 PM 1 minute ago, aristocrat said: So to be clear you want to keep funding this war which kills tens of thousands of people minimum yearly, and the only way for it to win is to send in US troops? To be clear, did I say that? If trump is so strong tell Putin to stop the invasion. He can't, he won't, he is weak. He doesn't know how to end the war. The only thing he knows is how to be a bully so that's what he did yesterday, bullied the weaker side, scared to stand up to Putin. Trump is weak, Maga is weak, the USA looks weak. 1
Joe Ferguson forever Posted Saturday at 01:09 PM Posted Saturday at 01:09 PM 2 minutes ago, Orlando Buffalo said: If you can answer one question I will respect your opinion, at least a little, why do you support the guy who cancelled his elections? i couldn't care less whether you respect me. It will never be reciprocal. Polls show his country still supports him. Changing leadership in the midst of a brutal war would cause confusion and inefficiency. Finally, he offered to resign in exchange for NATO membership. A lesser man would have resigned long ago. His chances of being killed by the russians are not good. My question to you is why hasn't Putin allowed a real election in over 20 years. He's a dictator, pure and simple. trump and seemingly, MAGAs support him. Why? 1 1
4th&long Posted Saturday at 01:10 PM Posted Saturday at 01:10 PM 6 minutes ago, Orlando Buffalo said: If you can answer one question I will respect your opinion, at least a little, why do you support the guy who cancelled his elections? This is a weak argument. They are in war and his country backs him and his parliament agreed to cancel it. To act like he is a dictator is just iffy even for a teacher. 1 1
Joe Ferguson forever Posted Saturday at 01:11 PM Posted Saturday at 01:11 PM Just now, 4th&long said: This is a weak argument. They are in war and his country backs him and his parliament agreed to cancel it. To act like he is a dictator is just iffy even for a teacher. leave teachers alone. Some of my best friends are educators. He's an outlier. 1
AlBUNDY4TDS Posted Saturday at 01:12 PM Posted Saturday at 01:12 PM 17 minutes ago, Joe Ferguson forever said: no leverage as a result of the obese orange putin puppet. now there's no question of that. All our historic allies and enemies are aware. Why doesn't Europe contribute more? Try answering without using Trump, putin, or maga. Thanks. 19 minutes ago, Roundybout said: I’m sure they will. Then what happens? Why haven't they already?
aristocrat Posted Saturday at 01:15 PM Posted Saturday at 01:15 PM 7 minutes ago, 4th&long said: To be clear, did I say that? If trump is so strong tell Putin to stop the invasion. He can't, he won't, he is weak. He doesn't know how to end the war. The only thing he knows is how to be a bully so that's what he did yesterday, bullied the weaker side, scared to stand up to Putin. Trump is weak, Maga is weak, the USA looks weak. so what do you want to do to end the war? Either you’re for continuing it on until Ukraine has no men left to continue on as a country or we have to send troops in and end it the way. State what you want to do with the war or stfu
4th&long Posted Saturday at 01:17 PM Posted Saturday at 01:17 PM (edited) 31 minutes ago, Joe Ferguson forever said: i couldn't care less whether you respect me. It will never be reciprocal. Polls show his country still supports him. Changing leadership in the midst of a brutal war would cause confusion and inefficiency. Finally, he offered to resign in exchange for NATO membership. A lesser man would have resigned long ago. His chances of being killed by the russians are not good. My question to you is why hasn't Putin allowed a real election in over 20 years. He's a dictator, pure and simple. trump and seemingly, MAGAs support him. Why? There is no "seemingly", they support Putin and Russia. I have pressed the question countless times, why doesn't caption cheto tell Russia to stop the invasion, not one of the weak minded imbeciles can answer that because their right wing influencers or fox news has told them what say yet. Neither trump nor any of these idiots has even considered that possibility yet. Edited Saturday at 01:41 PM by 4th&long
Joe Ferguson forever Posted Saturday at 01:22 PM Posted Saturday at 01:22 PM (edited) 14 minutes ago, AlBUNDY4TDS said: Why doesn't Europe contribute more? Try answering without using Trump, putin, or maga. Thanks. Why haven't they already? They will. I suppose they thought the US was an actual ally. Now they know better and are looking for a new "leader of the free world". And trump, magazine and Putin are integral to any conversation on Ukraine you idiot. Even more central than zelensky given that Putin invaded Ukraine and every decent, honorable country has condemned Putin for this. Perhaps most disturbing is that the Europeans have nuclear weapons too. WW3 will most likely be started by Putin and not Zelensky as trump dishonestly stated https://www.politico.eu/article/volodymyr-zelenskyy-donald-trump-jd-vance-oval-office-white-house-us-ukraine-war-russia/ “There is an aggressor, which is Russia and a people who have suffered aggression, which is Ukraine,” said French President Emmanuel Macron, hitting back at Trump’s attempts to treat the two sides evenly. “You have to respect those who have been fighting since the beginning because they are fighting for their dignity, their independence, for their children, and for the security of Europe.” Macron also noted that the U.S. had not been the only country to support Kyiv, stressing that it was also backed by European countries, Canada and Japan. In the Oval Office, Trump told Zelenskyy his refusal to concede to Russia at the negotiating table was “gambling with World War III.” Later, Macron told Portuguese television: “If someone is playing World War III, his name is Vladimir Putin.” 9 minutes ago, 4th&long said: There is no "seemingly", they support Putin and Russia. I have pressed the question countless times, why doesn't caption cheto tell risks to stop the invasion, not one of the weak minded imbeciles can answer that because their right wing influencers or fox news has told them what say say. Neither trump nor any of these idiots has even considered that possibility yet. my point there is that I don't think they know what they believe. In fact, like trump, ideology is not really important. Issues are most importantly transactional. what is best for me, right now and their answers are often incorrect, especially long term. right and wrong are unimportant. Edited Saturday at 01:27 PM by Joe Ferguson forever 1
4th&long Posted Saturday at 01:28 PM Posted Saturday at 01:28 PM (edited) 24 minutes ago, aristocrat said: so what do you want to do to end the war? Either you’re for continuing it on until Ukraine has no men left to continue on as a country or we have to send troops in and end it the way. State what you want to do with the war or stfu First of all ***** you. Those are not the only options. Stand up to Putin you candy ass. Did you ever consider the possibility (which it's obvious you didn't because it's obvious you have zero thinking ability) that Ukraine won't give up no matter if they have USA support or not? Would you give up if China sends 500,000,000 men on US soil? No, you would fight to the death. The rest of your points are just weak! Edited Saturday at 01:40 PM by 4th&long
JDHillFan Posted Saturday at 01:31 PM Posted Saturday at 01:31 PM 3 minutes ago, Joe Ferguson forever said: They will. I suppose they thought the US was an actual ally. As our allies, shouldn’t they have shared more of the burden all along? Why would our allies so willingly let America shoulder the load? All the while our allies have spent more on Russian oil than they have on defense of Ukraine. Another Biden failure. https://www.theguardian.com/world/2025/feb/24/eu-spends-more-russian-oil-gas-than-financial-aid-ukraine-report In the calendar year 2024, the EU spent 39% more on Russian fossil fuel imports than it set aside for Ukraine. The aid figure does not include military or humanitarian contributions. Vaibhav Raghunandan, an analyst at Crea and coauthor of the report, said: “Purchasing Russian fossil fuels is, quite plainly, akin to sending financial aid to the Kremlin and enabling its invasion.
4th&long Posted Saturday at 01:32 PM Posted Saturday at 01:32 PM 12 minutes ago, 4th&long said: There is no "seemingly", they support Putin and Russia. I have pressed the question countless times, why doesn't caption cheto tell Russia to stop the invasion, not one of the weak minded imbeciles can answer that because their right wing influencers or fox news has told them what say say. Neither trump nor any of these idiots has even considered that possibility yet. Ukraine had nukes and gave them up which these idiots are to weak and afraid to acknowledge. I'm sure Ukraine will try to develop our aquire again in the future and will not sign any deal to give them up again. 1
Orlando Buffalo Posted Saturday at 01:34 PM Posted Saturday at 01:34 PM 18 minutes ago, 4th&long said: This is a weak argument. They are in war and his country backs him and his parliament agreed to cancel it. To act like he is a dictator is just iffy even for a teacher. It is amazing that I never called him a dictator but you called him an "iffy" one. My argument has always been, while Putin is worse, the Ukraine is a corrupt country who is not going to win the war without US troops on the ground. These two things are enough reason to have stopped the war two years ago.
4th&long Posted Saturday at 01:36 PM Posted Saturday at 01:36 PM 21 minutes ago, Joe Ferguson forever said: leave teachers alone. Some of my best friends are educators. He's an outlier. ***** him. But honestly I do respect teachers. When I was doing a job for one I would always stop and talk to them, I would tell them if I was to do it all over again I would become a teacher mainly because I love kids so much. It's the only only job I could think to do without people thinking you are a pedo. I was always carful expressing my love for children and wanting to work with them because of that. 3 minutes ago, Orlando Buffalo said: It is amazing that I never called him a dictator but you called him an "iffy" one. My argument has always been, while Putin is worse, the Ukraine is a corrupt country who is not going to win the war without US troops on the ground. These two things are enough reason to have stopped the war two years ago. Most reasonable people realize that Ukraine was going to fight to the death no matter what, not a hard concept to grasp. The "iffy" was auto correct changing my words as always.
aristocrat Posted Saturday at 01:39 PM Posted Saturday at 01:39 PM 5 minutes ago, 4th&long said: First of all ***** you. Those are not the only options. Stand up to Putin you candy ass. Did you ever consider the possibility (which it's obvious you didn't because it's obvious you have zero thinking ability) that Ukraine won't give up no matter if they have USA support or not? Would you give up if China sends 500,000,000 men on US soil? No, you would fight to the death. The rest of your points ate just weak! Is china gonna have their soldiers swim here? How exactly would they get to our shores? I think last I checked they had like 40 troop ships that can carry something like 500 troops. It would take them decades to set up on our shores. Me and a few buddies could set up and just watch them starve to death cause they’d run out of food. China has a large military but they have no way of moving their military off their own soil let alone the supply chain to support their army if they decided to go somewhere. You’re not very bright are you? 1
4th&long Posted Saturday at 01:44 PM Posted Saturday at 01:44 PM 3 minutes ago, aristocrat said: Is china gonna have their soldiers swim here? How exactly would they get to our shores? I think last I checked they had like 40 troop ships that can carry something like 500 troops. It would take them decades to set up on our shores. Me and a few buddies could set up and just watch them starve to death cause they’d run out of food. China has a large military but they have no way of moving their military off their own soil let alone the supply chain to support their army if they decided to go somewhere. You’re not very bright are you? Totally missed the point. Right over your head. Never mind, now I see how people become trump supporters.
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