Tiberius Posted September 12 Author Share Posted September 12 22 minutes ago, All_Pro_Bills said: For the sake of argument let's say that is Trump's plan. Now that that's out of the way, what's the Biden or Haris plan for a negotiated peaceful settlement of the conflict? Is there any plan or any intelligent ideas? More importantly something reflecting the realities of the situation? The plan is to give Ukraine the weapons to defend themselves. Putin loses, Ukraine wins. That's the plan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
All_Pro_Bills Posted September 12 Share Posted September 12 5 minutes ago, Tiberius said: The plan is to give Ukraine the weapons to defend themselves. Putin loses, Ukraine wins. That's the plan And when they lose militarily? What? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted September 12 Author Share Posted September 12 1 minute ago, All_Pro_Bills said: And when they lose militarily? What? Then Trump and Putin can have their honeymoon together Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
All_Pro_Bills Posted September 12 Share Posted September 12 6 minutes ago, Tiberius said: Then Trump and Putin can have their honeymoon together So Harris has no plan. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scraps Posted September 12 Share Posted September 12 41 minutes ago, All_Pro_Bills said: For the sake of argument let's say that is Trump's plan. Now that that's out of the way, what's the Biden or Haris plan for a negotiated peaceful settlement of the conflict? Is there any plan or any intelligent ideas? More importantly something reflecting the realities of the situation? Victory. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommy Callahan Posted September 12 Share Posted September 12 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted September 12 Share Posted September 12 1 hour ago, All_Pro_Bills said: For the sake of argument let's say that is Trump's plan. Now that that's out of the way, what's the Biden or Haris plan for a negotiated peaceful settlement of the conflict? Is there any plan or any intelligent ideas? More importantly something reflecting the realities of the situation? What was the plan they rejected last year? 5 minutes ago, Tommy Callahan said: Remember when they said Trump was going to start WWIII? Good times, good times... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coffeesforclosers Posted September 12 Share Posted September 12 WWIII, Russia's victory is inevitable, America World Cop must force everyone to make peace yadda yadda yadda... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
All_Pro_Bills Posted September 12 Share Posted September 12 1 hour ago, Scraps said: Victory. Wishful thinking and slogans are not a plan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted September 12 Share Posted September 12 3 minutes ago, All_Pro_Bills said: Wishful thinking and slogans are not a plan. How about "joy"? 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scraps Posted September 12 Share Posted September 12 45 minutes ago, All_Pro_Bills said: Wishful thinking and slogans are not a plan. And you think there is a reasonable plan as long as Putin isn't interested in peace? The only plan Trump has is to sell the Ukrainians down the river. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommy Callahan Posted September 12 Share Posted September 12 It's crazy seeing the left moph into war mongers with Ukraine While trying to also support the anti Israel faction .. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scraps Posted September 12 Share Posted September 12 1 hour ago, Tommy Callahan said: Putin's given multiple red lines that have been crossed with no repercussions. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommy Callahan Posted September 12 Share Posted September 12 Just now, Scraps said: Putin's given multiple red lines that have been crossed with no repercussions. ??? Every time Ukraine has struck in Russia, Russia has retaliated with hypersonics and attacking Kiev and military training schools. (Where the western trainers could be located) So what were you saying about Putin not responding to escalation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scraps Posted September 12 Share Posted September 12 (edited) 6 minutes ago, Tommy Callahan said: ??? Every time Ukraine has struck in Russia, Russia has retaliated with hypersonics and attacking Kiev and military training schools. (Where the western trainers could be located) So what were you saying about Putin not responding to escalation. He's been doing that without provocation. When has he attacked a NATO country after any of those moves? Edited September 12 by Scraps Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starr-Bills Posted September 12 Share Posted September 12 4 hours ago, All_Pro_Bills said: For the sake of argument let's say that is Trump's plan. Now that that's out of the way, what's the Biden or Haris plan for a negotiated peaceful settlement of the conflict? Is there any plan or any intelligent ideas? More importantly something reflecting the realities of the situation? Restore the 1991 borders. Russia forfeits their $300B as war reparations and Ukraine withdrawals from Kursk, oh and we don’t put Putin in jail. I mean Turkey is calling for the return of Crimea publicly now. the alternative is Putin’s government collapses and Russia is broken up into parts, only a matter of time, Putin has played all his cards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommy Callahan Posted September 12 Share Posted September 12 49 minutes ago, Scraps said: He's been doing that without provocation. When has he attacked a NATO country after any of those moves? Wasn't NATO. Was Ukraine that suffered. Maybe I missed the other red lines. I don't want to see Kiev a parking lot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starr-Bills Posted September 12 Share Posted September 12 2 hours ago, Tommy Callahan said: And we are scared of them why? Are we sure their nukes have been maintains and actually work? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scraps Posted September 12 Share Posted September 12 1 minute ago, Tommy Callahan said: Wasn't NATO. Was Ukraine that suffered. Maybe I missed the other red lines. I don't want to see Kiev a parking lot The statement I took issue with was "Putin gives a warning that the U.S. and Europe will be at war with Russia if Ukraine uses Western style missiles to strike Russia." I don't know what warped logic you are using. It was Putin that attacked the Ukraine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted September 12 Share Posted September 12 1 hour ago, Tommy Callahan said: It's crazy seeing the left moph into war mongers with Ukraine Hunter had a job there... 1 hour ago, Tommy Callahan said: While trying to also support the anti Israel faction .. Bibi's far-right and was friends with Trump at one time... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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