Coffeesforclosers Posted April 21 Posted April 21 (edited) 2 hours ago, aristocrat said: the same way it seems to be going right now. it's been two years and no end in sight. ukraine has had about 400k casualties from the war in two years. look, we all agree russia shouldn't have invaded them but they did. now you have to make a choice of what's best for the future of ukraine. do you negoitate a peace deal where russia keeps part of ukraine so the rebuilding of the country can begin? or just keep throwing good money into the country and 2-5 years from now they lose most of their population who are of age to work and have families and so on? it would be a cool story if ukraine managed to beat russia but reality is starting to hit home and it seems the odds of that are getting slimmer by the month. we thought taking the oligarchs money would work, we thought putin was dying, we thought the people of russia would revolt, russia would run out of money etc. none of which has worked. it's just an endless war at this point. If Ukraine loses, it will be because somehow Ukraine was outproduced, even though it's supported by a block comprising about 50% of the human race's total economic production. If Ukraine loses, it will be because we and our allies are exactly as weak as BRICS and the rest of the Russo-Chinese block think we are. I don't want the bad old days to come back, and our grandfathers didn't rebuild the world for our benefit for us to piss it all away. Edited April 21 by Coffeesforclosers 2
aristocrat Posted April 22 Posted April 22 21 minutes ago, Coffeesforclosers said: If Ukraine loses, it will be because somehow Ukraine was outproduced, even though it's supported by a block comprising about 50% of the human race's total economic production. If Ukraine loses, it will be because we and our allies are exactly as weak as BRICS and the rest of the Russo-Chinese block think we are. I don't want the bad old days to come back, and our grandfathers didn't rebuild the world for our benefit for us to piss it all away. ukraine may lose because they run out of military aged soldiers. then you run the risk of no available people to breed. roughly 25 percent of the population is between 18-59. thats about 11 million people or so. they've lost 400k to casualties. russias population is 150 mil or so. at a certain point they literally will run out of people to fight and then the country will have population decline. unless you want american troops headed over there. at a certain point you have to face the reality of the situation.
BillStime Posted April 22 Posted April 22 5 hours ago, BillsFanNC said: The commies of PPP of course take mo issue with representatives proudly waving foreign flags in Congress. Despicable commie traitors. Every accusation is a confession - you freaks never think. GTFOH w your faux tears little Vlad. 1 1
TH3 Posted April 22 Posted April 22 3 hours ago, B-Man said: Well, since the Ukraine was one of the members of the USSR for 40 years, I would expect there to be no big change. Especially to US citizens. BUT, keep trying to whip up the war. You are in the minority. . What a doofus…..No wonder you stick to posting links….your takes are actually worse 1 1
Tommy Callahan Posted April 23 Posted April 23 @Tiberius This the kind of democracy you support? https://twitter.com/ImMeme0/status/1782795354062074079?t=qyIDYAlbR0pIMnjDFfCzag&s=19 Send these to Ukraine. 1
Doc Posted April 23 Posted April 23 9 hours ago, Tiberius said: It's the least they can do, considering we're funding their yachts...
Tiberius Posted April 25 Author Posted April 25 https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2024/04/23/ukraine-aid-biden-congress-russia/ The potential game changers in the conflict are the newly arriving ATACM-300 long-range missiles. These precision weapons will allow Ukraine to strike deep into Russian-occupied territory in Crimea, Donbas and coastal regions — hitting Russian airfields, supply depots, staging areas and command-and-control centers within Ukraine. The ATACMS “will degrade Russian logistics inside Ukraine in the near term,” a senior administration official said on Tuesday. “In the longer term, Russia will have to reconsider its strategy.” That might eventually open the way for a just negotiated peace. Russian analysts recognize they’ve lost momentum. With the new American aid, “some increase in Ukraine’s defensive potential is possible, and offensive as well,” according to Dmitry Stefanovich, a researcher for a think tank associated with the Russian Academy of Sciences. He added that on a “symbolic” level, the U.S. aid “will clearly raise the morale of the Ukrainian armed forces.” Vasily Kashin, another analyst in Moscow, warned of new military pressure on Russia. “Ukraine will have additional high-precision weapons that it will use against our troops and our territory.” He added that new air-defense weapons for Ukraine “will again limit the use of Russian aviation,” which in recent weeks had been striking power plants and other targets in Ukraine almost at will.
Tiberius Posted April 25 Author Posted April 25 Oh, MAGA is worried that Trump will lose access to lots of money if the murderous Kremlin has its funds confiscated
All_Pro_Bills Posted April 25 Posted April 25 (edited) 2 hours ago, Tiberius said: Oh, MAGA is worried that Trump will lose access to lots of money if the murderous Kremlin has its funds confiscated Its sounds like a great idea but there are real consequences to Americans rarely discussed or understood. Seizing and freezing foreign assets held at US commercial banks or the Fed have resulted in asset transfers out of US custody and into gold and other currencies held outside the US banking system. This will accelerate the process of replacing the current standard with another standard such as SDRs or a return to some form of gold backing. While people want to believe that military might is what keeps the US in control its actually the reserve and trade settlement status of the dollar that facilitates it all. Lose that and the consequences of borrowing and spending lots of money you don't have become immediate. No more passing $90B borrow and spend bills to feather the nests of defense contractors and suppliers. All this mostly plays into the hands of one country, China. Edited April 25 by All_Pro_Bills 1
Tiberius Posted April 25 Author Posted April 25 34 minutes ago, All_Pro_Bills said: Its sounds like a great idea but there are real consequences to Americans rarely discussed or understood. Seizing and freezing foreign assets held at US commercial banks or the Fed have resulted in asset transfers out of US custody and into gold and other currencies held outside the US banking system. This will accelerate the process of replacing the current standard with another standard such as SDRs or a return to some form of gold backing. While people want to believe that military might is what keeps the US in control its actually the reserve and trade settlement status of the dollar that facilitates it all. Lose that and the consequences of borrowing and spending lots of money you don't have become immediate. No more passing $90B borrow and spend bills to feather the nests of defense contractors and suppliers. All this mostly plays into the hands of one country, China. Ya, I'm sure we are doomed if we take Putin's money
aristocrat Posted April 26 Posted April 26 https://www.telegraph.co.uk/world-news/2024/04/25/poland-deport-ukraine-conscription-russia-war/ Ukraine running out of troops. Who could have seen this coming?
All_Pro_Bills Posted April 26 Posted April 26 11 hours ago, aristocrat said: https://www.telegraph.co.uk/world-news/2024/04/25/poland-deport-ukraine-conscription-russia-war/ Ukraine running out of troops. Who could have seen this coming? As the casualty numbers they provide are vastly under-reported only those believing them are surprised. The war, while very popular with flag waving members of the United States Congress and the defense industry, is currently not so popular with Ukrainians citizens. In order to muster up enough troops aged 18 to 59, the government kidnapping them off the street or forcing them to return from overseas to man the front lines. Its estimating around 1 million Ukrainians have left the country for Poland and Zelensky wants those men of fighting age back for manning the front where life expectancy is measured in days or hours. But its all good because Putin is evil and there is no sacrifice the cheerleaders safely away from the front can expect from other people that is too big to defeat him!
Tiberius Posted April 26 Author Posted April 26 Russia obviously watching the IIDF operate in Gaza now threatening hospitals in Kyiv
Tiberius Posted April 28 Author Posted April 28 Vance will be seriously pushed onto Trump, just like Manafort was 1 1
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