Pokebball Posted September 12 Share Posted September 12 4 hours ago, Tiberius said: The plan is to give Ukraine the weapons to defend themselves. Putin loses, Ukraine wins. That's the plan When? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Biden is Mentally Fit Posted September 12 Share Posted September 12 34 minutes ago, Starr-Bills said: And we are scared of them why? Are we sure their nukes have been maintains and actually work? Really persuasive argument here. Who wants to find out? good heavens, man 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted September 12 Author Share Posted September 12 34 minutes ago, Pokebball said: When? Who knows Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starr-Bills Posted September 12 Share Posted September 12 25 minutes ago, Biden is Mentally Fit said: Really persuasive argument here. Who wants to find out? good heavens, man This is an insightful watch. Note remember when the war started and tires et al in Russia’s army were failing for lack of maintenance and replacement due to massive corruption? Billions stolen. Why would nukes that will never be used get better treatment when the threat is all you need? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pokebball Posted September 12 Share Posted September 12 32 minutes ago, Tiberius said: Who knows and that's the problem 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scraps Posted September 12 Share Posted September 12 (edited) 18 minutes ago, Pokebball said: and that's the problem Name the war whose end date you predicted while it was ongoing. Edited September 12 by Scraps Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pokebball Posted September 12 Share Posted September 12 2 minutes ago, Scraps said: Name the war whose end date you predicted while it was ongoing. why are you OK with endless war 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scraps Posted September 12 Share Posted September 12 Just now, Pokebball said: why are you OK with endless war I don't know that this war is endless. I'm just pointing out the absurdity of you question. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starr-Bills Posted September 12 Share Posted September 12 5 minutes ago, Pokebball said: why are you OK with endless war That is not at all what he said or implied. Pedantic is not smart. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted September 12 Author Share Posted September 12 33 minutes ago, Pokebball said: and that's the problem No, the problem is Putin is invading a sovereign nation 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
All_Pro_Bills Posted Friday at 05:20 PM Share Posted Friday at 05:20 PM 17 hours ago, Tiberius said: No, the problem is Putin is invading a sovereign nation This is an argument of the pot calling the kettle black. How many soveriegn nations has Washington attacked directly or through proxy in say, the past 25 years? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted Friday at 06:30 PM Author Share Posted Friday at 06:30 PM 1 hour ago, All_Pro_Bills said: This is an argument of the pot calling the kettle black. How many soveriegn nations has Washington attacked directly or through proxy in say, the past 25 years? That's what happens when you are charged with defending world order. Putin was simply trying to crush a free, independent republic. I guess you can't see the difference. You are MAGA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommy Callahan Posted Friday at 06:39 PM Share Posted Friday at 06:39 PM 4 minutes ago, Tiberius said: That's what happens when you are charged with defending world order. Putin was simply trying to crush a free, independent republic. I guess you can't see the difference. You are MAGA our foreign policy has been to put out global fires before they grow to the point, they could create a war that could suck in more countries. IE, nip it in the bud. Eff, the wants and needs of the people of the world. it's about "entities" having governments that can be managed or controlled. We have no issue throwing democracy out of the window if the people vote for someone, we don't like. A republic with so much corruption they couldn't be accepted into NATO. That now is being ran by martial law. I still remember when this all started in 2014, and it was about protecting democracy. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted Friday at 07:03 PM Author Share Posted Friday at 07:03 PM 23 minutes ago, Tommy Callahan said: our foreign policy has been to put out global fires before they grow to the point, they could create a war that could suck in more countries. IE, nip it in the bud. Eff, the wants and needs of the people of the world. it's about "entities" having governments that can be managed or controlled. We have no issue throwing democracy out of the window if the people vote for someone, we don't like. A republic with so much corruption they couldn't be accepted into NATO. That now is being ran by martial law. I still remember when this all started in 2014, and it was about protecting democracy. Ok, you think our government is evil. I get it. That’s why electing a pos like Trump is a good thing in your eyes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
All_Pro_Bills Posted Friday at 07:53 PM Share Posted Friday at 07:53 PM 1 hour ago, Tiberius said: That's what happens when you are charged with defending world order. Putin was simply trying to crush a free, independent republic. I guess you can't see the difference. You are MAGA Ukraine was independent until Victoria Nuland and her State Department staff and the CIA engineered a coup in 2014 that removed the elected President and installed a government hand picked by Washington. 47 minutes ago, Tiberius said: Ok, you think our government is evil. I get it. That’s why electing a pos like Trump is a good thing in your eyes Slightly better than the drooling vegetable and the cackling douche bag. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scraps Posted Friday at 07:56 PM Share Posted Friday at 07:56 PM 1 minute ago, All_Pro_Bills said: Ukraine was independent until Victoria Nuland and her State Department staff and the CIA engineered a coup in 2014 that removed the elected President and installed a government hand picked by Washington. Meh. If that government had the support of the people, it would not have fallen. Don't you find a full scale invasion more odious? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
49er Fan Posted Friday at 08:13 PM Share Posted Friday at 08:13 PM 14 minutes ago, All_Pro_Bills said: Ukraine was independent until Victoria Nuland and her State Department staff and the CIA engineered a coup in 2014 that removed the elected President and installed a government hand picked by Washington. Slightly better than the drooling vegetable and the cackling douche bag. You’re a big Paul Manafort fan, aren’t you 😂 https://foreignpolicy.com/2024/08/04/ukraine-maidan-revolution-russia-coup-myth-yanukovych/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coffeesforclosers Posted Friday at 08:27 PM Share Posted Friday at 08:27 PM 21 hours ago, Pokebball said: why are you OK with endless war Once again, America! World Cop has to keep the peace because, well, because... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coffeesforclosers Posted Friday at 11:50 PM Share Posted Friday at 11:50 PM 3 hours ago, 49er Fan said: You’re a big Paul Manafort fan, aren’t you 😂 https://foreignpolicy.com/2024/08/04/ukraine-maidan-revolution-russia-coup-myth-yanukovych/ The more All Pro posts about her, the more I think Victoria Nuland would make a great Secretary of State. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
L Ron Burgundy Posted Saturday at 12:01 AM Share Posted Saturday at 12:01 AM 4 hours ago, All_Pro_Bills said: Ukraine was independent until Victoria Nuland and her State Department staff and the CIA engineered a coup in 2014 that removed the elected President and installed a government hand picked by Washington. Slightly better than the drooling vegetable and the cackling douche bag. As usual you have ZERO proof. You take something innocuous as the US donated to an opposition party (opposing Putin) to mean we engineered a coup. You literally are a useful idiot for the Russians. It's quite amazing. You may be an eloquent poster but not a self aware one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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