ChiGoose Posted June 11 Posted June 11 5 hours ago, Big Blitz said: We have more video from Fallujah circa 2007 then we do in Ukraine 2024. This obviously false belief is only possible due to a combination of poor US media, people encasing themselves in media bubbles that just cater to their own emotions, and simply not wanting to see it. Thankfully, I have recently discovered a super helpful tool to find videos of the war in Ukraine. I'll post just a sample here, but a heads up to everyone, some of these are decidedly NSFW. It's war and it's brutal. Ukraine troops raid Russian trenches POV Trench warfare near Chasiv Yar Drone footage of Russian troop movement Sky News Report on the challenges facing Ukrainian soldiers during Russian advance Russians ambushing Kharkiv M2A2 Bradley in Donetsk Ukrainian drone hits building with Russian soldiers Russian soldiers film themselves stealing a Ukrainian fridge AP: Drone footage shows Ukrainian village battered to ruins as residents flee Russian advance CNN: Ukrainian soldiers drop explosive payload into Russia with night drone War in Vovchansk Ukrainian forces engaging Russian troops in Kharkiv BBC: Inside Ukraine's war frontlines against Russia in Donbas Ukraine drone attack on Russian military airfield 1 1
ChiGoose Posted June 11 Posted June 11 8 minutes ago, Doc said: Terrible. Because he wasn't committed enough and didn't try and take Putin out. So you know better than everyone around Putin and you could convince people whose lives depend on him to kill him? You should sign up for the CIA because I’m sure they could use someone of your immeasurable talents. 3
Doc Posted June 11 Posted June 11 5 minutes ago, ChiGoose said: So you know better than everyone around Putin and you could convince people whose lives depend on him to kill him? You should sign up for the CIA because I’m sure they could use someone of your immeasurable talents. And you know better than anyone that Putin will invade a NATO country? Looks like I'm not the only one who should sign up for the CIA... 1 1
ChiGoose Posted June 11 Posted June 11 1 minute ago, Doc said: And you know better than anyone that Putin will invade a NATO country? Looks like I'm not the only one who should sign up for the CIA... I have no special knowledge of Putin’s goals, just what is publicly available. Which includes invading NATO countries because he believes most Americans are like you and will fold, allowing him to take what he can without existential repercussions.
Big Blitz Posted June 11 Posted June 11 23 minutes ago, ChiGoose said: This obviously false belief is only possible due to a combination of poor US media, people encasing themselves in media bubbles that just cater to their own emotions, and simply not wanting to see it. Thankfully, I have recently discovered a super helpful tool to find videos of the war in Ukraine. I'll post just a sample here, but a heads up to everyone, some of these are decidedly NSFW. It's war and it's brutal. Ukraine troops raid Russian trenches POV Trench warfare near Chasiv Yar Drone footage of Russian troop movement Sky News Report on the challenges facing Ukrainian soldiers during Russian advance Russians ambushing Kharkiv M2A2 Bradley in Donetsk Ukrainian drone hits building with Russian soldiers Russian soldiers film themselves stealing a Ukrainian fridge AP: Drone footage shows Ukrainian village battered to ruins as residents flee Russian advance CNN: Ukrainian soldiers drop explosive payload into Russia with night drone War in Vovchansk Ukrainian forces engaging Russian troops in Kharkiv BBC: Inside Ukraine's war frontlines against Russia in Donbas Ukraine drone attack on Russian military airfield Sources: @Dan_Dads_Army @u_me_reality @tweetforAnna @Feher_Junior These are staples of disinformation the White House tells us to watch out for.
ChiGoose Posted June 11 Posted June 11 5 minutes ago, Big Blitz said: Sources: @Dan_Dads_Army @u_me_reality @tweetforAnna @Feher_Junior These are staples of disinformation the White House tells us to watch out for. You somehow managed to miss Sky, CNN, and others. Look, it’s fine to just admit that you don’t want to know anything about the war. Just don’t pretend that means it isn’t happening.
Big Blitz Posted June 11 Posted June 11 1 minute ago, ChiGoose said: You somehow managed to miss Sky, CNN, and others. Look, it’s fine to just admit that you don’t want to know anything about the war. Just don’t pretend that means it isn’t happening. Oh no. I read those articles. Lol.
ChiGoose Posted June 11 Posted June 11 1 minute ago, Big Blitz said: Oh no. I read those articles. Lol. Ah, so you’ve read articles that include videos of the war, you’ve seen videos of the war and yet your surprised there’s no videos of the war. And you expect anyone to take you seriously? 1
Big Blitz Posted June 11 Posted June 11 Just now, ChiGoose said: Ah, so you’ve read articles that include videos of the war, you’ve seen videos of the war and yet your surprised there’s no videos of the war. And you expect anyone to take you seriously? I’m kidding - where are the actual news sources!? Reddit. Ukraine propaganda videos all edited up and look produced by the same guy that did the Reich Trump ad.
ChiGoose Posted June 11 Posted June 11 3 minutes ago, Big Blitz said: I’m kidding - where are the actual news sources!? Reddit. Ukraine propaganda videos all edited up and look produced by the same guy that did the Reich Trump ad. Do you believe all of the videos are fake? They are CGI or on a soundstage?
Big Blitz Posted June 11 Posted June 11 15 minutes ago, ChiGoose said: Do you believe all of the videos are fake? They are CGI or on a soundstage? “The Ukrainian village of Ocheretyne has been battered by fighting, drone footage obtained overnight by The Associated Press shows. The village has been a target for Russian forces in the Donetsk region of eastern Ukraine.” By who? They don’t have their own people on the ground? Where is the Western Media that relentlessly covered every freaking second of the U.S. in Iraq? We had daily casualty counts - daily. Why? Well we know why. No one has any idea what exactly has happened in this third world dumpster fire.
ChiGoose Posted June 11 Posted June 11 2 minutes ago, Big Blitz said: “The Ukrainian village of Ocheretyne has been battered by fighting, drone footage obtained overnight by The Associated Press shows. The village has been a target for Russian forces in the Donetsk region of eastern Ukraine.” By who? They don’t have their own people on the ground? Where is the Western Media that relentlessly covered every freaking second of the U.S. in Iraq? We had daily casualty counts - daily. Why? Well we know why. No one has any idea what exactly has happened in this third world dumpster fire. Just keep moving those goalposts to show your whole a$$ to everyone. You’ve gone from claiming there aren’t many videos of the war in Ukraine to claiming footage from the AP doesn’t count. Nobody who isn’t already drinking the Kool Aid is gonna buy your shtick.
Big Blitz Posted June 11 Posted June 11 Just now, ChiGoose said: Just keep moving those goalposts to show your whole a$$ to everyone. You’ve gone from claiming there aren’t many videos of the war in Ukraine to claiming footage from the AP doesn’t count. Nobody who isn’t already drinking the Kool Aid is gonna buy your shtick. They got drone footage of a village in ruins with no humans around from an unknown source. I’ve said all along - everything you think you know about this b.s. is a lie. But you keep believing the same people that relentlessly questioned Iraq but now - nothing. Either Russia took over almost immediately or America is using Ukraine as a proxy army to fight Russia or we are legit getting ready to start WWIII because the global economy is on the brink. Because explain this:
Doc Posted June 11 Posted June 11 18 hours ago, ChiGoose said: I have no special knowledge of Putin’s goals, just what is publicly available. Which includes invading NATO countries because he believes most Americans are like you and will fold, allowing him to take what he can without existential repercussions. Link? 1
L Ron Burgundy Posted June 11 Posted June 11 16 hours ago, Big Blitz said: They got drone footage of a village in ruins with no humans around from an unknown source. I’ve said all along - everything you think you know about this b.s. is a lie. But you keep believing the same people that relentlessly questioned Iraq but now - nothing. Either Russia took over almost immediately or America is using Ukraine as a proxy army to fight Russia or we are legit getting ready to start WWIII because the global economy is on the brink. Because explain this: You should seek help. Thinking lies are being told is fine. Russia took over immediately?? That's insane. You not realizing that's insane, also insane. I used to joke covid broke you but that shoe is starting to fit. 1
B-Man Posted June 11 Posted June 11 Gee Libs, what's the name for that type of belief ? Oh yeah. . . . . . . . Fascism. How on brand for the Ukraine. . 1
Big Blitz Posted June 12 Posted June 12 (edited) Let’s …… GOOOOO!!!!!! CNN's Matthew Chance reports on ships that the Russian defense ministry describes as a "strike group," including a nuclear-powered submarine armed with modern “Caliber” cruise missiles, that is headed to Cuba for an official visit. https://www.cnn.com/2024/06/11/world/video/russia-ships-cuba-chance-ebof-digvid Edited June 12 by Big Blitz
All_Pro_Bills Posted June 12 Posted June 12 (edited) On 6/10/2024 at 10:06 PM, ChiGoose said: I have no special knowledge of Putin’s goals, just what is publicly available. Which includes invading NATO countries because he believes most Americans are like you and will fold, allowing him to take what he can without existential repercussions. If only I, or other citizens for that matter, had such influence over what our government does and doesn't do. While I'm entitled to my opinion and freely express it, I hold no illusions that my elected representatives sent to Washington care one bit about my views or positions on topics such as the war in Ukraine. One needs only look at the recent votes on aid to Israel and Ukraine and the pass Congress took on more funds for US border enforcement for a clue. Their agenda isn't driven by as grassroots movement on any point in the political spectrum. I would propose we end all foreign aid and give US taxpayers a 50% tax cut? I'm sure that would be immensely popular with the voters but the global interests running Washington and directing the voting choices of our Senators and Representatives would have none of that nonsense. My problem with supporting this proxy war is the architects and supporters of this effort are vastly underestimating the risk of one of several potential very bad outcomes while focusing on the one outcome that I view as impossible at the moment. A Ukrainian victory with a return to pre-war borders. I also believe the idea Russia is intent on invading western Europe for the re-establishment of Soviet era maps is pure delusion. Russia's economy simply does not produce enough capital and resources to carry out such an effort and from a military standpoint they would stand little to no chance of success. Everybody in the know, knows this but they prefer to peddle this bit of dis-information to keep the money flowing their way. Edited June 12 by All_Pro_Bills 2
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