Tiberius Posted August 14 Author Posted August 14 https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2024/08/14/ukraine-russia-kursk-incursion-airfields-belgorod/ Published August 14, 2024 at 11:00 a.m. EDT Ukraine’s military mounted its largest drone attack on Russian airfields since the 2022 invasion, targeting four key sites deep inside Russian territory with dozens of drones overnight, as its forces continued their advance in the Kursk region of southern Russia. After rushing reinforcements to Kursk and announcing a “counterterrorism” operation led by top commanders, Russian forces have failed to halt the nine-day incursion, despite daily announcements from military officials that Ukrainian forces had been stopped. A Ukrainian intelligence official said that Kyiv attacked an air base in Savasleyka, more than 400 miles from the Ukrainian border, near Nizhny Novgorod. The base houses MiG-31 warplanes that launch Kinzhal missiles, among Russia’s most advanced weapons. About 10 explosions were reported at the base, according to Russian independent media, quoting locals. Air raid alerts sound in Kyiv and across Ukraine — sometimes numerous times in one day — each time an MiG-31 takes off, as Kinzhal missiles have the capability of striking locations throughout the country. “We are waiting for satellite photos with destroyed Russian fighters and warehouses,” the official said, speaking on the condition of anonymity because of the sensitivity of the subject. Nizhny Novgorod governor Gleb Nikitin said on the social media site Telegram that Russian air defenses were working to suppress the attack and “minimize the consequences.” He said no casualties had been reported. Video aired on Russian Telegram channels showed a distant fiery blast, followed by the sound of a large explosion. Another showed a drone flying overhead. Ukraine has had success destroying Russian warplanes with drone attacks on airfields deep inside Russian territory, but is barred by its Western partners from using Western weapons, such as long-range missiles, to do so. In addition to Savasleyka, the official said there were attacks on airfields in Voronezh, Borisoglebsk and Kursk, targeting bases for warplanes that fire the heavy glide bombs, locally known as KABs, that have devastated Ukrainian defenses over the past year.
Tommy Callahan Posted August 14 Posted August 14 Ukraine said they are not holding the territory. Probably good as if they go to far the supply line gets hard to maintain.
The Frankish Reich Posted August 15 Posted August 15 Just now, ChiGoose said: It's a dangerous gambit, but Ukraine didn't see any other good options to change the momentum. At a minimum they've now got a lot of Russians to use for a POW exchange.
Tommy Callahan Posted August 15 Posted August 15 (edited) 25 minutes ago, Tiberius said: Gotta pound those Russian airfields into dust! Military or civilian air fields Edited August 15 by Tommy Callahan
Doc Posted August 15 Posted August 15 So anyone still think Russia has the ability to invade a NATO country? Didn't think so.
Orlando Buffalo Posted August 15 Posted August 15 If Kursk is the push that Russia needs in order to negotiate a peace deal, then I am happy with the result, if this is Ukraine starting a larger assault, then they have lost their minds.
sherpa Posted August 15 Posted August 15 11 minutes ago, Doc said: So anyone still think Russia has the ability to invade a NATO country? Didn't think so. That argument was preposterous from day three of their invasion when they got stranded on that highway. That parade of Russian military equipment could have been completely wiped out in 30 minutes by any competent air strike using four attack armed airplanes. The threat of invading a NATO country has been used to justify support, but it is not valid. In my view, the reason to support Ukraine is justified by other arguments. I'm always hopeful, but being invaded and occupied by an enemy is dirt in Putin's eye. Eventually, the Russians will see this and get rid of him, so there is no current path to that. 1 1
ChiGoose Posted August 15 Posted August 15 1 hour ago, The Frankish Reich said: It's a dangerous gambit, but Ukraine didn't see any other good options to change the momentum. At a minimum they've now got a lot of Russians to use for a POW exchange. Agreed. I don’t expect they will hold the territory for long, but it’s shaken up that status quo a bit and provided a morale boost for the good guys. 1
Coffeesforclosers Posted August 15 Posted August 15 I really enjoy how insidious Russian propaganda is. They do a fantastic job of projecting a detailed discussion and debate. You almost forget that the whole thing is kabuki because none of this show would be permitted unless it served state purposes. The job they do steelmanning the Ukrainian position so they can prime the viewing public for greater sacrifices... it's very slick, definitely showing the accumulated experience of 100ish years of authoritarian rule. Just top notch theatre here
L Ron Burgundy Posted August 16 Posted August 16 20 minutes ago, Starr-Bills said: No comment required Putin did this to his own people. It's been like this the whole time. Team pro Russia chooses to ignore the thousands of videos showing Russian atrocities. There was a castration video a year ago. Worst thing I've ever seen. Stupid me didn't think it was real. 3
Tommy Callahan Posted August 16 Posted August 16 Let's hope Ukraine isn't getting cocky and walking into a trap like Wagner did when it marched to Moscow.
Doc Posted August 17 Posted August 17 57 minutes ago, Tommy Callahan said: So is he saying he didn't actually authorize it? 1
Tiberius Posted August 18 Author Posted August 18 Ever hear of Southern Tier Brewery? Well, it is located in the General George Stoneman industrial park near Jamestown. Stoneman was a Union army general who was a failure, as far as I know. Following the disastrous Battle of Fredericksburg in Dec 1862 the Confederate army, which easily won that really sad battle, was in bad shape. Their only supply line was a RR stretching back to Richmond. Stoneman's job at the next battle of Chancellorsville was to take out that RR line. It might literally have won the war. The confederate army was starving, their horses and mules could barely move their equipment. Stoneman was to take 10,000 union troopers--that had just been reorganized, this was before they had earned their laurels at the heroic Brandy Station Battle--and cut that damn RR. But he never did. He just rode out and disappeared! Then the Battle of Chancellorsville happened 🥲 There is a guy on twitter hammer this point home now about the Russian army. The main army--hundreds of thousands of men--are down south, and badly supplied. Now Ukraine has shifted the battle back to the north and the Russian army is like a beached whale in the south. They are still attacking down there, which is no surprise because what else can they do? To move the army north might just not be possible on the failing Russia rail system. I'm just throwing this out there, but Russia might be in serious crisis now unable to really move their tired army to where it needs to go. If that was the purpose of this Ukrainian offensive, to use the interior lines of defense to change where the war is being fought, then bravo! The Russians were having trouble just supplying an army in one place, and for them to move that army, and supply it might just be too much. And what if they do and Ukraine simply retreats? Ukraine has made Russia waste its time and energy moving for nothing. This guy:
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