Democracy’s Fiery Ordeal: The War in Ukraine 🇺🇦

[BillsFanNC]

 

[All_Pro_Bills]

23 minutes ago, BillsFanNC said:

 

When does the Russian lawyer employed by FusionGPS and Perkins Coie show up and offer a deal from Putin?

 

Now that I think about it, they most likely falsified business records to hide the payments to her. Calling it "legal expenses". I understand in NYS that's considered a crime depending on the ideological affiliation of the perpetrator.

Edited September 27, 2024 by All_Pro_Bills

[B-Man]

 

 

Trump and Zelensky Meet and Remind the World What Leadership Looks Like

Susie Moore

 

 

Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky has spent his week in the United States, touring a munitions plant in Pennsylvania, addressing the U.N., meeting with members of Congress, meeting with President Joe Biden and Vice President Kamala Harris. As announced late Thursday afternoon, Zelensky also took the opportunity while in New York to meet with former President and GOP nominee Donald Trump at Trump Tower. 

 

During the preliminary remarks, Trump praised Zelensky for not "playing cute" during his first impeachment (over their phone call), noting that Zelensky, when asked about it, said, "President Trump did absolutely nothing wrong." 

 

{snip}

 

The two then held a closed-door meeting, after which they again addressed the media.

 

The clip above picks up in the middle of Zelensky's comments, but he says something here that seems highly appropriate — and perhaps, is a nod to Trump's running mate, Ohio Sen. JD Vance, who suggested Zelensky should be thanking the American people in response to his pointed criticism of Vance earlier in the week. Note also what Trump has to say about learning a lot. 

 

Notice Zelensky's body language before and after the meeting. Before, he looked tense, anxious. After, he looked much more relaxed. Why exactly that is, it's hard to say, but my sense is that it's a good thing. We'll see. 

 

https://redstate.com/smoosieq/2024/09/27/trump-and-zelensky-meet-and-remind-the-world-what-leadership-looks-like-n2179849

 

 

 

 

 

[B-Man]

 

 

7 minutes ago, Starr-Bills said:

So what you are saying is that Zelensky can play Trump like a fiddle by sucking up to him. You mean that he will stuff his ego so that he can get what his people need. Yea Zelenskyy is a real leader.

 

Reminder:  Whenever a poor poster says "so what you are saying"  it is is 180 degrees out of whack.  Same here.

 

 

 

 

Meanwhile Contrast This

 

Zelenskyy Appeared Ready to Take Questions With Kamala, Then Harris Bolted FAST

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Starr-Bills]

24 minutes ago, B-Man said:

Reminder:  Whenever a poor poster says "so what you are saying"  it is is 180 degrees out of whack.  Same here.

Is this another of your stupid “iron laws”. What a tool.

[All_Pro_Bills]

20 minutes ago, B-Man said:

 

 

 

Reminder:  Whenever a poor poster says "so what you are saying"  it is is 180 degrees out of whack.  Same here.

 

 

 

 

Meanwhile Contrast This

 

Zelenskyy Appeared Ready to Take Questions With Kamala, Then Harris Bolted FAST

 

 

 

 

 

 

Look out Kamala. Putin is right behind you! "

 

To hell with that" she said. "I'm more worried about having to answer policy questions from the White House press corps that's right behind him! I keep yelling "a future unencumbered by the past" and "I was raised in a middle class family" but they're still chasing me. Where's my show director, yell cut, cut, cut.. 

[wnyguy]

1 hour ago, B-Man said:

 

 

Trump and Zelensky Meet and Remind the World What Leadership Looks Like

Susie Moore

 

 

Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky has spent his week in the United States, touring a munitions plant in Pennsylvania, addressing the U.N., meeting with members of Congress, meeting with President Joe Biden and Vice President Kamala Harris. As announced late Thursday afternoon, Zelensky also took the opportunity while in New York to meet with former President and GOP nominee Donald Trump at Trump Tower. 

 

During the preliminary remarks, Trump praised Zelensky for not "playing cute" during his first impeachment (over their phone call), noting that Zelensky, when asked about it, said, "President Trump did absolutely nothing wrong." 

 

{snip}

 

The two then held a closed-door meeting, after which they again addressed the media.

 

The clip above picks up in the middle of Zelensky's comments, but he says something here that seems highly appropriate — and perhaps, is a nod to Trump's running mate, Ohio Sen. JD Vance, who suggested Zelensky should be thanking the American people in response to his pointed criticism of Vance earlier in the week. Note also what Trump has to say about learning a lot. 

 

Notice Zelensky's body language before and after the meeting. Before, he looked tense, anxious. After, he looked much more relaxed. Why exactly that is, it's hard to say, but my sense is that it's a good thing. We'll see. 

 

https://redstate.com/smoosieq/2024/09/27/trump-and-zelensky-meet-and-remind-the-world-what-leadership-looks-like-n2179849

 

 

 

 

 

And this is why we vote for Trump!

[L Ron Burgundy]

3 minutes ago, wnyguy said:

And this is why we vote for Trump!

Painfully ignorant. 

[wnyguy]

1 minute ago, L Ron Burgundy said:

Painfully ignorant. 

It's ok, you're young, you'll catch up with the rest of us someday.

[L Ron Burgundy]

3 minutes ago, wnyguy said:

It's ok, you're young, you'll catch up with the rest of us someday.

I hope I don't catch up to dementia but we'll see.  

[AlBUNDY4TDS]

8 minutes ago, L Ron Burgundy said:

I hope I don't catch up to dementia but we'll see.  

By the looks of your posts, you're way ahead of schedule.

[L Ron Burgundy]

8 minutes ago, AlBUNDY4TDS said:

By the looks of your posts, you're way ahead of schedule.

Easy champ.  I may decide to ask you to explain some of the absurd positions you take in this forum.  We all know what happens when I do that.  You know you don't comprehend the talking points you regurgitate and end up looking like a monkey doing long division. 

[AlBUNDY4TDS]

21 minutes ago, L Ron Burgundy said:

Easy champ.  I may decide to ask you to explain some of the absurd positions you take in this forum.  We all know what happens when I do that.  You know you don't comprehend the talking points you regurgitate and end up looking like a monkey doing long division. 

You're a sad man.

[Starr-Bills]

4 minutes ago, AlBUNDY4TDS said:

You're a sad man.

Oh burn.🔥 this is the real content we are all here for. Nice defense. 

[AlBUNDY4TDS]

20 minutes ago, Starr-Bills said:

Oh burn.🔥 this is the real content we are all here for. Nice defense. 

Point out where I'm lying.

[L Ron Burgundy]

29 minutes ago, AlBUNDY4TDS said:

You're a sad man.

You don't think it's sad regurgitating talking points you can't comprehend?  I'm gonna disagree with you there.  Unless you're trying to say it's pathetic.   Then we agree.

[AlBUNDY4TDS]

16 minutes ago, L Ron Burgundy said:

You don't think it's sad regurgitating talking points you can't comprehend?  I'm gonna disagree with you there.  Unless you're trying to say it's pathetic.   Then we agree.

Can't comprehend? Like abortion being terrible? What don't I comprehend moron?

[Tommy Callahan]

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[B-Man]

 

 

 

 

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[B-Man]

 

 

Zelensky Has Overplayed His Hand

Jazz Shaw

 

 

 

For weeks now, we have been told repeatedly that Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenski had a "secret plan for victory" over Russia that he would unveil by the end of the month. That finally happened this week, with Zelensky launching a "charm tour"  across a variety of stops, primarily in the United States, seeking to gain the full support of American leaders (and potential leaders) to achieve his nation's ambitious goals. But what he actually managed to achieve appeared to be more of a crash course in the finer details of divisive American politics while taking a sledgehammer-style approach to a delicate situation that one Ukrainian foreign policy analyst described as being "a big mistake." Zelensky wound up poking his nose into American party politics and making demands that even those most likely to support his requests edged away from carefully. (BBC)

 

So Zelensky's "victory plan" turned out to be essentially nothing more than the same list of demands he's been making all along. If anything, his requirements were even more extreme than his previous speeches seemed to be. They can best be summed up by saying that Zelensky is yet again thumbing his nose at the idea of any sort of negotiated peace deal with Moscow. He was basically telling American leaders, "If you just give me a lot more weapons that are even more powerful than what we've already received, I will not only drive the Russians out of Ukraine but I will defeat Russia itself." Oh, and he would also like an invitation to join NATO.

 

https://hotair.com/jazz-shaw/2024/09/29/zelenskys-has-overplayed-his-hand-n3795157