Tiberius Posted August 25 Author Posted August 25 On 8/23/2024 at 6:10 PM, Coffeesforclosers said: Russian milbloggers are reporting the discovery of Ukrainian troop concentrations in Zaporizhizhya. They think Ukraine is going to make another run at last year's objectives. This would be a Bad Idea if the Surovikin Line defences haven't been reduced, Russian reserves are still intact, and the minefields there remain uncleared. Time will tell. Maybe just Ukraine using their inner lines to move troops around forcing Russia to respond using their collapsing RR infrastructure? Still seeing reports of the Russian rail system in chaos. 1
L Ron Burgundy Posted August 26 Posted August 26 Hearing troubling news that Belarus may attack Ukraine. Could be Putin grasping at anything he can as Ukraine pushes deeper and deeper into Russian land. https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/ukraine-calls-belarus-pull-back-forces-border-2024-08-25/ There's been posturing before, could be the same thing. However, former Wagner troops were sent to Belarus. They'd be the only troops really worth much as Belarus' army would be even worse than Russias. I'm very curious what Poland would do if Belarus attacked Ukraine. Poland has been really worried about Russian aggression and beefed up their army considerably. A strong argument can be made they have the best army in Europe right now. There have been a lot of Belarussian provocation toward Poland, likely something Putin has instigated.
Tommy Callahan Posted August 26 Posted August 26 42 minutes ago, Tiberius said: Do the Ukrainians have any supersonics? Cause that seems to be the Russians MO. Flood the region with drones and dummy bombs to overwhelm the defense systems, then have a supersonic strike the target. But then again, does Russia even have a top line air defense system? like an iron dome or patriot?
All_Pro_Bills Posted August 27 Posted August 27 3 minutes ago, Starr-Bills said: Tell me again about how smart & cool Putin is. Tell me again how great the Russians are. How Ukraine should “make peace with them”. Tell me how this won’t happen here. Monsters they must be stopped and we must do more to support the Ukrainians. https://x.com/ukikaski/status/1828460397910716446?s=61&t=LbJwPMlNfB_T5QWQN7fEJg Sounds like you're ready to volunteer for the front. Are you? 1
sherpa Posted August 27 Posted August 27 On 8/26/2024 at 8:44 AM, Tommy Callahan said: Do the Ukrainians have any supersonics? Cause that seems to be the Russians MO. Flood the region with drones and dummy bombs to overwhelm the defense systems, then have a supersonic strike the target. But then again, does Russia even have a top line air defense system? like an iron dome or patriot? No to the Ukraine supersonic capability. Yes to the Russian air defense system. 1
GMB 8888 Posted August 27 Posted August 27 On 8/25/2024 at 7:49 PM, Tommy Callahan said: do people not understand how AI-assisted images work? Like, the 3mins it takes to fact check this is really not too difficult. But hit share instead I guess…critical thinking is dead. 1 1
Coffeesforclosers Posted August 27 Posted August 27 33 minutes ago, GMB 8888 said: do people not understand how AI-assisted images work? Like, the 3mins it takes to fact check this is really not too difficult. But hit share instead I guess…critical thinking is dead. Welcome to PPP. Where retweeting is critical thinking. Where sharing is critical thinking. And where nobody believes anything from the Lying MSM. But they believe everything they're told to believe about the Lying MSM. 1 1
All_Pro_Bills Posted August 27 Posted August 27 (edited) 43 minutes ago, Coffeesforclosers said: Welcome to PPP. Where retweeting is critical thinking. Where sharing is critical thinking. And where nobody believes anything from the Lying MSM. But they believe everything they're told to believe about the Lying MSM. Not everybody. There are a lot of posters that believe critical thinking means believing in "experts" paid for their views by the powers in charge and never questioning anything the government and the MSM tells them to believe. They are what I might call "drones". Edited August 27 by All_Pro_Bills 3
GaryPinC Posted August 27 Posted August 27 1 hour ago, All_Pro_Bills said: Not everybody. There are a lot of posters that believe critical thinking means believing in "experts" paid for their views by (the powers in charge) (Trump/MAGA) and never questioning anything the (government and the MSM) (right wing Xers and alt right news organizations) tells them to believe. They are what I might call "drones". It's the same on both sides, pick your parentheses. Critical thinking involves being open to all sources and judiciously distilling your most educated guess where the truth lies. Almost always, bits and pieces are in both sides. The problem you have is one side enjoys finger pointing at the other while never turning it on themselves. 1 1 1
Biden is Mentally Fit Posted August 28 Posted August 28 17 hours ago, GaryPinC said: The problem you have is one side enjoys finger pointing at the other while never turning it on themselves. You’ve got me on the edge of my seat. One side? Which one? Thanks in advance. 1
Coffeesforclosers Posted August 28 Posted August 28 45 minutes ago, Biden is Mentally Fit said: You’ve got me on the edge of my seat. One side? Which one? Thanks in advance. Hilarious. He's bashing internet brains on both sides. Is that not ok?
Biden is Mentally Fit Posted August 28 Posted August 28 11 minutes ago, Coffeesforclosers said: Hilarious. He's bashing internet brains on both sides. Is that not ok? Of course it is. It was not entirely clear to me. Thank you for straightening it out.
GaryPinC Posted August 28 Posted August 28 2 hours ago, Biden is Mentally Fit said: You’ve got me on the edge of my seat. One side? Which one? Thanks in advance. Poor choice of words, my apologies. I meant each side.
All_Pro_Bills Posted August 28 Posted August 28 22 hours ago, Starr-Bills said: That’s a weird reaction to a video of a Russian soldier being cruelly tortured by his Russian commander and rescued by the UAF. Is it? All you're helping is Ukrainian troops given a couple days of basic training get killed. 1 1
All_Pro_Bills Posted August 28 Posted August 28 8 minutes ago, Starr-Bills said: Do you have Putin on speed dial? My views have nothing to do with Putin and you know it. But invoking him is a convenient response for posters here that are too invested in some fantasy outcome of this war to look at the situation objectively. I've pointed out time and time again that Ukraine's biggest issue is a shortage of competent troops and fighters. Not the need for more advanced weapons systems. To support the Kirsk operation they had to pull most of their best fighter off the eastern front which has allowed the Russians to advance more quickly. Its a big gamble. I think its a certainty that militarily this operation fails but what other objectives such as political or pulling NATO into the conflict there are I wonder? One thing is certain, in this war of attrition they are running out of soldiers. But any attempt at injecting some objectivity are met with the usual references to Putin. Good luck with that. 1 1
wnyguy Posted August 28 Posted August 28 20 minutes ago, Starr-Bills said: Of note my link was to Russian commanders torturing Russian troops who were being freed by Ukrainian troops. And your response was to question why I support more Ukrainian troops dying. What? Btw this is a FSB talking point, meant to sound reasonable and to distract and divide western support. Objectively Russia invaded Ukraine in 2014. Objectively Russia expanded the invasion in 2022. Objectively Russia is killing Ukrainians, both civilian and military. Objectively it’s weird to me that you want to protect Ukrainian soldiers express no concern about Ukrainian civilians both in the occupied territories and not, who are indiscriminately, murdered, raped, pillage, and bombed by Russia (and don’t forget the children shipped off the Russia to be reeducated). This high and mighty false concern for Ukrainians troops is ridiculous. You want to help Ukraine’ troops (because you don’t seem to care about their civilians) give them more weapons, more training and allow them to strike targets that will end the suffering faster. For example more than 31 M1’s, waiting 2 years for ATCAMS, more Bradly’s, and not delaying the aid artificially for 8 months so Putin could try and over run them. “Arsenal of democracy” and all. it blows my mind how tough guy conservatives want an allied nation to “just lie down and make peace at any cost”. I get questioning the strategy of how the war is prosecuted, there are questions, and Kursk is a gamble, but the math was against them with out shaking it up. Additionally Putin is not interested in peace, he wants Ukraine, he wants to undermine the US (socially and financially) to his own benefit. Talk of peace talks is meant to distract and divide. If the Ukrainians want to fight I say we support them. P.s. I have considered going we’ll see how November works out. Why wait? They need you now man, just keep your head down.
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