Democracy’s Fiery Ordeal: The War in Ukraine 🇺🇦

[wnyguy]

10 minutes ago, Starr-Bills said:

I'm not you don't see me in the Israel thread. I have no idea what to do with that. But "no aid was withheld" is like there was a peaceful transfer of power in 2021. Sure both are "true" except for the parts where he treated to withhold aid and where he didn't care that his VP was going to hung by a mob he set loose. (two impeachments as well from this actions, hummm). 

 

And I have said multiple times that Biden should have and should do more to support Ukraine. So I'm not sure what your point is. 

 

Seems like the accounting problem is on the pentagon's side...

 

And looks like someone is looking out for all your hard earned tax dollars...

 

 

I know you don't really believe the things you post, (I mean who in their right mind would?) you're just posting like a liberal hack to get a reaction. Well done Mr. Bills but I will try to keep from falling for it in the future.

[Tommy Callahan]

How much is our debt payment now?  More than we spend on defense.

Edited October 21 by Tommy Callahan

[All_Pro_Bills]

4 minutes ago, Tommy Callahan said:

How much is our debt payment now?  More than we spend on defense.

That's why it's so easy to get all these funding initiatives through without much pushback.

If they said we're raising your taxes by 400 million to pay for this it might receive a different response. But for "free"? Sure let's fund everything. 

Donate billions to end "cat juggling" in Mexico too.

[Tiberius]

 

[aristocrat]

Europe can handle it now. We can offer them moral support and sell them weapons but perhaps it’s time they put their big boy pants and stop relying on us to solve all problems. 

[Tiberius]

On 11/10/2024 at 8:41 AM, aristocrat said:

Europe can handle it now. We can offer them moral support and sell them weapons but perhaps it’s time they put their big boy pants and stop relying on us to solve all problems. 

Trump has already pledged the United States would solve this war. Appeasement is the policy he is pushing. Putin is happy about this. 

 

I hope Trump isn't so evil as to deny Ukraine anti-missile systems. That would be like helping Putin murder people 

[Biden is Mentally Fit]

8 minutes ago, Tiberius said:

Trump has already pledged the United States would solve this war. Appeasement is the policy he is pushing. Putin is happy about this. 

 

I hope Trump isn't so evil as to deny Ukraine anti-missile systems. That would be like helping Putin murder people 

Negotiated peace blows. More bodies is where it’s at. 

[Tiberius]

Just now, Biden is Mentally Fit said:

Negotiated peace blows. More bodies is where it’s at. 

And just like Hitler in 1938, Putin will promise not to go on murdering people. Now I want to buy the world a coke and smile 

 

 

[All_Pro_Bills]

1 minute ago, Tiberius said:

And just like Hitler in 1938, Putin will promise not to go on murdering people. Now I want to buy the world a coke and smile 

 

 

We could put it to a vote but I wouldn't bet the fate of the world that you're the next Nostradamus when it comes to predictions about the future.

[Tiberius]

Just now, All_Pro_Bills said:

We could put it to a vote but I wouldn't bet the fate of the world that you're the next Nostradamus when it comes to predictions about the future.

Ever read a book about Nostradamus? 

 

Predicting a future based on Putin's actions? You trust him, good people don't 

[Westside]

4 minutes ago, Tiberius said:

Ever read a book about Nostradamus? 

 

Predicting a future based on Putin's actions? You trust him, good people don't 

Putin wanted cackles to win. Kind of blows your stupid ass theory out of the water.

[Tiberius]

4 minutes ago, Westside said:

Putin wanted cackles to win. Kind of blows your stupid ass theory out of the water.

Why lie? You think someone will actually believe this trash? 

 

 

Trump's personality is rubbing off on you 

 

Please, stop telling such stupid, easily provable lies. 

 

You are a liar 

[All_Pro_Bills]

36 minutes ago, Tiberius said:

Ever read a book about Nostradamus? 

 

Predicting a future based on Putin's actions? You trust him, good people don't 

You're parroting a re-branded version of the "domino theory" used by war proponents during the Vietnam war that justified escalation and commitment of US forces based on the false premise that if Vietnam fell to the communists then all of Southeast Asia would turn "red". That prediction failed as will yours here.

 

At the moment, a negotiated settlement between the parties appears to be the most likely outcome.

[Tiberius]

18 minutes ago, All_Pro_Bills said:

You're parroting a re-branded version of the "domino theory" used by war proponents during the Vietnam war that justified escalation and commitment of US forces based on the false premise that if Vietnam fell to the communists then all of Southeast Asia would turn "red". That prediction failed as will yours here.

 

At the moment, a negotiated settlement between the parties appears to be the most likely outcome.

No, I'm echoing the anti-appeasement argument. When Hitler was appeased he did knock over the next domino. 

 

Putin is a war monger. He should just leave Ukraine. Don't you agree? 

 

You think its ok for Trump to help Putin consolidate his gains over a people he conquered with brute force? 

 

Trump is on Putin's side 

[Tiberius]

Trump claims he will end war on day one. Then Putin plasters naked pictures of Trump's wife all over prime time Russian tv. 

 

Now that's respect! 🤣

[wnyguy]

2 minutes ago, Tiberius said:

Trump claims he will end war on day one. Then Putin plasters naked pictures of Trump's wife all over prime time Russian tv. 

 

Now that's respect! 🤣

I thought you said he and Trump were tight? That seems like a mean thing to do to a buddy.

[Tiberius]

5 minutes ago, wnyguy said:

I thought you said he and Trump were tight? That seems like a mean thing to do to a buddy.

Trump stiffs everyone. Putin helped him get elected now the relationship has soured, I guess. Let's hope it stays that way 

[\GoBillsInDallas/]

2 hours ago, Tiberius said:

Trump stiffs everyone.

 

[Biden is Mentally Fit]

https://www.cnn.com/2024/11/16/europe/zelensky-trump-ukraine-war-ending-intl/index.html

 

Very disappointing news for Tiberius. 

 

Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky on Friday said Russia’s war in Ukraine will end “faster” when Donald Trump takes over as US president.

Speaking in a radio interview with Ukrainian public broadcaster Suspilne, Zelensky admitted to a difficult situation on the battlefield, where Russia has been pressing its advantages in manpower and weaponry.

Zelensky stressed that, on Ukraine’s part, “We must do everything to ensure that the war ends next year through diplomatic means.”

 

[All_Pro_Bills]

On 11/11/2024 at 11:34 AM, Tiberius said:

No, I'm echoing the anti-appeasement argument. When Hitler was appeased he did knock over the next domino. 

 

Putin is a war monger. He should just leave Ukraine. Don't you agree? 

 

You think its ok for Trump to help Putin consolidate his gains over a people he conquered with brute force? 

 

Trump is on Putin's side 

The anti-appeasement argument is let's continue to fund the war until every Ukranian is dead. And what you call appeasement is what most people call negotiating. 

I think the Russians should leave Ukraine but so should the Americans. 

And Trump is far from helping Putin but after 8+ years of non-stop Russia, Russia, Russia propoganda that's how you see every event.

So they negotiate some mutually agreeable settlement and if Putin renegs on the deal or causes trouble somewhere else we have overwhelming force superiority to deal with it. Problem solved.