Tommy Callahan Posted September 12 Posted September 12 49 minutes ago, Scraps said: He's been doing that without provocation. When has he attacked a NATO country after any of those moves? Wasn't NATO. Was Ukraine that suffered. Maybe I missed the other red lines. I don't want to see Kiev a parking lot
Scraps Posted September 12 Posted September 12 1 minute ago, Tommy Callahan said: Wasn't NATO. Was Ukraine that suffered. Maybe I missed the other red lines. I don't want to see Kiev a parking lot The statement I took issue with was "Putin gives a warning that the U.S. and Europe will be at war with Russia if Ukraine uses Western style missiles to strike Russia." I don't know what warped logic you are using. It was Putin that attacked the Ukraine.
Doc Posted September 12 Posted September 12 1 hour ago, Tommy Callahan said: It's crazy seeing the left moph into war mongers with Ukraine Hunter had a job there... 1 hour ago, Tommy Callahan said: While trying to also support the anti Israel faction .. Bibi's far-right and was friends with Trump at one time... 1
Pokebball Posted September 12 Posted September 12 4 hours ago, Tiberius said: The plan is to give Ukraine the weapons to defend themselves. Putin loses, Ukraine wins. That's the plan When? 1
Biden is Mentally Fit Posted September 12 Posted September 12 34 minutes ago, Starr-Bills said: And we are scared of them why? Are we sure their nukes have been maintains and actually work? Really persuasive argument here. Who wants to find out? good heavens, man 1
Tiberius Posted September 12 Author Posted September 12 34 minutes ago, Pokebball said: When? Who knows
Pokebball Posted September 12 Posted September 12 32 minutes ago, Tiberius said: Who knows and that's the problem 2
Scraps Posted September 12 Posted September 12 (edited) 18 minutes ago, Pokebball said: and that's the problem Name the war whose end date you predicted while it was ongoing. Edited September 12 by Scraps
Pokebball Posted September 12 Posted September 12 2 minutes ago, Scraps said: Name the war whose end date you predicted while it was ongoing. why are you OK with endless war 1
Scraps Posted September 12 Posted September 12 Just now, Pokebball said: why are you OK with endless war I don't know that this war is endless. I'm just pointing out the absurdity of you question.
Tiberius Posted September 12 Author Posted September 12 33 minutes ago, Pokebball said: and that's the problem No, the problem is Putin is invading a sovereign nation 1 2
All_Pro_Bills Posted September 13 Posted September 13 17 hours ago, Tiberius said: No, the problem is Putin is invading a sovereign nation This is an argument of the pot calling the kettle black. How many soveriegn nations has Washington attacked directly or through proxy in say, the past 25 years? 1
Tiberius Posted September 13 Author Posted September 13 1 hour ago, All_Pro_Bills said: This is an argument of the pot calling the kettle black. How many soveriegn nations has Washington attacked directly or through proxy in say, the past 25 years? That's what happens when you are charged with defending world order. Putin was simply trying to crush a free, independent republic. I guess you can't see the difference. You are MAGA
Tommy Callahan Posted September 13 Posted September 13 4 minutes ago, Tiberius said: That's what happens when you are charged with defending world order. Putin was simply trying to crush a free, independent republic. I guess you can't see the difference. You are MAGA our foreign policy has been to put out global fires before they grow to the point, they could create a war that could suck in more countries. IE, nip it in the bud. Eff, the wants and needs of the people of the world. it's about "entities" having governments that can be managed or controlled. We have no issue throwing democracy out of the window if the people vote for someone, we don't like. A republic with so much corruption they couldn't be accepted into NATO. That now is being ran by martial law. I still remember when this all started in 2014, and it was about protecting democracy. 2
Tiberius Posted September 13 Author Posted September 13 23 minutes ago, Tommy Callahan said: our foreign policy has been to put out global fires before they grow to the point, they could create a war that could suck in more countries. IE, nip it in the bud. Eff, the wants and needs of the people of the world. it's about "entities" having governments that can be managed or controlled. We have no issue throwing democracy out of the window if the people vote for someone, we don't like. A republic with so much corruption they couldn't be accepted into NATO. That now is being ran by martial law. I still remember when this all started in 2014, and it was about protecting democracy. Ok, you think our government is evil. I get it. That’s why electing a pos like Trump is a good thing in your eyes
All_Pro_Bills Posted September 13 Posted September 13 1 hour ago, Tiberius said: That's what happens when you are charged with defending world order. Putin was simply trying to crush a free, independent republic. I guess you can't see the difference. You are MAGA Ukraine was independent until Victoria Nuland and her State Department staff and the CIA engineered a coup in 2014 that removed the elected President and installed a government hand picked by Washington. 47 minutes ago, Tiberius said: Ok, you think our government is evil. I get it. That’s why electing a pos like Trump is a good thing in your eyes Slightly better than the drooling vegetable and the cackling douche bag. 1
Scraps Posted September 13 Posted September 13 1 minute ago, All_Pro_Bills said: Ukraine was independent until Victoria Nuland and her State Department staff and the CIA engineered a coup in 2014 that removed the elected President and installed a government hand picked by Washington. Meh. If that government had the support of the people, it would not have fallen. Don't you find a full scale invasion more odious?
49er Fan Posted September 13 Posted September 13 14 minutes ago, All_Pro_Bills said: Ukraine was independent until Victoria Nuland and her State Department staff and the CIA engineered a coup in 2014 that removed the elected President and installed a government hand picked by Washington. Slightly better than the drooling vegetable and the cackling douche bag. You’re a big Paul Manafort fan, aren’t you 😂 https://foreignpolicy.com/2024/08/04/ukraine-maidan-revolution-russia-coup-myth-yanukovych/
Coffeesforclosers Posted September 13 Posted September 13 21 hours ago, Pokebball said: why are you OK with endless war Once again, America! World Cop has to keep the peace because, well, because...
Coffeesforclosers Posted September 13 Posted September 13 3 hours ago, 49er Fan said: You’re a big Paul Manafort fan, aren’t you 😂 https://foreignpolicy.com/2024/08/04/ukraine-maidan-revolution-russia-coup-myth-yanukovych/ The more All Pro posts about her, the more I think Victoria Nuland would make a great Secretary of State.
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