AlBUNDY4TDS Posted February 28 Posted February 28 On 2/28/2025 at 11:06 PM, Mikie2times said: Pillow soft, just because somebody was a news journalist and went they training at a young age doesn’t mean the 40 year old version of him isn’t a marshmallow. Expand Lmao, sure dude.
Mikie2times Posted February 28 Posted February 28 On 2/28/2025 at 11:07 PM, AlBUNDY4TDS said: Lmao, sure dude. Expand Maybe I missed his masculinity as his voice was cracking trying to defend his views from TV shows.
AlBUNDY4TDS Posted February 28 Posted February 28 On 2/28/2025 at 11:08 PM, Mikie2times said: Maybe I missed his masculinity as his voice was cracking trying to defend his views from TV shows. Expand Believe what you want, this is America. I don't agree.
Mikie2times Posted February 28 Posted February 28 What’s funny or not so funny, about this whole thing…. If you knew nothing of any of the countries and only evaluated the United States behavior post Trump you would believe Russia is our closest allies, Ukraine, Canada, Mexico, and China were our greatest enemies and we just felt complete indifference to all of Europe. I guess all in the name of America first? 1
Coffeesforclosers Posted February 28 Posted February 28 On 2/28/2025 at 10:42 PM, sherpa said: This entire thing is nonsense, and I spent my years from 22 to 28 planning, training, teaching and working to destroy the USSR. This is a never ending European trash hole for US money. We should not fund his desires, nor facilitate Z's desire for his reputation. It is time to end this massacre, and end US financial support for this lost cause. Expand When was the last time we brokered a peace that ended in something besides: 1. A decades long commitment. 2. A collapsed former ally and our humiliation.
Mikie2times Posted February 28 Posted February 28 On 2/28/2025 at 11:10 PM, AlBUNDY4TDS said: Believe what you want, this is Amurica. I don't agree. Expand Fixed it
JDHillFan Posted February 28 Posted February 28 On 2/28/2025 at 10:43 PM, Mikie2times said: It was humorous seeing Vance stammering trying to defend his opinions with things he saw on TV. He’s one of those guys that will act tough if he’s hanging out with his friends but he would just shrink alone under any marginal threat. Expand Yeah. He really shrank speaking to the Europeans a few days back. Great analysis. 🤦🏻♂️🤦🏻♀️🤦🏻 1
4th&long Posted February 28 Posted February 28 On 2/28/2025 at 11:08 PM, Mikie2times said: Maybe I missed his masculinity as his voice was cracking trying to defend his views from TV shows. Expand Or was it the mascara? Guys who wear that are tough. 1
njbuff Posted February 28 Posted February 28 On 2/28/2025 at 11:10 PM, AlBUNDY4TDS said: Believe what you want, this is America. I don't agree. Expand These people cry over EVERYTHING about Trump. Do you really think these same clowns would come on here and give Trump props if they brokered a deal today? Get real. You know they would be crying. 1
Mikie2times Posted February 28 Posted February 28 On 2/28/2025 at 11:18 PM, njbuff said: These people cry over EVERYTHING about Trump. Do you really think these same clowns would come on here and give Trump props if they brokered a deal today? Get real. You know they would be crying. Expand Do you really think his supporters would be capable of discussing when he’s making clear mistakes? I like how he’s throwing a wrench in the system. I’m not a very big supporter of the political status quo. But how abruptly this is all happening and the alliances he is forming or choosing not to form will have impacts on the future. He doesn’t know what those are, neither do I, neither do you. But one thing that seems beneficial in the world of global positioning and politics is stabilization. All of it seems like it will become destabilized at the pace we are on. Maybe some feel that is something that had to happen. Careful what you wish for I would say. 1
4th&long Posted February 28 Posted February 28 Look up the Budapest memorandum you people want to educate yourself. You will see why Ukraine gave up its nukes among other countries and what the USA and other countries were supposed to do. I'll vibe you one guess at the first country to break that agreement. Of course trump never honers these things either. On 2/28/2025 at 11:18 PM, njbuff said: These people cry over EVERYTHING about Trump. Do you really think these same clowns would come on here and give Trump props if they brokered a deal today? Get real. You know they would be crying. Expand Not at all. If he could broker a deal that doesn't include Ukraine surrendering all it's land and becoming part of Russia he would get the credit he would deserve. So far all he's accomplished is blaming Ukraine for being invaded. 1 1
Roundybout Posted February 28 Posted February 28 On 2/28/2025 at 11:02 PM, AlBUNDY4TDS said: This is completely laughable. The dudes a marine and would wipe the floor with you within 3 seconds. What is wrong with people? Expand Zelensky asked a very simple question, "have you ever been to Ukraine," and Vance completely melted down. It was disgraceful. 2 1
njbuff Posted February 28 Posted February 28 On 2/28/2025 at 11:28 PM, Mikie2times said: Do you really think his supporters would be capable of discussing when he’s making clear mistakes? I like how he’s throwing a wrench in the system. I’m not a very big supporter of the political status quo. But how abruptly this is all happening and the alliances he is forming or choosing not to form will have impacts on the future. He doesn’t know what those are, neither do I, neither do you. But one thing that seems beneficial in the world of global positioning and politics is stabilization. All of it seems like it will become destabilized at the pace we are on. Maybe some feel that is something that had to happen. Careful what you wish for I would say. Expand I don’t know if this board is a good gauge, but I know Trump supporters who call him out all the time. You don’t always have to agree with the person you politically support. That’s ok.
Mikie2times Posted February 28 Posted February 28 (edited) On 2/28/2025 at 11:28 PM, 4th&long said: Look up the Budapest memorandum you people want to educate yourself. You will see why Ukraine gave up its nukes among other countries and what the USA and other countries were supposed to do. I'll vibe you one guess at the first country to break that agreement. Of course trump never honers these things either. Not at all. If he could broker a deal that doesn't include Ukraine surrendering all it's land and becoming part of Russia he would get the credit he would deserve. So far all he's accomplished is blaming Ukraine for being invaded. Expand Can you imagine if a country invaded and occupied the US over several years. Then a foreign leader tried to resolve it by seemingly siding with our invaders, accusing the US of starting it, and calling our president a dictator. Asking for damages for war support in the form of minerals and basically shaming our leaders in public demanding they say thank you and bow like children. I don’t care what you think of Ukraine, but to think of the same thing happening to us and how people would respond just shows how disconnected Americans are with this situation and what they feel is acceptable. Edited February 28 by Mikie2times 1
IrishLass Posted February 28 Posted February 28 On 2/28/2025 at 11:13 PM, Mikie2times said: What’s funny or not so funny, about this whole thing…. If you knew nothing of any of the countries and only evaluated the United States behavior post Trump you would believe Russia is our closest allies, Ukraine, Canada, Mexico, and China were our greatest enemies and we just felt complete indifference to all of Europe. I guess all in the name of America first? Expand Prior to Trump we weren't even our own ally. In other words, the power running our government wasn't running it on behalf of the American people, but on behalf of other powers and of course self-enrichment by the people running it. As to who's really running some of these other countries, that would also be interesting to note. And you didn't even include the UK, hmm. 1
Mikie2times Posted February 28 Posted February 28 On 2/28/2025 at 11:40 PM, IrishLass said: Prior to Trump we weren't even our own ally. In other words, the power running our government wasn't running it on behalf of the American people, but on behalf of other powers and of course self-enrichment by the people running it. As to who's really running some of these other countries, that would also be interesting to note. And you didn't even include the UK, hmm. Expand So in your eyes if a guy wants to find a new friend group the best was to do that is punch all his current friends in the face? We can shift more towards not being the world police while not pooping all over everybody and leaving plenty of enemies in the process.
Big Blitz Posted February 28 Posted February 28 On 2/28/2025 at 10:21 PM, Niagara Bill said: Hey, give Zelensky credit, it takes both trump and Vance to double team him. So now he has stood up to trump, Vance and Putin...it use to be popular and heroic to stand upmto commies. Now the US doesn't think that is OK. All those Vietnam vets must sure feel disrespected. Expand We voted out the commies. They’re right here. We stand up to them every day. 1
Niagara Bill Posted February 28 Posted February 28 On 2/28/2025 at 10:42 PM, sherpa said: This entire thing is nonsense, and I spent my years from 22 to 28 planning, training, teaching and working to destroy the USSR. This is a never ending European trash hole for US money. We should not fund his desires, nor facilitate Z's desire for his reputation. It is time to end this massacre, and end US financial support for this lost cause. Expand Then pull out and give Putin what he wants...choose, freedom or communism Most Presidents have no problem choosing. Stay out of the press and be serious. Trump wants to be all Hollywood... People can agree to things quietly that cannot be done in public, Zelinsky has a constituency to deal with to. They have lost 400,000, and that cannot be for not. They stood against Putin. If he wins who is next. On 2/28/2025 at 11:54 PM, Big Blitz said: We voted out the commies. They’re right here. We stand up to them every day. Expand Woke is not commie...but certainly AOC and gang were close .
Big Blitz Posted February 28 Posted February 28 On 2/28/2025 at 11:54 PM, Niagara Bill said: Then pull out and give Putin what he wants...choose, freedom or communism Most Presidents have no problem choosing. Stay out of the press and be serious. Trump wants to be all Hollywood... People can agree to things quietly that cannot be done in public, Zelinsky has a constituency to deal with to. They have lost 400,000, and that cannot be for not. They stood against Putin. If he wins who is next. Expand Whats more socialist in Russia then Britain? Whats more communist than Jake Tapper? On 2/28/2025 at 11:54 PM, Niagara Bill said: Then pull out and give Putin what he wants...choose, freedom or communism Most Presidents have no problem choosing. Stay out of the press and be serious. Trump wants to be all Hollywood... People can agree to things quietly that cannot be done in public, Zelinsky has a constituency to deal with to. They have lost 400,000, and that cannot be for not. They stood against Putin. If he wins who is next. Woke is not commie...but certainly AOC and gang were close . Expand DEI is communist. 10000000 percent 21st century communism. Refute that.
sherpa Posted March 1 Posted March 1 On 2/28/2025 at 11:54 PM, Niagara Bill said: Then pull out and give Putin what he wants...choose, freedom or communism Expand There are other options for a solution. What is going on now is not one of them. Your's is the Zelensky ultimatum, which is not going to work. 1 1
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